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Recent political stuff:
- The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
- Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
- The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.
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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM
You're assuming that there aren't a great deal of wrongheaded types running around, then. It wasn't till 2009 that Gurkhas received a right to settle in the UK, after a Falklands War veteran was denied access to the UK for life-saving medical treatment, because he didn't have "strong enough ties to the UK." You know, because having your back blown apart by artillery in defense of British soil isn't a strong tie to the United Kingdom.
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Naturally, there are a lot of accusations by Malaysian netizens that Cameron is meddling in Malaysia's affairs. Can't have happened to a nicer person, in my opinion.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
For those describing Corbyn's anti-NATO stance as being about isolationism, from what I've seen of him, 'isolationist' is the wrong word to use. An isolationist withdraws from the world, Corbyn is arguing that foreign policy should focus on identifying and addressing the causes of problems - health, education, poverty, etc. - and that NATO is essentially fuel being thrown on an already raging fire.
His stance has recently been described as a 'non-interventionist foreign policy', but when NATO was hosted last year in Newport, Corbyn wrote an article on his thoughts about NATO, which might (or might not) shed some light on his stance.
I don't think he's actually said he would take the UK out of NATO, but he's definitely been very clear on the fact he'd prefer to be out of NATO than in it... and everyone's interpreting that as him taking the UK out of NATO if he was ever PM. May be he does mean that, but I think that's mostly everyone else's interpretation right now. For now, he seems to be using his anti-NATO stance to generate discussion on what NATO's purpose should be and what the best kind of foreign policy should be.
edited 31st Jul '15 3:46:13 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Abroad...
David Cameron promises to protect wildlife after Cecil the lion killing
At home...
Environmental groups call on PM's intervention as 10 green policies scrapped
Hooray for sound-bite politics.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Shameful Display
For about six months.
edited 2nd Aug '15 10:28:39 AM by Deadbeatloser22
"Yup. That tasted purple."
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Ironically enough, that appears to be blocked in the UK.
Of course, if it's about Elizabeth II's dear old uncle Edward, that's not exactly news.
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So...
...Corbyn:
Jeremy Corbyn tops Labour constituency vote in leadership bid
Mr Corbyn also has the backing of the UK's two largest trade unions.
All registered Labour Party supporters and affiliated supporters who join before midday on the 12 August can vote in the contest. Voting will begin on 14 August.
CWU backs Jeremy Corbyn 'to oust Blairites'
Another candidate, Liz Kendall, said Mr Ward's reference to a "virus" was offensive and that what was needed was "an antidote to the Tories".
The Transport Salaried Staffs Association also nominated Mr Corbyn, who is already backed by the UK's two largest unions, Unite and Unison.
BBC assistant political editor Norman Smith said the latest union endorsements meant "the momentum is going further and further behind Jeremy Corbyn". He said Mr Ward's language was perhaps even more significant, adding: "If that is what the future holds for Labour, you sense that it could be heading remorselessly towards another bout of civil war and blood-letting." The CWU has just under 200,000 members.
Mr Ward said: "We reject the notion that Labour needs to move to the centre ground of British politics. "The centre ground has moved significantly to the right in recent years."
Shameful Display
Does anyone else find the photo of him teaching Lizie the Nazi salute darkly humorous, if only because of the classic stereotype of the bad influence uncle.
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We've discussed that photo to death and moved on already.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Kendall's right. We do need an 'antidote' to the Tories.
That rules her out, then.
Edited to add: I found the 'Nazi King' video on Vimeo - which is viewable in the UK. Here's the opening sequence to the video:
Judging by that opening, the video has nothing in it that we haven't already known for years.
edited 2nd Aug '15 2:33:54 PM by Wyldchyld
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Pretty much. To the point where just saying "Nazi King" makes it obvious that you're on about Eddie.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Daily Mail: Immigrants should be forced to starve to death on the streets.
Seriously I'm not being hyperbolic here, if giving immigrants food and £5 a day and no means to acquire any more money (through work or benefits) is a scandal, then they genuinely want these people dead by definition.
It's the Heil. Why are you surprised?
"Yup. That tasted purple."
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Sometimes I just wish people who read Murdoch owned papers were forced to wear dunce caps.
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I'm not surprised. But "If they want to live they shouldn't come here, if they get here then they should be murdered" is extreme even by Heil standards.
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Does the Daily Mail even have standards?
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Blonde hair and blue eyes, perhaps?
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@ Bisected: Murdoch doesn't own the Daily Mail — the Rothermeres do.
Immigration Bill: Landlords 'must evict' failed asylum seekers
The government plans to end financial support for failed asylum seekers. Some 10,000 currently continue to receive a taxpayer-funded allowance of £36 a week, despite their applications having been rejected, because they are living in the UK with their families.
At the weekend, immigration minister James Brokenshire said he wanted to "send out a very clear message to those who seek to exploit the system that Britain is not a soft touch on asylum".
The proposals come as the British and French governments struggle to deal with a migrant crisis in Calais, where large numbers of people are making nightly bids to cross the Channel to reach the UK.
But that's not all:
Mr Clark said the government was targeting people who made money by "exploiting vulnerable people and undermining our immigration system".
"We will also require them to meet their basic responsibilities as landlords, cracking down on those who rent out dangerous, dirty and overcrowded properties."
That is not a bad thing.
edited 2nd Aug '15 11:11:23 PM by Greenmantle
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The first part is ew. It smacks of the whole "self-deport" meme from the US.
A procrastination in of itself
It won't work, you can't kill of the grey/black market for accommodation by arresting people, people go to those landlords because we have no other options. Nobody likes living in those places, but it's that or the street for a lot of people because there simply aren't the houses/flats and the few that do exist are priced well beyond anything anyone can afford.
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What's the difference between the EU and NATO?
One is an undemocratic organisation, unanswerable to the people, which costs Britain billions every year with nothing coming back, while dictating UK policy. And the other is the EU.
Isn't Trident Dual Key - we can't fire without the US approval?
A procrastination in of itself
Please we don't even need the P Ms approval, the sub captains could fire on their own.
Technically a nuclear strike had to be played by both the PM and the Queen, I've never heard of any US involvement being needed.
Am I the only leftist who likes NATO? What happened to "we achieve together more than we achieve alone"? Isn't that part of the spirit of NATO, that we can come together and work alongside one another to try and help the world (like we did in former Yugoslavia) and also clean up some of the messes we have made over the years.
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I don't have a problem with NATO.
"Yup. That tasted purple."
Ooh, I'd join. Along with some friends.
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