Redirect farming. I was going to say rename but one thing at a time.: Platform Nine And Three Quarters

Platform Nine And Three Quarters is an okay trope, basic idea is a hidden location accessed through eccentric means and usually the newbie doesn't believe it until they see it.

It seems short of examples and I can't think of any, but it seems to exist.

It also doesn't have an index.

But yeah, perhaps one can be Strange Secret Entrance?

I believe this haven't gone through the YKTTW. Since the number of inbounds and wicks is still low, wouldn't be better to cut and take it to there?

PS:Oh, this is also relatively old (August, last year). This need much more work then a simple redirect farming or rename.

edited 30th Mar '11 1:46:48 PM by Heatth

I say we cut it and send it to YKTTW for a better title and such.

Sounds god to me, I usually don't pay attention to the whole inbound thing, I just figured this needed help, but if it's YKTTW-less then we cut away.

There are 10 listed examples, but only 4 wicks (including redirects). We could just list it on the work pages of the listed examples, so it could start catching momentum.

14 wicks, plus a few indexes, would be goo enough for it to get started.

edited 30th Mar '11 11:42:58 PM by EternalSeptember

I know we could do that. But I figured that since a rename might be in order, it is better to do it now than latter, for sake of simplicity. There is piratically no inbound anyway. It wouldn't hurt leave it for 3 days in YKTTW.

Yeah we need a rename. We have stuff like not being based on works.

Not only does the article have only four wicks in nine months, only one of them is a genuine wick: Of the other three, two of them only reference its status as a Trope Namer, and the third is a Title Drop within the article itself.

So it's quite clear that the article is not spreading. At all.

edited 31st Mar '11 9:51:56 AM by Stratadrake

As the creator of this trope article, I can safely say that I did put it through YKTTW before launching it. It just didn't get nearly as much Wiki Magic as it needed. (Also I thought the title was decent enough, given the sheer size of the Harry Potter fandom...)

edited 10th Jul '11 11:39:20 PM by FuschlatzOReilly

If The Umbridge needed renaming, then so does this.

Harry who? No, seriously, I've read the books and seen the movies, but I still didn't make the connection till it was pointed out. Harry Potter's popular, but your average casual fan isn't necessarily going to remember details that may seem unforgettable to the core base.

I'm afraid this article has no Wiki Magic. The 5 wikilinks break down as follows:

• 4 links to the Trope Namer
• 1 link to the actual trope

A diff reveals that out of +1 wikilinks in three months, 1 of them is referencing the actual platform, not the underlying trope. Which, by the way, is the exact same kind of misuse that plagued The Umbridge.

edited 11th Jul '11 8:41:44 AM by Stratadrake

Bump.

Two months after , we're down to only four wicks. (Maybe one was in Troper Tales?) Even if we tried a special promotion, I think the name is far too obscure to work. With use this minor and wicks this few, a rename has absolutely no danger of causing disruption, and, as I said before, the reference will be unclear to all but the most hard-core Potter fans, so I firmly support a rename.

edited 8th Sep '11 3:17:07 PM by Xtifr

Even to those who get it, it's not obvious what the trope is. Gateway To Adventure? Place that's Invisible to Normals? Supernatural place that's located in part of a busy mundane place?

EDIT: Turns out it's none of those. It's a place you get into via seemingly impossible means.

edited 8th Sep '11 3:37:16 PM by shimaspawn

The main reason I launch this trope in the first place was because I thought the name was actually pretty good. Man, what a fucking idiot I was...

Nah, just suffering from Fan Myopia and misled by the precedent of a lot of other bad names out there. I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

Looking at the wicks:

1. Literature.Harry Potter: From the "Tropes that Harry Potter has named" section.
2. Recap.Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows C 33 The Princes Tale*: Appears to be referring to the Trope Namer.
3. TropeNamers.Literature: Just a list of tropes Harry Potter and JK Rowling named.
4. Platform Nine And Three Quarters: The actual page.

*Link too big to work properly in the usual way.

edited 8th Sep '11 11:48:35 PM by MangaManiac

Yes, there will be no disruption at all in renaming this.

Skip the SP, straight to Alternative Titles?

We can do that.

So we need suggestions. The core is "hidden place accessed by impossible means". Hidden Place Accessed By Impossible Means seems too long, though. But is it really Impossible Access To Hidden Place? (Also too long.) The trope namer could be considered either, since it's accessed by impossible means, but is, itself, the way you access (the train to) Hogwarts.

Impossible Entrance or Impossible Entryway?

As requested, there is now an alternative titles crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add names as you see fit.

Hrm, not thrilled with any of the suggestions so far (even though four of them were taken from my earlier post).

Could we expand this trope definition a bit? As it is written know, it seems to apply only to cases where a character is given an instruction and thinks "that's impossible"? But surely it could be used for the Get Smart kind of entrance that involves any sort of wierd or eccentric hidden entrance, like having the entrance to your headquarters be a phone booth elevator.