Better title needed: Bloody Biometric

This article doesn't seem to be getting much use, could it benefit from a better title?

I look at the title, and at the definition, and I start thinking: 1 - The trope has nothing to do with actual blood. 2 - or British slang. 3 - It's also grammatically incorrect: "biometric" is an adjective lacking a noun to modify; the noun form (more specifically the science of biometric identification), is "biometrics", always plural.

The bloody part is obviously a pun based on the bodypart being removed (and yes, I guessed that before I read the page).

Guess we can use custom titles to add the missing S.

If it's a pun, it certainly wasn't obvious to me. I blame the difference in vowels between the two.

Yeah, a YKTTW for this just popped up. I think it needs wiks and a good redirect more than anything else.

@Deboss: I have a tab open on YKTTW right now. Are you referring to this YKTTW?

Yes.

You know I'm pretty sure that You Know That Trope Where? used to be where you asked what a trope was called.

You Know That Thing Where is where you propose a new trope. Lost And Found is "Don't we have a trope for [X] already? What's it called?"

edited 14th Mar '11 7:17:31 AM by Madrugada

The trope suffers from two problems. One, the title is vague enough to be potentially confusing. Two, the description is poorly written and never actually gets to the point of saying what the trope is about.

edited 14th Mar '11 7:29:12 AM by Fighteer

You forgot that it appears on hardly any of the pages listed under examples. On the Dead Space 2 page it was referred to as Of Corpse He's Alive until I changed it.

There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.

I edited the description a bit to try to make it a little clearer. I would definitely appreciate some feedback on whether or not further tweaks to the description are needed too.

Adding Bypass at the end might solve the problem... Bloody Biometric Bypass.

So this is a trope about using a guard's body part to bypass a biometric lock? That's certainly better than just a rundown of what biometrics are, but the "bloody" is unnecessary and distracting — Biometric Bypass would work by itself.

And since nobody thought to check the stats last time, as of this post we are looking at 37 wikilinks and 24 inbounds.

edited 29th Aug '11 6:29:47 PM by Stratadrake

I like the Bloody on there. It lets you know that it's not just working around the biometric lock.

The "bloody" is necessary. This is not simply "working around a biometric lock". It's getting through a biometric lock by using a body part that has been forcibly removed from the person it belongs to; or its somewhat less gory variant, by using their body part while it's still attached to them but they're unable to resist. The reason the variant is included is that heroes tend to use the "unable to resist" version; villains tend to use the "removed" one.

Bloody Biometric Bypass

Seeing the above proposal has convinced me to switch tp upvote. I really like the original name, with which I didn't see any problem, so anything that improves on it and helps remove ambiguities is highly welcome.

Bypass implies you're working around it, which really isn't the case; you're giving the biometric exactly what it wants.

You'd do better to use "False" or something like that. Nothing's being bypassed.

That is overly literal. They are bypassing the lock, in that they are causing it to open when it shouldn't.

Overly literal sounds good to me; it would help to prevent misuse for people who cut themselves bypassing the lock.

In all seriousness, we're going for clear, concise, witty. It's clearer, it's neutral on concise, it's either neutral or slightly less witty; there's really no reason not to use it. TRS is littered with tropes that weren't named literally enough.

I contest the "slightly less witty" and think that the proposed name is concise enough, given how "bypass" (in the context it is used in this site, which is clear) and "biometric" complement each other. Add the "bloody" and the Added Alliterative Appeal. Still more than enough to support as candidate.

How about Bloody Biometric Key? It avoids British Slang, preserves the name while also being literal.

I don't like the word "Biometric" because I don't know what it means, and I don't like when people use words I don't understand to try and shoehorn alliteration into a title. Actually, I don't like when people shoehorn alliteration into a title regardless, but when I have to use a dictionary to figure out what the title is talking about, it makes me suspicious.

Incidentally, I did look it up, and it turns out "biometric" is an adjective, not a noun. This raises the question, "Bloody biometric what?"

Also, I don't like "bloody" either, because it makes me think of literal bloodiness, as in an identification system that requires a sample of blood. Cutting off the hand for the fingerprints is not a connection I'd naturally make.

Or in other words, I agree with the OP.

edited 30th Aug '11 8:44:18 PM by troacctid

What British slang? The "Bloody" is not British slang; it was completely literal.

"I don't know what it means" is not grounds for not accepting something as a name. Come on, today you can learn something! Like, come on, biometrics? The trendy word 2008-2011 ever since the whole terrorists, airport rapescanners ans stuff? And it's not there to try and "shoehorn" stuff anyway, it's there because it has value. But meh, I expected a shoehorn accusation, not this early though...

As for the AAA, from what I've seen it makes it easier to remember a title. It also has a basis that's been discussed somewhere about all those LL names in DC Comics...

edited 30th Aug '11 8:55:20 PM by SilentReverence