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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1: Mar 20th 2011 at 8:16:27 PM

I have no idea, and the two-sentence description does very little to help. The closest thing I can make out is "humans have sex with aliens (or possibly, specifically Green-Skinned Space Babe aliens)" which, from my point of view, looks like just The Same But More Specific for Interspecies Romance. The only other trope I can make out - supported by the majority of the quotes - is parodies of James T. Kirk's approach to interstellar diplomacy, which makes this more of a Stock Parody then anything else.

At any rate, it's confusing. I didn't post this on TRS as there may not be an actual problem, but there very well might be - feel free to move it if that's the case.

Link.

edited 20th Mar '11 8:18:23 PM by nrjxll

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2: Mar 20th 2011 at 8:22:34 PM

The trope is "the first time you meet a new alien race, fuck it." It's a bit more specific than just Interspecies Romance, because it needs to also be a First Contact situation and it's normally not a long term relationship.

The examples I'm familiar with seem to be correct.

edited 20th Mar '11 8:23:54 PM by shimaspawn

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#3: Mar 20th 2011 at 9:05:01 PM

Well, I noticed a few examples that are wrong, debatable, or just simple Interspecies Romance, and these are only the ones I'm familiar with:

  • Battlestar Galactica, second bullet: mostly talks about human/Cylon relationships, which don't fit in terms of first contact, and the Cylons aren't technically aliens anyway.
  • Everything from Babylon 5, except the subversion with Ivanova and the alien diplomat.
  • Almost everything from the mass o' bullets under Mass Effect is either incorrect or at least debatable.
  • Everything from Knights Of The Old Republic - given how multicultural the Star Wars galaxy is, these don't come anywhere near the idea of first contact.

Now, I know I could just fix it myself, but the fact that 4 bad examples (lengthy examples in a few cases) on a page that's already small might indicate there should be some clarification here. The description really needs some fleshing out.

edited 20th Mar '11 9:05:33 PM by nrjxll

PDown It's easy, mmkay? Since: Jan, 2012
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#4: Mar 20th 2011 at 9:30:00 PM

I see this trope as being "sex with aliens as Wish-Fulfillment".

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#5: Mar 20th 2011 at 9:32:59 PM

[up] That's no where in the trope description or anything else on the page. Where do you get that idea from?

[up][up] The trope probably needs a bit of clean up then. It happens.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#7: Mar 20th 2011 at 11:56:00 PM

This is really a subtrope of First Contact where the contact happens to be sexual. It's got a lot of different connotations than the standard First Contact trope and it tends to set a different mood.

It can sometimes be a subtrope girl of the week, but it doesn't have to be. For example, it can only happen once ever. They can go on to have a longer term interaction. She doesn't have to be gone by the end of the next episode. In fact, it doesn't in fact have to have anything to do with Girl of the Week. None of the requirements for that trope are requirements for this one.

edited 20th Mar '11 11:59:05 PM by shimaspawn

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#8: Mar 21st 2011 at 2:20:53 AM

Maybe this needs a more illustrative name. The current one isn't awful, but very general, and the trope is pretty much calling out for a pun on "contact".

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Micah from traveling the post-doc circuit Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#9: Mar 21st 2011 at 9:56:58 AM

Except, to be clear, it's not a subtrope of the trope we call First Contact (humans discover that aliens exist, period). It's a subtrope of that other thing you might want to call "first contact", which is about the first meeting with a specific alien race.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#10: Mar 21st 2011 at 12:03:45 PM

Ah, this is true. So it's not actually a subtrope of any trope. It's just strongly related to several of them.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Mar 22nd 2011 at 8:24:18 AM

Yup, it's first contact, lowercase, which is an anthropological term that describes the first meeting between two cultures. First Contact, uppercase, is a Speculative Fiction trope that predates this site that describes humanity's very first contact with aliens. Potentially confusing, but a preexisting term, unfortunately.

So it wouldn't be amiss to mention that it's a kind of first contact, just be sure to mention that it doesn't have to be First Contact.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#12: Mar 22nd 2011 at 5:08:10 PM

Should we move this to the Trope Repair Shop?

BigT grimAuxiliatrix Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Apr 2nd 2011 at 12:18:37 PM

[up]I'd say so. It's got misuse and is named for a work.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Apr 2nd 2011 at 4:19:48 PM

Wait, namef for what work? None as far as I know...it's a pun on Boldly Going. The name needs no help here.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Apr 2nd 2011 at 4:28:33 PM

Well I say the trope name does need help, as it's not indicative of the name.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#16: Apr 2nd 2011 at 9:24:41 PM

^^ If it's the same pun I think it is ... eww. I hate that word.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#18: Apr 22nd 2011 at 9:25:51 AM

I'm going to need a paper bag and blindfold over my head for this one, but ... Where No Man Has Boinked Before?

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