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Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#1: Apr 27th 2011 at 10:53:52 AM

This trope is The Fair Folk. It's a shorter and less polished version of The Fair Folk and I can't see any use in keeping it.

LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Apr 27th 2011 at 2:30:56 PM

I agreed with you after looking at the trope itself, but some people brought up that issue in the original YKTTW and the creator of the trope (Aminatep) disagreed.

Fair Folk is shakesperean elves, this is tolkienian elves.

I can understand why this trope may be more specific while The Fair Folk is very broad, but I admit that I do not quite understand the distinction there. Of course, the trope is fairly new, so maybe I just need to wait for it to get some use.

In its present state, I feel like the trope is "elves, contrary to their nice-looking exterior act cruelly."

edited 27th Apr '11 2:46:27 PM by LouieW

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#3: Apr 27th 2011 at 2:36:05 PM

If you read "The Fair Folk" it says exactly the same thing. Elves are beautiful and skilled and dangerous and haughty and amoral and generally excellent examples of "Light Is Not Good. Until they got Disneyfied into cute little glowing balls of light and kindly old grandmothers. And I have no idea where Aminatep is getting "The Fair Folk is Shakespearean Elves, this is Tolkeinian elves." Tolkein's elves aren't even an example of this new trope. They aren't evil or amoral or heedlessly cruel or deliberately cruel. The fairies in Shakespeare were a hell of a lot closer to what this trope is describing.

I get exactly the same thing as Louie W: "Elves are nasty pieces of work"

edited 27th Apr '11 2:41:37 PM by Madrugada

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#4: Apr 27th 2011 at 2:44:08 PM

Perhaps it should be expanded to include any Superior Species/Always Lawful Good seeming types that turn out to be dicks, which is actually what it seems like. I think the creator just used elves since they're the most common fantasy race to be like that.

edited 27th Apr '11 2:44:38 PM by Ekuran

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#6: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:33:36 PM

So, any objections to adding it to the Cut List?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Apr 29th 2011 at 3:54:17 PM

Not from me.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#8: May 6th 2011 at 6:38:34 AM

Funny title, but this is just The Fair Folk. Cut it.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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mew4ever23 Since: Jan, 2001
#10: May 6th 2011 at 8:13:29 AM

This is just The Fair Folk. You'll hear no objections from me to cut it.

edited 6th May '11 8:14:21 AM by mew4ever23

Aminatep Vulpes Zerda from Glorious Mother Russia Since: Oct, 2009
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#11: May 6th 2011 at 12:17:33 PM

Sorry, but at which point did my trope indicate in any way possible that it is somehow related to fairies?

Because Fair Folk is fairies. Magic fairies. From the English folklore. Very explicitly.

My trope, on the other hand, was "A race that looks Always Lawful Good but isn't"

edited 6th May '11 12:19:11 PM by Aminatep

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DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#12: May 6th 2011 at 12:25:06 PM

[up]It had "elves" in the title. That would lead people to assume it's about elves.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#13: May 6th 2011 at 1:02:31 PM

The Fair Folk is about both elves and "fairies"; it's as much about the Sidhe as it is about brownies or Tinkerbell-esque little winged creature..

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#14: May 6th 2011 at 1:45:43 PM

The laconic says: These fairies(or any fey-like beings) are alien and scary.

Elves Screw You is about a subverted Always Lawful Good race. Perhaps we should just rename it to clear up the confusion.

Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#15: May 6th 2011 at 9:44:00 PM

This is The Fair Folk, we warned the creator in YKTTW, but he launched anyway.

Cut it

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