Tiger & Bunny

thought of the exact same joke during the ep...oh and betting that Pixiv is gonna have fun altering Kotetsu's photo

Seems that Barnaby is suffering from traumatic memory loss regarding the killer's face. The whole burning house scene kinda reminds me of Ciel's parents death in the anime. And I love how the car gradually disintergrated whilst Fire Emblem and Kotetsu is arguing. Speaking of Fire Emblem...they just had to go with this one stereotype....

edited 8th May '11 2:17:26 AM by momogoldfish

Seems we have our first supervillain too (or maybe a vigilante?). Love the costume, though it was a bit different than what I expected; his mask reminds me a bit of Mayuri Kurotsuchi from Bleach.

edited 8th May '11 7:14:25 AM by rbx5

Pixiv is actually, currently, having fun with Kotetsu and lollipops, there has also been a bit of an increase in Nathan (alone) and Nathan and Kotetsu pics. None of this surprises me. Though, there currently doesn't seem to be any real trend in the content of Tiger and Bunny fanart at the moment.

Anyway, as for Nathan (Fire Emblem), I'm a bit upset that they went with the stereotype, especially after the Winter season's Wandering Son, which did such a good job of exploring gender and gender orientation and the confusion and uncertainty that can come with it, but at the same time I still really love Nathan. I'm also going to reserve full judgement until the show is finished since, for all we know, drastic changes in character development or more insight could be given later on, specifically in the second season. Of course, we'll just have to wait and see.

According to the summaries that have been given for episodes 7-10, Lunatic (the character seen at the end) seems as if he is going to be more of a vigilante (though, considering who he probably is...It isn't entirely out of his jurisdiction). I think it will be very easy though for Lunatic to go from vigilante to super villain.

I don't think Fire hitting on Kotetsu was him really being promiscuous, more like honestly trying to comfort him (he noticed how distraught he was about failing to save a life.) Oh I'm sure he would love to *ahem* him if he got the chance, but overall that sounded more like friendly banter to me. (And you know, for all that I find the Camp Gay part annoying, FE has proven himself caring and courageous so far.)

I hadn't considered that Scary Flame Guy might be a killer vigilante. In fact it would be more interesting if he were, providing an opposite to Kotetsu (and an example for Barnaby to follow? Hmm...)

edited 8th May '11 7:49:00 AM by Sijo

^Yeah, the vigilante angle occurred to me when I realized he was only attacking criminals.

I was more under the impression that the minor criminals we've seen burned were his minions and if they fail him he just gets rid of them.

The episode summaries linked to on the previous page say we're dealing with a Punisher-esque vigilante named Lunatic.

Given that nutjob's babbling in the courthouse this episode, I'm starting to wonder if Ouroboros, whatever it is, controls people through its marks... and possibly grants them superpowers in the process. Certainly, there had to be some sort of explanation for the blue flame that mech fired.

Maybe Lunatic is an Ax-Crazy Phlebotinum Rebel?

Also, I agree with Sijo that Emblem's proposition was mostly just a way to cheer Kotetsu up with some friendly banter. Looked like it helped, too.

edited 8th May '11 8:10:58 PM by Iaculus

I'm currently choosing to believe FE's surface personality is a stage persona, based mostly on the fact the there were a few momently where he seemed to lose it.

He gave implications along those lines in Blue Rose's episode as well, albeit rather obliquely. The implication is that even if he naturally a bit on the camp side even he finds it tiring by always having to be 'on' so to speak.

Well I really hope there will be more instances when he loses all the camp like when he poor car got destroyed.

The vigilante angle sounds interesting...gonna suggest that Barnaby will turn into one, then Tiger manages to stop him from killing an Ouroboros member in the nick of time followed by an epic Tiger vs Bunny battle where Tiger punches heroic ideals into Barnaby.

(cliched I know...but so far the show has taken a pretty predictible route but still remains wonderfully entertaining.)

Hmm, I don't know about that theory. Simply because Barnaby seems to only have a hatred and blood lust for the man that killed his parents. I don't think he really cares about the other members of Ouroboros. He needs them to provide him with information, after all. So yeah, other than that person he really seems to be indifferent about criminals and whether or not they live or die. While he doesn't want Kotetsu's ideals shoved down his throat, as he put, he also doesn't seem particularly fussed over them either.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if Kotetsu does or does not make it in time since, according to the summaries on the LJ community In Episode 10 Kotetsu goes on a paid vacation to see Kaede right when Barnaby goes to prison in order to talk to the person who killed his parents. But it'll also be interesting to see how Kotetsu would react if he found out the reason why Barnaby wanted to go after this man. There are multiple ways this could go, especially since we don't know how Kotetsu's wife died (assuming that she is dead).

And while so far the series has been going along a rather well worn path...It is also by Sunrise. So who knows what the heck is going to happen!

