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    Original OP 
(I saw Allan mention the lack of one so I thought I'd make one.)

Recent political stuff:

  • The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
  • Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
  • The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.

A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#5451: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:51:39 AM

[up][up][up] I like the looks of them. I just wish they talked about more issues then just Copyright, Patent, Privacy, and Free Speech...

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:53:00 AM by deathpigeon

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#5452: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:55:01 AM

[up]It's why they need to mature a bit: their manifesto is too narrow to be a goer. But, when it comes to trying to influence politics, going party is a rather useful means (and, also, a lot of slog). So, good on 'em for having the guts to play the hard game. grin

edited 3rd Oct '12 3:55:36 AM by Euodiachloris

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#5453: Oct 3rd 2012 at 3:55:51 AM

Meanwhile, the AA's head of motoring Paul Watters warned that ministers may have to look elsewhere to make up lost tax revenues.

"We've heard talk of the government finding a real struggle in getting the revenues in that it was expecting and this dramatic drop won't help them one iota," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "It will make them a bit desperate, perhaps looking towards road pricing again or looking towards squeezing more out of the tax disc that we all pay for."

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Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#5454: Oct 3rd 2012 at 4:37:40 AM

I am getting more and more tempted to make a serious go of standing for the loonies and encouraging the apathetics to show how little the available parties represent them by voting loony, because if the loony comes third then whichever party landed in fourth place will get a serious telling that they need to start listening to the public again.

Don't laugh, that was the final nail in the SDP's coffin.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#5455: Oct 3rd 2012 at 6:38:44 AM

I live in the safest Labour seat in the country.tongue Strangely enough, down the road is Birmingham Edgbaston, a swing seat, and down the other way, is Birmingham Yardley, a bellweather seat. And up north, is Sutton Coldfield (the home of Mitchell), as we all know, strongly Tory.

/pointless

Anyway, I really do wish we had better parties. The parties are different, but they're different in ways that don't particularly make a difference to anyone who isn't a political anorak.

-sigh-

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#5456: Oct 3rd 2012 at 9:18:58 AM

A lot of the BNP's support comes from being to the left of all the main parties. They really do look out for the rights of workers, so long as those workers are white, christian, heterosexual...

A good rule of thumb is that the BNP are a foreigner-hating Labour and the UKIP are foreigner-hating Conservatives.

And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#5457: Oct 3rd 2012 at 10:18:20 AM

[up]That probably worked better when you could tell Labour and the Conservatives apart.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#5458: Oct 3rd 2012 at 10:34:16 AM

Humiliating climbdown number, I dunno, yonty million for the Con Dem Nation.

http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2012-10-03/north-west-rail-franchise-u-turn-by-government/

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/124629

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19809899

Heheheheh. Civil Servants getting the blame again. Biggest rail franchise sale in recent history and it has been a total balls up.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#5459: Oct 3rd 2012 at 10:37:03 AM

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Although I wouldn't be suprised if both the BNP and UKIP haven't already showed signs of moving towards the Centre in order to appeal to a wider electorate...

edited 3rd Oct '12 11:18:07 AM by Greenmantle

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#5460: Oct 3rd 2012 at 11:12:19 AM

[up]<image of planets colliding goes here> [lol]

CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
#5461: Oct 3rd 2012 at 11:52:37 AM

I'm delighted about the railways, I can't stand First Group (I have to endure First Scotrail) and have always found Virgin better in every way.

My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#5462: Oct 3rd 2012 at 11:54:01 AM

I think the reaction may be much more explosive.

[up]Virgin > Chiltern > First Rail

edited 3rd Oct '12 11:54:28 AM by Inhopelessguy

CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
House Lewis: Sanity is Relative
#5463: Oct 3rd 2012 at 12:46:15 PM

Virgin > Chiltern > Piggybacking on a tramp > First Rail

Fixed that for you.

My name is Addy. Please call me that instead of my username.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#5464: Oct 3rd 2012 at 12:58:01 PM

What bugs me is the sheer cost of the cock up. And, being civil servants, people will manage to dodge head-rolling thanks to procedural shields. tongue

Trust me, the ones who'll get axed? Won't actually be the ones responsible for the major oversights. tongue

PiccoloNo92 Since: Apr, 2010
#5465: Oct 3rd 2012 at 1:15:09 PM

I happen to quite enjoy the First Great Western journey from Swansea to Paddington :/

Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#5466: Oct 3rd 2012 at 1:31:03 PM

The main difference between this government and the last is that the last one would have insisted that they made the right decision and used the cost to justify not revisiting it, forcing us to live with crappy service, whereas this one admits they made a mistake and gets us to pay for it.

Not that either of them are good for much.

Edit: To clarify, the last lot made us suffer for their fuck ups, this lot make us pay to fix their fuck ups.

edited 3rd Oct '12 1:35:43 PM by Michael

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#5467: Oct 3rd 2012 at 1:48:43 PM

@ Hopey, Hopey:

The reality is:

Virgin* > Deutsche Bahn (Chiltern) > First*

...and apparently, even the Experts think it's a systemic problem:

Here is Rooooobert Peston:

There appear to have been two giant errors by the Department for Transport in the way it adjudicated on who should receive the 15 year contract to run the West Coast Main Line.

First it unfairly discriminated against the incumbent, Virgin, by attaching far too great a probability to the projections by the rival bidder First Group that its revenues in the later years of the contract would be much bigger than Virgin's. This mistake was compounded in the department's own internal forecasting model, which also attached too little risk to the possibility that passenger numbers and inflation would be significantly different from what First Group was projecting after 2021.

As a result, the government demanded too little guaranteed money for taxpayers from First Group.

But perhaps all this can be forgiven as an unfortunate technical error. What is perhaps more shocking is that Virgin has been complaining about the flaws in the bidding process for months, and yet the government pressed on with awarding the contract to First Group.

I'm sure we'll find out more from the Rail Magazines in the next week and months.


West Coast fiasco exposes skills gap

edited 4th Oct '12 5:24:25 AM by Greenmantle

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#5469: Oct 4th 2012 at 9:11:27 PM

Good job they found the fucking thing. And that no-one got hurt removing it.

The only questions are what nutjob group planted it and why?

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#5470: Oct 4th 2012 at 11:29:58 PM

[up]And, no phone-in... seems good old intelligence work got there. tongue

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#5471: Oct 5th 2012 at 6:16:56 AM

Proper sleuthing, following black footprints with a magnifying glass.

And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#5472: Oct 5th 2012 at 7:06:29 AM

Seems like Hamza is finally on his bike after all.

TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#5473: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:51:53 AM

I bet his bike only has a handlebar on one side.

edited 5th Oct '12 9:52:06 AM by TheBatPencil

And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#5474: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:14:15 AM

Oh, be nice to his fellow amputees.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#5475: Oct 6th 2012 at 5:35:00 AM

"The 45 M Ps say a deal would hand the bulk of Britain's defence industry to a company which would not safeguard UK interests. EADS is mostly owned by the French and German governments...The Conservative M Ps who have voiced their concerns believe the company would come under political pressure from France and Germany, which have both made it clear they would want significant shareholdings in the merged business"

edited 6th Oct '12 5:35:32 AM by Greenmantle

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