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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#1: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:34:30 PM

Compare this:

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#2: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:35:29 PM

To this:

Thoughts? Do you think it was a Shout-Out? Do you think someday war sill stop being about resources or territory or ideology or national pride, and become... a self-sustaining sector of the economy?

edited 11th Mar '11 2:36:25 PM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
MrPastry To Object or Not Object? from Japanifornia Since: Sep, 2010
To Object or Not Object?
#3: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:35:39 PM

I thought this was going to be about Duty Calls. :(

It's more frustrating waiting for the asskicking than the asskicking itself.
GeneralTommy WAAAGH! from With Da Orkz Since: Jan, 2001
WAAAGH!
#4: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:36:04 PM

[up]"War, war never changes....or does it?"

Still need More Dakka, and it's about time to start a real WAAAAAGH.
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#5: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:36:12 PM

I forget what episode it is, but this internet cartoon series called "Wacky Game Jokez 4 Kidz" calls out both F03 and MSG 4 on this bullshit.

Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#6: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:36:49 PM

Where?[up]

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#7: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:41:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfB-UCRCxo <- In one of the episodes of that series. One of the camera crew asks Mickey why he hates games, and he goes to a TV and puts in a video of MGS saying "War has changed" followed by a vid of the "FO 3 War Never Changes" and he calls it "empty philosophical bullshit". I can't watch Youtube, so you're on your own trying to find it, but it was one of the later episodes and they only make like 12 or so...

LOEADITOOx .... from -???- Since: Feb, 2011
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#9: Mar 11th 2011 at 2:46:21 PM

It would be hilarious if in DNF Duke gets asked what he feels the future of war will be and he'll say "Hmmm. War might change, might not. 'Could go either way". [lol]

Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
Burn
#10: Mar 11th 2011 at 3:08:05 PM

The MGS version actually is very similar to the situation in Nineteen Eighty Four.

Anyway, both are wrong. War has changed; the evolution of deterrence is a great example of that. However, war will never become the "well-oiled machine" of Metal Gear Solid 4, because war is a chaotic, vicious, ugly thing. Trying to control it for a sustained period of time is just asking for trouble.

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#11: Mar 11th 2011 at 3:10:26 PM

GWAR has changed a few times.

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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#14: Mar 11th 2011 at 3:51:11 PM

What's GWAR?

And why can't war be a well-oiled machine with the right technology?

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
Burn
#15: Mar 11th 2011 at 3:56:19 PM

GWAR is...

Uh...

I feel really uncomfortable talking about GWAR.

This is GWAR.

edited 11th Mar '11 3:57:17 PM by Scardoll

Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#16: Mar 11th 2011 at 3:58:53 PM

...

*removes sunglasses*

Mother of God...

edited 11th Mar '11 3:59:14 PM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#17: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:00:13 PM

GWAR is a really terrible band that only high-school jocks like. And that's all that should be said. 0_0

Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#18: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:01:59 PM

Worse than KILL MAIM BURN Debauchery?

Also, you mean high-school jocks read science-fiction and fantasy? I mean, are they supposed to read at all?

edited 11th Mar '11 4:03:46 PM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#20: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:06:47 PM

I can only go on experience of who listened to what in my school, and when it comes to GWAR it was the jocks.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#21: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:10:46 PM

Well historically, war has changed. Many times. First it boils down to who out numbers who and who has the worst diseases. If immunity and stability develop it becomes about who has the better tactics. As technology and tacticians become universal it becomes about who can out endure the other. The only thing that doesn't change is that people die.

edited 11th Mar '11 4:13:16 PM by Cider

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Recon5 Avvie-free for life! from Southeast Asia Since: Jan, 2001
Avvie-free for life!
#22: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:12:01 PM

War will really change when it stops being about opinions and resources and shifts its focus to the more petty things like the Internet Age calls for.

Miijhal Since: Jul, 2011
#23: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:16:27 PM

"Putin, YOU BITCH! YOU FUCKING DEFRIENDED ME! IT'S OOOON!"

pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
OMG NO NOSECONES
#24: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:25:14 PM

^ Yes. And then we'll let them slug it out with fists, without sending youths off to get kill- oh wait. Putin would win every time.

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#25: Mar 11th 2011 at 4:28:49 PM

Put-in, the Walking Shirtless Scene, you really wanna put it in!

edited 11th Mar '11 4:29:13 PM by Ardiente

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."

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