Though, I'm quite certain that Lunatic, the guy that showed up at the end of this episode, is the judge Yuri Petrov. They made that extremely obvious. Plus, there is no death penalty in Sternbild City, so him being a judge, he probably wants to do justice (or what he sees as justice) properly, since he isn't able to do that with his day job.

Speaking of the guy that showed up at the end of this episode, they have his character page up on the official Tiger and Bunny website. His name is Lunatic and he is: "A mysterious NEXT who manipulates blue flames. Since he has a peculiar idea of justice, making killers atone for what they did by their death, he is not compatible with the other heroes." So, while he does seem to be more of a vigilante, he would most definitely be an antagonist to Tiger, since their morals and ideals are so very different. So I guess in that way he would be portrayed more as an enemy than an ally.

edited 14th May '11 11:55:10 AM by LilyGinnyBlack

The newest episode's out on Hulu. Barnaby loses his shit like whoas.

Also, the fact that Yuri is Lunatic is so obvious at this point that I'm almost predicting that it'll actually end up being someone completely different, just to fuck with us.

I agree it seems too obvious. My moneys on Lunatic being the little kid. Would be an funny little twist

edited 14th May '11 4:51:15 PM by Divinekine

I also agree that it is obvious.

In the more subtle department however was some more indications that Kotetsu's wife was killed through some kind of incident (rather than through natural causes). The way Kotetsu talked about understanding Barnaby's feelings and frustrations, the way Nathan thought that Kotetsu would be more understanding/caring, and the way Kotetsu went home afterwards, looked at the picture of him, his wife, https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.pngand Kaede and then got a bit agitated all indicates that she had probably been murdered.

I really like how this show is consistently able to balance humor and drama without either one feeling out of place. That's rather rare.

edited 14th May '11 5:21:36 PM by LilyGinnyBlack

Now THIS is what I'm talking about! We finally have an awesome looking and powerful villain in the mix, with a great high-flying battle to boot. Also, anyone else notice how Yuri's (totally pimp) tie matches the colors of Lunatic's flames? That's the kind of little touches I appreciate. I also want that tie now. Also, "You've got a glove on your face!" XD

edited 14th May '11 5:44:58 PM by rbx5

I'm no longer able to stop myself from yelling "MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEEEEAD" the first time I see Barnaby in an episode.

edited 14th May '11 7:28:02 PM by Bur

Yeah, this episode was very good. Great action and WHOA WITH THE FANSERVICE! I like Blue Rose but I think crotch-shots are bit too much.

-*Spoilers for ep. 7*

I want to see Barnaby and Kotetsu get down to blows eventually (in costume or not) specially with Tiger standing up for his beliefs (before becoming real friends of course.) I mean, I feel sorry for Barnaby, but he's such an ass sometimes! Like, if he'd told Tiger (and the others) about Ouroboros, they might have helped him instead of being in his way. I get he doesn't trust Tiger but Fire Emblem, at least, has resources he could use.

Btw doesn't Bunny have web-sho- I mean grappling lines too? Why didn't he use them to try to catch Lunatic too?

"A glove on your face?" Tiger is this show's Spider-man! Or trying to be.

Again we see Emblem hitting rather hard on Kotetsu. But I still think it's just a form of friendly interplay, ie. he's doing it to annoy him (and Rock Bison.) You don't see hit on Barnaby or other men. So he's not really promiscuous. (Oh and I love the FX on his cape.)

Sheesh, even kids get to kick Tiger and call him names? We get it, he's unlucky and unpopular, move on already!

...Was that oxygen bed thing suspicious to anybody else? Hmm...

I hope the heroes ask themselves the obvious question next, that is "How did Lunatic know about this raid?" Agnes didn't seem THAT surprised...

And yeah, the Judge being Lunatic is TOO obvious, but I'm not sure it's a Red Herring, so far the show has played all its tropes straight, the focus is on the effects on the characters. However I do think he'll be a "third side" in the conflict and not one of the actual villains (which I still believe to be the corporations themselves.)

...and I just realized the big statue in the credits is a Statue of Liberty analog, just as Stern Bilt is an analog to New York city. Was slow on that one.

edited 14th May '11 7:57:30 PM by Sijo

edited 14th May '11 7:53:24 PM by Sparkysharps

I wonder if Blue Rose is ever going to ask for a more protective outfit.

That's beautiful. I cried.

Man, the Judge showing up and posing dramatically, talking about justice, right after a flashback to Lunatic posing dramatically and talking about justice? That's so obvious it's practically a reveal.

Especially since the judge and Lunatic share a voice actor.

The grappling line was one of Wild Tiger's things before he and Bunny became a team, and they were added to his suit because of that. I don't think Bunny has them.

I've been enjoying it so far but I hope that from now onwards the plot becomes tighter. I can only enjoy a decent execution of one partner dynamic cliché so long before it gets stale, and the main idea hasn't been developed as much as it should have so far. Still, it's a terrific time-killer.

x7

Yes! The oxygen tanks screamed evil to me. The whole time I was thinking Kotetsu needed to get the hell out of there.

I was wondering why this didn't happen.