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kitty2 Since: Jul, 2012
#26: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:07:09 AM

"In short you are claiming to be the superior Sonic fan just because you played the games."

No, Nik. What puts you in the back of the crowd is the fact that you have no solid research/experience to validate the points you've made to previous users (your Iizuka bringing Shadow back-reason being the biggest blooper. So late to the party that everyone had attended years ago), yet you want to jump into the arguments about it. It's not the fact that you didn't "play them" or have any information, it's the fact that you want to baw among that fault. If you don't have resources, then you're not resourceful enough to go out and make it into an argument with everyone else.

It is obvious that you either lost track of what you were trying to defend or you did not grasp what I was trying to explain to you. And looking at your post more...you still don't get it.

"Everything else Sonic-realted is irrelevant. My liking the characters and story means nothing because I prefer other Sonic media." Your talent to miss the point by attempting to elude the argument is the only competence you seem to have at the point.

"Firstly, what you just did is called an Ad Hominem. I don't appreciate it. i asked you a simple question to support your argument and you came back with a personal attack."

Somehow, "First off, try sounding less full of yourself" is utterly respectable in contrast to that, and you should most definitely be victimized. Forgive me for hurting any internet feelings through the computer screen. Oh noes.

"Second, did it ever occur to you that you being around all those hissyfits on the internet has made you biased? That your judgment can be called into question on this matter?" Somehow you keep track of my activity and assume humans can not think with their own brain. Did it ever occur to you that I formed my own opinion before even knowing a Sonic blog existed? I mentioned the "fanbase" to give you a "piece" of where you "can't really see where some people are coming from."

Clearly your Youtube wasn't educational enough.

"Shadow for being a Wangsting emo because of one damn game." Wangst was insinuated in Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Battle, and then eclipsed most of Shadowthe Hedgehog. Three games. With Youtube, you would know that.

You are on a Trope Website. Heed the summary of his video game where it says that wangst was a key trait for Shadow's characterization up until Shadowthe Hedgehog ended itself. Yet his potential ended here...or more appropriately, 06. You lost wind of me saying this?

"Fan Dumb exists in every fanbase." Do not be my echo.

"I won't deny some fans think Shadow is cool just because he's cool but your sweeping generalization is further testament to your arrogance." Stealing words from the dictionary isn't going to help. Reread the post and home in on this: "Though also take into account that several "children" have derived from Sonic X, where "whatever is badass and cool" is liked by the population who hold this golden "Badass" Trope to him and mainly favor him for this alone, so his popularity is somewhat eclipsed by this bunch of Sonic X fans alone." I am specifically talking about the bunch who like him for these reasons, not the entire "generalization" of the population. The latter group tend to be the LOUDEST and end up "SOMEWHAT" eclipsing his fanbase, leaving those who like him for deeper reasons to suffer from their antics which CAUSE the rest to be generalized. This sentence, "The fans seem to enjoy their fanon view of Shadow or "OMG SUCH A SEXY FURRY" more than the canon itself" was referring to those types of fans. Not "every fan and their mama."

"I ike Shadow because of his character and I know other Shadow fans who feel the same way." Who said anything about those fans NOT existing? Especially when I'm one of them. I just don't agree with how they've handled my favorite character (hinted in how I said he has potential that they don't utilize). Did you miss this following portion? "OG supporters" - or the respectably intelligent bunch of older age - liked the character for his sacrifice to "fight for love" and the "Anti-Hero struggle, " something that IS emphasized in his current debut as well, so he's still hooked us to him in spite of the profit-whoring of his badassness, which is what I meant by stating that sentence."

"Except most will say all that was lost with his continued survival." Did it ever occur to you that you being around all those hissyfits on the internet has made you biased? Shadow's "Anti-Hero struggle," in more subtle terms to where he can now come to conclusions faster, has still squeezed its way into games like 06 and Sonic Battle before he came to terms with choosing his own destiny. "His shortcomings" that pave into his "finales" had been the critical appeal to him there the same way it was the appeal to him in SA 2. So it's not lost.

...Everywhere else he's an extra, so there's nothing to pull from there.

"I wasn't bragging." 'Bragging'?

"I'm reading them currently. Beg pardon I'm not supe rup-to-date." Good enough.

"Also don't call me sweetie. I really don't like you."

It's preschool all over again.

"Your attempt to make me out to be ill-informed doesn't really work when i said I was ill-informed and was curious about what others thought."

...Read that again, and see where I gave you slices of "what others thought" in mounds of TLDR. I hardly believe defensiveness equals curiosity.

"Otherwise they - and Archie (which is written by someone who was once a fan in the fanbase. A fact. Read it up) - have been craptastic as of late in two different ways that equal the same result: poor characterization and upped flanderization."

The best one around that even SOJ credits, including the grand Trope website itself.

edited 1st Mar '11 5:16:46 AM by kitty2

Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#27: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:14:28 AM

W—What is going on here? I ignore the thread for an hour or two, and BAM WALLS OF TEXT EVERYWHERE

edited 1st Mar '11 4:14:56 AM by Electivirus

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
#29: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:21:13 AM

So I've heard. But, no cash so no play. ;_;

edited 1st Mar '11 4:21:27 AM by Electivirus

Shlapintogan Since: Dec, 1969
#30: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:26:17 AM

is it bad that I thought someone was arguing with themselves because they don't have an avatar?

Electivirus Since: Jan, 2001
Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:32:32 AM

So yeah, I already asked for this thread to be closed.

Komodin TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator from Windy Hill Zone Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#35: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:41:46 AM

Because as soon as the General Sonic thread was made, I just figured the topic would be continued there as per the suggestion of the first poster.

Though i guess we can keep it open. I just don't really feel like talking to kitty 2 anymore.

edited 1st Mar '11 4:44:49 AM by Nikkolas

kitty2 Since: Jul, 2012
#36: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:46:19 AM

Sonic Colors was good. I wish they'd keep it with their same tone.

And of course Nik doesn't. Closing a thread so one person doesn't have to talk to another person. Feelings were harmed by a computer screen.

edited 1st Mar '11 4:49:05 AM by kitty2

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#37: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:49:20 AM

edited 1st Mar '11 4:55:20 AM by Nikkolas

AngryScientist Nostalgia from Russia with Love Since: Nov, 2009
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#38: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:53:06 AM

You know, Nikkolas, you could've just stopped replying.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:55:00 AM

That's why I intend to do. I asked the mod to lock the thread but if it isn't, I'll just stop posting.

I guess I'll dot aht now.

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
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