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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#51: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:42:08 AM

...redistributed...

Good wording, that.

Anyhow, does anyone have info on the Australian commandos that fought in Vietnam? From the description I was given of them, they sounded like pure, distilled awesome badass...

edited 22nd Aug '11 10:43:31 AM by USAF713

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#54: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:45:09 AM

Napoleon trying to retain a hold of Spain. It has so many parallels to later insurgencies it's not even funny:

  • Starts out with some amount of legitimacy (was invited to replace the insane King of Spain)
  • Puts an incompetent guy in charge
  • The incompetent guy ends up with a full-blown insurgency on his hands
  • When Napoleon decided to handle things himself, the other big foreign power (the British) steps in to counter him
  • Created the word "guerrilla"

One of my personal favorites is Julius Caesar's conquest of Gaul. He practically wrote the textbook on how to do "clear, hold, build" correctly.

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#56: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:48:05 AM

Vercingetorix, up to the loss of the granaries at a major Gallic town (I've forgotten the name; began with an A...) pulled off a textbook guerrilla campaign.

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
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#57: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:49:31 AM

[up][up]And just what is your point, exactly? That human lives matters nothing so long as you can accomplish your goals? If that is so, you better hope you actually have the power to back up your words, because someone else might very well do the same thing to YOU.

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#59: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:51:52 AM

Vercingetorix, up to the loss of the granaries at a major Gallic town (I've forgotten the name; began with an A...) pulled off a textbook guerrilla campaign.

For what country and in what war...?

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#60: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:52:44 AM

Against Julius Caesar, the Gallic wars. He was the head of one of the Gallic tribes, I forgot which one. Ended up being the first and only person to get the Gauls to actually work together as a united group.

You don't know this? This is like, Roman history 101.

edited 22nd Aug '11 10:53:22 AM by GameChainsaw

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#61: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:54:29 AM

Bleh... I'm the modern history guy. I know more Roman politics than I do their wars, strangely enough. I know their basic tactics (i.e. the classic shield line), but not their specific campaigns.

I dunno. Roman warfare was never as interesting as their government...

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GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#62: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:55:38 AM

Ah. I'm more interested in military history and my favourite period is the Medieval and ancient eras.

The term "Great Man" is disturbingly interchangeable with "mass murderer" in history books.
USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#63: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:58:26 AM

Yeah, I'm the one to ask for American history. Roman history... well, I don't really know much, to be honest. Never really interested me.

Still, anybody know about the Australian SAS? Badass! [lol]

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#64: Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:59:17 AM

Self-thumped, as troll is gone.

edited 22nd Aug '11 10:59:46 AM by ForlornDreamer

whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#65: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:02:57 AM

USAF: Ofc, they are going to be badass, they are based on the British SAS.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#66: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:09:41 AM

I'm pretty sure the Australian SAS transcends British and American standards of awesome.

When you use your match rations to make an FN-FAL battle rifle fully automatic and are so persistent that the North Vietnamese turn tail and run at the sight of you...

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whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#67: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:11:54 AM

The Australian SAS fought in the Malaya campaign so they have what the Americans badly needed, some jungle fighting experience.

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USAF713 I changed accounts. from the United States Since: Sep, 2010
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#68: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:13:42 AM

Still: full-auto FN-FAL = holy shit, beast!

edited 22nd Aug '11 11:14:06 AM by USAF713

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ForlornDreamer from United States Since: Apr, 2011
#69: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:14:53 AM

The North Vietnamese made use of some pretty unconventional tactics, the likes of which would often make other Guerrilla warriors look like amateurs.

For starters

-Infectious spike-pit traps

-Getting teenagers disguised as South Vietnamese to slip armed grenades into a G.I.'s pockets

-Creating homemade explosives and land-mines from dud bombs we dropped.

-100s of miles of underground tunnels and "death-trap" pitfalls.

edited 22nd Aug '11 11:15:16 AM by ForlornDreamer

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#70: Aug 22nd 2011 at 11:15:49 AM

This isn't really an area of interest for me, but I find the Assassins a particularly interesting case of irregular warfare. If anyone here likes to do reading, then I highly recommend Robert Asprey's War in the Shadows.

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#71: Aug 22nd 2011 at 1:14:10 PM

@ USAF: I've heard that old trick before — the British Army played with that as well. On the subject, the IRA did a few things including a textbook Ambush:

Warrenpoint

Incidentally, one source of the IRA's arms during this period was Libya.

Gadaffi.

edited 22nd Aug '11 1:14:43 PM by Greenmantle

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