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DeLuman Guest-Star Party Member from Nor Cal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#1: Mar 15th 2011 at 11:26:47 AM

Hi guys, I was just about to post Master Of Orion to the Real Time Strategy Index, as I noticed it didn't have an index (except the 90s) and RTS was the first thing that I could think of. However as I got there, I remembered that we have a whole classification for games like Master of Orion, which in fact, it techincally started, 4X.

Looking on the 4X page though, this place is a mess first off, but nothing that isn't solvable with a little alphabetaizing and normal cleaning. But that's when I noticed it's not actually an index.

Masters, my trope-fu is weak. This seems like a change that should be made, please review and either advise me the MASTER PALM TECHINIQUE necissary to EXPLODE ITS HEART... errr i mean turn this into an index, or do so yourselves.

Thanks!

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Mar 15th 2011 at 11:32:35 AM

Right now, it's not written to be an index — to do that, it should have a list of tropes that always or commonly show up in 4X games, or a list of pages that we have for 4X games. Right now, the tropes are mentioned, but they're potholed in the description. The games are mentioned, but the names are buried in sentences in the examples list. Making it an index wouldn't do anything right now, because the software looks for a bulleted list to generate the index bar from.

edited 15th Mar '11 11:35:23 AM by Madrugada

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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Mar 15th 2011 at 5:19:27 PM

I believe the OP wants to make this into an index of works, this desire for an index being kicked off by a work. This seems reasonable and possible, without affecting the descriptiveness of the page.

I believe the best thing to do would be to change them into the "bullet point double slash new line" format so that the help and inspiring description is there but the work title is in the proper position for indexing.

I will give an example for a couple of the first ones on the page. I believe this will provide indexing ability while the format puts things into a form less conducive to natter, hiding titles in potholes and encouraging short but sweet description.

Take a look, see what you think. I think losing the idea of putting Civilisation "clones" is no loss at all (hint: it's 4X, you could do that with all of them).

edited 15th Mar '11 5:23:24 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

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#4: Mar 15th 2011 at 5:43:09 PM

That should work.

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SemiCasualObserver That Guy from Someplace Since: Oct, 2010
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#5: May 8th 2011 at 8:11:51 PM

Well, since there isn't already an index for turn-based strategy games (which are more or less always 4X games), I'm all for reorganization.

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Ejia Since: Jun, 2009
#6: Jun 10th 2011 at 8:47:06 AM

Um, Turn-Based Strategy is an index.

4X used to be an index, but was changed into a trope page. I wanted to start the work of turning it back into an index, but it was immensely confusing.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Jul 30th 2011 at 8:13:58 AM

No. Preexisting term, and we have enough Trope Genre tropes as it is.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Jul 30th 2011 at 8:38:31 AM

Should we custom title it to have a numeral 4?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#10: Jul 30th 2011 at 9:03:11 AM

Dear lord, no. That's a bad idea in general.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: Jul 30th 2011 at 10:06:26 AM

Well, that's the official title (on wikipedia anyway), and we can't start a wikiword with a numeral.

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