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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#2401: Apr 20th 2024 at 4:36:05 AM

It helped that Lenny's (and the other sharks') design was the least Uncanny Valley out of all. He didn't have a weirdly humanlike face like all the fish, jellyfish and that one octopus did. Combine that with Jack Black's performance and it's not hard to see why he's the best character.

Come to think of it, the movie is called Shark Tale, not Fish Tale... so even if Oscar's the protagonist, it's technically Lenny and Don Lino who are the title characters.

AdventurousYak9234 Since: Feb, 2023
#2402: Apr 20th 2024 at 4:51:07 AM

Count me in as another Shark Tale fan, it's a pretty funny and enjoyable movie and also pretty nostalgic for me as I was obsessed with it when it first came out. I remember the movie's version of Car Wash would always play on the radio and I would listen to it without a care in the world. Mid to late 2004 was one of the best years of my entire childhood.

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#2403: Apr 20th 2024 at 4:59:38 AM

A good thing about Shark Tale is Don Lino, mostly because it's very hard to screw up a mob boss.

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#2404: Apr 20th 2024 at 6:46:17 AM

> I still don't get how it got an award.

all those Big Name Stars ensured it got an an award,thats why they signed on.

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Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. from the lupine den Since: Jan, 2001
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#2405: Apr 20th 2024 at 8:18:31 AM

Scorsese was in it right? Probably the one that made it get an award.

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king15 Having Faun from not certain Since: Mar, 2024
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#2406: Apr 20th 2024 at 9:07:52 AM

To be fair, Sharks Tale is basically a Scorsese film (crime, gangsters, anti-hero protagonist), just with fish.

Edited by king15 on Apr 20th 2024 at 4:08:00 PM

TonyG Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#2407: Apr 20th 2024 at 2:25:18 PM

Come to think of it, the movie is called Shark Tale, not Fish Tale... so even if Oscar's the protagonist, it's technically Lenny and Don Lino who are the title characters.

The Working Title was Shark Slayer, which makes more sense since they call Oscar that in the movie. Of course, movie executives aren't too keen on putting the word "slayer" on the title of a movie for kids.

As for how it won an award, it has two — an ASCAP award for Hans Zimmer's score and a Kids Choice Award for Wil Smith for best voice in an animated movie.

EDIT: It also won an Atrios Award (from the Casting Society of America) for best casting in an animated feature.

Edited by TonyG on Apr 20th 2024 at 5:28:37 AM

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Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#2408: Apr 20th 2024 at 5:55:41 PM

Okay, so, I'm in the middle here, regarding Shark Tale... where I like the film, but I don't by any means find it to be a good film. Nostalgia is the crazy aphrodisiac that makes me think about it fondly at all in the first place, it's a great drinking film... and fuck it, I'll admit it, I kinda like seeing Oscar betting all his money on the seahorse he thought was gonna win, only to see it backfire, and to see him flung into shark territory, and needing to manage a Hail Mary (read: Deus ex Machina) to get out of that mess.

No, if I want a good early Dreamworks film, I got a veritable buffet, between Shrek 1, Shrek 2, The Road To El Dorado... and oh yes, The Prince Of Egypt.

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#2409: Apr 20th 2024 at 8:59:23 PM

Oh hey, speaking of... Day Two of my DreamWorks 30th anniversary review series:

"With this staff, you will perform My wonders."

A beautiful, emotional Epic Movie based upon the Book of Exodus... and rather boldly so, as it is very faithful to the story, no holds barred. This certainly ain't VeggieTales, that's for sure (which, fun fact, DreamWorks actually also owns). The animation is breathtaking, on par with Disney's best efforts. While not all of the CGI integration has aged the best, the sheer spectacle of how it's used to portray the miracles and plagues more than makes up for it. The voice cast is excellent, boasting the likes of Val Kilmer, Ralph Fiennes, Michelle Pfeiffer, Sandra Bullock, Jeff Goldblum, Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Patrick Stewart, all performing their absolute best. The focus on the relationship between Moses and Rameses is a great angle to take with this version, adding a ton of character depth and raw emotion to both of them. The scene where Moses hands back the ring to Rameses especially stands out, with him displaying all sorts of conflicting emotion on his face within a few seconds without saying a single word. The fact that, like I mentioned, nothing about the story is sugarcoated for kids is very commendable; not only is stuff like the slaying of the firstborn present, but we see it happen. In an era where Hunchback of Notre Dame got away with a G rating, this definitely earned its PG. The cinematography is amazing, knowing just how to frame each scene to elicit the maximum amount of awe, wonder, and terror. The awe-inspining music by Hans Zimmer manages to be the charry on top of it all. This is an absolutely incredible film all around, and definitely hard to believe this is the same studio famous for things like belching ogres, crazy penguins, and rotund pandas. Next time, we move on to another traditionally animated film... though thankfully one much lighter.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 21st 2024 at 4:35:41 AM

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Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. from the lupine den Since: Jan, 2001
This is going to be so much fun.
#2410: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:52:17 AM

It sucks that apparently TLW never got an award.

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#2411: Apr 21st 2024 at 6:34:34 AM

It didn't need one,its still a great movie though.

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Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#2412: Apr 21st 2024 at 11:59:06 AM

[up][up][up] Dream Works just... has this uncanny ability... of excelling the hell out of what anyone could imagine is possible with their animated offerings, when we least expect them to... and let the record stand, this predates the first two Shrek films... but, let's think about The Prince Of Egypt for a bit.

