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LeighSabio Mate Griffon To Mare from Love party! Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Mar 26th 2011 at 9:10:31 AM

If you write from the viewpoint of a male character, is it by definition male gaze? How do you make such a story enjoyable for both sexes, rather than just men?

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#2: Mar 26th 2011 at 9:43:40 AM

No. It is not automatically Male Gaze if it is being told from a male's point of view.

I think it is possible to write anything from any gender's point of view without alienating the opposite gender from it. Male Gaze is about focusing more on stuff that appeals to men, such as fanservice-y shots of women and observations of how hot/sexy/cute/whatever women are. If your story has nothing to do with those things, you should avert the trope easily. Check Male Gaze for more.

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#3: Mar 26th 2011 at 9:43:59 AM

A male gaze has the author focusing on women — their jiggling breasts, their asses and their sensuous curves. If you want for more depth from the male viewpoint, to make it appeal for the ladies too, I suppose you can add a degree of sensitivity to what they say. A bit of romanticism. I find it dull if this male character is all testosterone-pumping MANLINESS. These dudes are made for action movies.

But you also want to appeal to the men also, and so I would suggest showing what the men do, as truthfully as you can. Remember that men can be as diverse as pencils. Some like pursuing after ladies. Some like video games and cars more than anything else.. (c.f. Crysis waii).

Some have this cold, hardened wall they project, if only because they're so soft on the inside. Trust your imagination.

edited 26th Mar '11 9:45:11 AM by QQQQQ

Kaxen Since: Jan, 2010
#4: Mar 26th 2011 at 9:48:16 AM

I thought male gaze is when the camera angle is waaay more interested in T&A ?

I don't think a male viewpoint character would be particularly obnoxious unless the character really does describe the world like the sort of person who can't comprehend women are anything besides tits and ass (or conquests...) and it's played for serious. Or something like that.

I wouldn't hate on a guy for finding women pretty and subsequently mentioning it once in a while. :-/

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#5: Mar 26th 2011 at 9:49:16 AM

And others are just soft little squishy pillows of cuteness, like many of the guys I write.

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LeighSabio Mate Griffon To Mare from Love party! Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Mar 26th 2011 at 10:19:47 AM

Male Gaze is about focusing more on stuff that appeals to men, such as fanservice-y shots of women and observations of how hot/sexy/cute/whatever women are. If your story has nothing to do with those things, you should avert the trope easily. Check Male Gaze for more.

Well, it's romance/erotica. I need to write about the male lead's sexual attraction to the female lead. But I just want to make sure that the male lead is equally gazed at/sexualized. I don't want the male lead to be just a blank in terms of appearance, nor do I want the female lead to be a barbie doll.

"All pain is a punishment, and every punishment is inflicted for love as much as for justice." — Joseph De Maistre.
CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#7: Mar 26th 2011 at 10:35:13 AM

To subvert it, equal amounts of attention should be given to both the girl and the guy. And you want to know how to do it?

One obvious way off the top of my head is switching viewpoints between the two.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Mar 26th 2011 at 10:44:31 AM

I think Male Gaze is exclusively meta. When you have a character focus on another characters features it's either Distracted by the Sexy or Eating the Eye Candy.

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PDown It's easy, mmkay? Since: Jan, 2012
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#9: Mar 26th 2011 at 5:33:44 PM

I've found that I am sexually attracted to personality as well as physical appearance. Have your character do the same thing?

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Mar 27th 2011 at 12:25:33 PM

Agreed with Deboss here. Male Gaze is about the creator's relationship with their work and their assumptions about their audience.

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