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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1551: Sep 5th 2016 at 2:51:39 PM

It happened before?!!

Also, I guess that might be troublesome for the show.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#1552: Sep 5th 2016 at 5:13:14 PM

Not really. The Other Darrin is no big deal for most animated shows; only The Simpsons seems to avoid it at all costs no matter what when there's the slightest chance they can avoid it.

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
X-14: Killer Cheese
#1553: Sep 5th 2016 at 5:28:08 PM

He's already served his time, all 48 hours of it. It's not going to affect the show unless he actually gets fired over it.

twentytwopilots Since: Sep, 2016
#1554: Sep 7th 2016 at 5:38:56 AM

i'm excited for spider-gwen

Vampfox Since: Nov, 2012
#1555: Sep 12th 2016 at 9:14:49 AM

[up] Me too. Spider-Gwen is my favorite Spider character in the comics right now.

As much as I have really mixed feelings on this show I have to say this. Tom Kenny is a great Doc Ock.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1556: Sep 12th 2016 at 11:21:10 AM

[up]Most definitely. Doc Ock probably is the best thing that has come out of this show.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1557: Sep 12th 2016 at 9:41:01 PM

edited 12th Sep '16 9:41:20 PM by KnownUnknown

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1558: Sep 13th 2016 at 2:28:36 AM

[up]Easy, easy, Doc, I meant out of the show itself^^ You're still my favourite Doc Ock when it comes to Spider-Man cartoons in general^^

edited 13th Sep '16 2:29:05 AM by Theokal3

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#1559: Sep 18th 2016 at 10:31:09 AM

Speaking of Doc Ock and regards to the recent episode, does the Wolf Spider give off a serious Superior Spiderman vibe? Especially the moment when he grew out spider limbs when he fought the other Spideys?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1560: Sep 18th 2016 at 10:53:53 AM

He reminded me of Spider-Carnage.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#1561: Sep 18th 2016 at 12:03:52 PM

[up] Yeah his character does fit in line with that character as well. Especially for those who remembered the Clone Saga . . . animated series one which this Spider-Verse seems slightly similar to.

But based on his appearance, drive to be the best Spider-Man and voice sounding like Doc Ock on full ham mode he kind of make me think of the Superior Spider-Man leading me to believe he is from the universe where Doctor Octopus switch bodies with Peter in an attempt to become a powerful Spider-Man instead of being a Peter Parker who became evil which is a major drawback of the whole special as they didn't give an explanation as to why Spider-Wolf is evil unlike Spider-Carnage.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1562: Sep 18th 2016 at 1:25:00 PM

It's not like they didn't have the time, so best we can chalk it down to is For the Evulz.

Anyone else think it's weird that Miles and Rio decided to leave their universe? Gwen says in the beginning that crime had gotten worse and unlike in Peter's universe there doesn't seem to be an abundance of heroes.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#1563: Sep 18th 2016 at 1:53:11 PM

Well at least they could of gone with the Cynicism Catalyst or that Superior Spider-Man reason if they don't have time to explain. All they need is one or two lines and bam a good excuse why this Peter is a dick.

Yeah that is weird and very contrived just so Miles don't have to be Put on the Bus.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#1564: Sep 18th 2016 at 2:27:57 PM

So it's not the Spider-Gwen we know but it is at the same time...weird. Still her va did a fine job, and I enjoyed seeing her in action. So I guess the show is still going since we still have to see Mary Jane in a spider-costume.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#1565: Sep 19th 2016 at 1:28:44 PM

I liked the idea of Gwen being a Composite Character.

Rio decided on a whim to leave her Earth. Yeah, that's something else. lol

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#1566: Sep 19th 2016 at 4:19:07 PM

[up]all her kids friends are in the other universe, and it's just her and miles.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1567: Sep 19th 2016 at 7:37:34 PM

Ignoring that Rio would be leaving behind everything connected to her personal history to go somewhere she, hopefully, doesn't exist. And while SHIELD might cover all of that, there's still the bit where Miles is basically ditching his universe when by all logic he should have stayed behind to help Gwen.

On another note, I've come to realize why I'm bothered by Peter basically being with SHIELD full time now. Compared to before him and the other are more or less Child Soldiers now.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1568: Sep 20th 2016 at 2:57:30 AM

[up]Eh, they started being Child Soldiers a while ago already. I would say it was confirmed when Fury sent them to kill Venom.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1569: Sep 20th 2016 at 5:52:38 AM

To me the implications were always there, but it feels like this season really hammered it in.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#1570: Sep 20th 2016 at 6:29:11 PM

The Marvel Universe has always been using child soldiers. The original X-Men and the New Mutants were Xavier's little superpowered mutant strike forces, and then Cable's in the latter's case. And way before that, Bucky Barnes fought in the Second World War.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1571: Sep 21st 2016 at 3:29:49 AM

[up]True, but in Bucky's case, that was at a time where we didn't realize the implications behind such a thing. And when they did they deconstructed it through retcons. Same for all the X-Men examples, at least as far as I remember. Nowadays, when child are used as soldiers, it's usually presented as morally questionable, or at least ambiguous. Fury in this version does so and it's not only presented as okay, but responsible. Uh, yeah, no. I get these aren't regular teenagers, but still...

edited 21st Sep '16 3:30:28 AM by Theokal3

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#1572: Sep 21st 2016 at 4:37:00 AM

This is one of these weird things that just happen in comics and there is no answer and yet it's impossible to ignore. Like when Spider-Man didn't want his daughter to fight crime so young and she brought up that he was no older when he started fighting crime, and there just no good excuse to this.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#1573: Sep 21st 2016 at 5:08:13 AM

[up]... Fair enough. But still, you gotta admit, there is just something wrong with the show basically saying "don't become a freelance vigilante when you're still a teenager, that's not responsible. Instead join a secret organization who will put camera everywhere in your house and send you fight dangerous criminals with orders to kill."

edited 21st Sep '16 5:09:43 AM by Theokal3

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#1574: Sep 21st 2016 at 7:21:08 AM

Well, I think we would look more suspiciously at Professor X and his X-Men or New Mutants if we didn't get used to them, but yeah, true.

See, this show is still in some way based on Ultimate comics and in Ultimate, Nick Fury is very morally grey character for good reason. In there, him recruiting Peter is given questionable treatment it deserves. But this show is more simple then that.

GamerSlyRatchet Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#1575: Sep 21st 2016 at 9:29:13 AM

Remember that episode that portrayed Nick Fury and SHIELD as being in the right for setting up invasive home surveillance in Peter's home?

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