We have a story, based on a Biblical Old Testament story, with many set pieces, a good deal few creative liberties being taken, the kind of tale that you know full well loads of Christians in the world are going to want to be done right, and of what we know of Dreamworks today, here and now... and, admittedly, what we've always sort of known about them, even back then (they are shockingly consistent about their metronome of quality), it was a Russian Fuckin' Roulette with them, and for all one could know, slapping the name "Dream Works" on a Biblical tale, spells disaster of a cheap parody film cashing in on all the cringiest trends that everyone forgets INSTANTLY. We instead have one of the single most powerful pieces of animation I ever had the privilege to watch. It doesn't hold your hand, it isn't up in your face about things, it lets the atmosphere speak for itself, taking you through Moses and his perspective, witnessing to his own horror, his adoptive family turning out to be... insidious, regarding the slaves in their command... and in following his every action to lead his people out of there (with beautiful animation, may I add)... I left contented. Dream Works delivered with this film, and it's an early indication on what they're capable of at their best.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#2413: Apr 21st 2024 at 12:09:55 PM

Ookamikun what is TLW?

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#2415: Apr 22nd 2024 at 8:06:29 PM

Day 3 - Beloved cult classic or underrated comedy gem? Both. Both is good.

Road to El Dorado is just a fun little movie that I'm glad has been getting more recognition as time has gone on. It was a huge bomb upon release, going with the pattern of traditionally animated films around the Turn of the Millennium, and even got a massive critical thrashing even by the animators themselves, who didn't exactly have a great time making it. I can't really understand that reception though, the movie is so very enjoyable from beginning to end. The humor is great, supplemented by incredibly fluid character animations and very snappy dialogue. The setting of El Dorado is colorful and gorgeous to look at, with imaginative architecture and creatures inhabiting it. The characters are simple, but fun and likable, with great comedic performances by Kevin Kline and Kenneth Branagh as the lovably roguish leads. Chel is a fun sidekick for her memorable sass, guile, and, uh... other reasons. The plot of masquerading as gods to pull off a con is incredibly fun, and it doesn't go into the cliched Liar Revealed plot by the end, which I can appreciate. Only the villain outright figures out the deception, and it's subtly implied the chief did as well, but chose not to say anything, which was a fascinating angle to go with. The songs from Elton John are nice and catchy, but not too memorable compared to most of Disney's. In fact, this movie feels like it's probably the most outwardly Disneyesque of DreamWorks's library, it's got a feel similar to their more comedy-oriented works like Aladdin and Hercules (in fact, Katzenberg brought on a lot of the people who worked on those films). It's definitely got a lot of its own identity to help it stand out from them, though, so that's not really a bad thing. My one complaint is that the CGI integration... isn't great. I pointed out how Prince of Egypt was showing its age a bit on that front, but El Dorado has aged even worse in that area without Egypt's awe-inspiring spectacle to make up for it, but hey, that's a rather minor complaint. This is just an incredibly fun time all around. Next up, we switch animation mediums again for the beginning of DreamWorks's short-lived foray into stop-motion animation.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:06:54 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#2416: Apr 22nd 2024 at 8:17:04 PM

I'm still surprised Dreamworks never did anything with El Dorado. There's no way they don't know it's a very beloved cult classic.

It can't be that they don't want to acknowledge their 2D stuff: that hasn't stopped them from giving Spirit a major return/push in the last few years.

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#2417: Apr 22nd 2024 at 8:23:56 PM

Yeah, for real, I'd watch a show about the continuing adventures of Tulio, Miguel and Chel on Netflix or Peacock or whatever.

Granted, hopefully it would be less bad than their recent attempt at continuing a cult classic of theirs as a series.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 22nd 2024 at 11:25:03 AM

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GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#2418: Apr 23rd 2024 at 12:14:51 AM

Haven't seen the Megamind sequel. Heard it's pretty bad, though.

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AdventurousYak9234 Since: Feb, 2023
#2419: Apr 23rd 2024 at 4:03:00 AM

After that movie I'm kind of wary of Dreamworks making a sequel to one of their underrated properties.

Psi001 Since: Oct, 2010
#2420: Apr 23rd 2024 at 4:25:51 AM

Isn't Megamind 2 technically just a pilot for the TV show though?

I think Kung Fu Panda 4 is a better example of a proper sequel at this point, which was considered below expectations but still pretty decent.

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#2421: Apr 23rd 2024 at 5:37:09 AM

It advertised itself as a sequel, so most people unaware of the TV show would probably think it is just a standalone sequel.

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#2422: Apr 23rd 2024 at 6:27:19 AM

> Haven't seen the Megamind sequel. Heard it's pretty bad, though.

I'm busy pretending its imaginary,it can't hurt me if I don't watch it!

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#2423: Apr 23rd 2024 at 1:53:50 PM

I was just thinking about earlier today how the three Dreamworks characters based on The Big Bad Wolf are all very different: one is a friendly crossdresser, one is a suave master thief, and one is the literal embodiment of Death.

Edited by Snicka on Apr 23rd 2024 at 10:54:23 AM

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#2424: Apr 23rd 2024 at 4:36:19 PM

Got an article from Deadline announcing Wild Robot is moving back a week to avoid competition with Transformers One.

https://deadline.com/2024/04/the-wild-robot-release-date-1235893235/

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generation81 Since: Aug, 2021
#2425: Apr 23rd 2024 at 4:40:19 PM

COWARDS.

HAVE THEY LEARNED MOTING FROM BARBENHEIMER'S SUCCESS?

GIVE US WILDFORMERS DAMN IT.


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