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HersheleOstropoler You gotta get yourself some marble columns from BK.NY.US Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Less than three
You gotta get yourself some marble columns
#1: Feb 21st 2011 at 8:09:35 PM

The description makes this look like it's entirely about cartoon characters manifestly based on (usually) contemporary celebrities, in terms of voice and mannerisms. The examples include that, but a lot of examples are Expies of celebrities, sharing both mannerisms and biographies (or at least the popular versions). Which is it? And if it's solely the former, is there a trope for the rest?

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
#2: Feb 21st 2011 at 9:36:23 PM

I've wondered about this myself. Maybe this trope should be defined as a subtrope of Expy? I.e., "Expy of a real-life celebrity?"

BTW, the trope image (or at least its caption) isn't helping. I had to go down to the examples to realize the characters aren't supposed to be the "real" Bush and Rumsfeld, but different characters with many of their assumed characteristics.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#3: Mar 9th 2011 at 8:43:45 PM

Wow, I'm glad I looked up this trope before I used it in my discussion of the Nasty Grace trope, because it did not mean what I thought it did.

I say expand.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4: Mar 9th 2011 at 9:42:30 PM

Expand to the assumed meaning.

unhappyyak :( from Minneapolis Since: Apr, 2009
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#5: Aug 22nd 2011 at 8:36:33 AM

Is this taken care of?

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#6: Aug 22nd 2011 at 1:57:08 PM

Add links to suspiciously similar tropes, like Expy, Captain Ersatz, and Lawyer-Friendly Cameo.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Sep 2nd 2011 at 1:24:16 PM

Has this been cleared up?

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Sep 3rd 2011 at 12:08:39 AM

Nope. We've still got a gap between the text and how the trope is used. The text makes out it is animation-only, the examples range the genres.

I see no reason why we shouldn't remove the artificial restriction and make the trope match the usage. Here is my proposed new version of the text: No Celebrities Were Harmed.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#9: Oct 15th 2011 at 3:48:48 PM

Bump. Is anyone gonna actually DO anything?!

gs Since: Nov, 2009
#10: Dec 4th 2011 at 9:19:08 AM

Edited the the paragraph to make the description not specific to animation.

Why did this need "Trope Repair" for a quick edit job?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#11: Dec 5th 2011 at 2:11:41 AM

When a trope is broadened or narrowed, it's generally a good idea to get other people to give a say on whether or not that's a good idea. That said, I think we're good.

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Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#13: Dec 8th 2011 at 9:13:06 PM

So can this thread be considered resolved?

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