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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#1: Feb 12th 2011 at 4:48:37 AM

Where and when did this originate? Why did it come about? It seems to be a trend peculiar to the United States, because I've certainly not noticed it being so prevalent in the UK.

I imagine it's really just a stock response to questions of musical taste, but are there are features of both genres (such as the fact that their fan-dumb are the only ones that can the metal one ans for obnoxiousness) which set them apart enough from conventional pop music that provoke this response?

chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#2: Feb 12th 2011 at 4:50:53 AM

Because a lot of rap is just "F*CK MY B*TCH GONNA BUST A CAP IN A N*GGA'S ASS" and a lot of country is "He cheeeated ooon maaaay noow I'm gonnnaa draaaaank".

It's stereotypes, but usually pretty accurate stereotypes.

<s>can we curse here, btw?</s> brb lemme read the rules again

edited 12th Feb '11 4:57:12 AM by chocoboxxx

Litis from Israel Since: Jul, 2009
#3: Feb 12th 2011 at 5:05:19 AM

RAP IS FOR BLACK PEOPLE, COUNTRY IS FOR REDNECKS, I AM A RICH WHITEBOY FROM THE SUBURBS AND DON'T WANT TO BE DEMEANED BY LISTENING TO EITHER OF THESE GENRES.

You do know I was joking when I posted that macro, right?

^ Excessive swearing is frowned upon. If you type a well-placed "fuck" occasionally, it's okay. Using the N word is not welcome, even if you have N-Word Privileges and even if you mask the vowel (cheapest form of censorship).

edited 12th Feb '11 5:05:57 AM by Litis

chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#4: Feb 12th 2011 at 5:09:54 AM

That's not what I believe though. I don't listen to country because I don't like it (save for Johnny Cash because WHO DOESN'T like Johnny freaking Cash?) and I listen to a lot of G-funk and gangsta rap.

I was just stating the obvious.

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#5: Feb 12th 2011 at 5:50:52 AM

A lot rock/pop is just "I'M IN LOOOOOVE WITH A GIIIIIIIIRL". A lot of electronica is just "PARTY ON THE DAAAAAANCE FLOOOOOOR". A lot of blues is just "WHY YOU OPPRESSING ME WHITE MAAAAAAN". A lot of jazz is just instrumental soloing. A lot of funk is just "GET ON THE GROOVE GOTTA GIVE UP THE FUNK". A lot of heavy metal is just "SCAAAAAAARY OCCULTISM". A lot of death metal is just "BLOOD GUTS MURDER FUCK CHRISTIANITY". A lot of black metal is just "PAGANISM FUCK YEAH". A lot of power metal is just "SO FAR AWAAAAAAAY WE WAIT FOR THE DAAAAAAAAY-YAAAAAAY". A lot of punk is just "FUCK THE GOVERNMENT YAAAAAAAAAAAAAH". A lot of folk is just "SONG WRITTEN MILIONS OF YEARS AGO PLAYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN". A lot of reggae is just "RASTAFARIANISM FUCK YEAH". A lot of progressive rock is just "CONCEPTUAL CRYPTIC LYRICS WITH OVERARCHING THEEEEEEME". A lot of indie rock is just "INTROSPECTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON". A lot of classical music is just "PRAISES TO THE MOST HIGH GOOOOOOOOOOOOD".

It's stereotypes, but usually pretty accurate stereotypes.

edited 12th Feb '11 5:55:52 AM by Wicked223

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Feb 12th 2011 at 5:54:50 AM

What kind of classical do you listen to Wicked?

Classical music is all about sex.

Sex and drinking.

edited 12th Feb '11 5:55:24 AM by arks

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chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#7: Feb 12th 2011 at 5:59:30 AM

[up][up] Jeeez, man, butthurt much? Did I pick on a genre you liked or something? I'm sorry if I did but you need to CHILL with a capital EVERYTHING. This is the Internet. Don't let it control you like that. K?

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#8: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:01:58 AM

[up][up]I always thought that sacred music made up a large portion of the classical repertoire, though...

[up] First, I was simply imitating the caps lock you used when stereotyping rap, and while yes, I am a very very big hip-hop fan, that's not why I made that post.

edited 12th Feb '11 6:06:06 AM by Wicked223

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arks Boiled and Mashed Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:05:04 AM

Only up through the Renaissance, really.

After that classical music was owned by monarchs who wanted to be entertained, hence the prevalence of sex and drinking.

And death. Sex, drinking and death.

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Zyxzy Embrace the mindscrew from Salem, OR Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:13:38 AM

It's probably because those two genres are both popular in the US(and country mostly only in the US), while lacking such things as, say a history of famous and revolutionary figures and cultural significance to defend their artistic credibility.

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chocoboxxx Since: Dec, 1969
#11: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:17:42 AM

[up][up]Mozart wrote a song called "Lick My Ass". Not even kidding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch

I forgot what site said it (Cracked?) but Mozart was a die-hard corophilliac.

edited 12th Feb '11 6:19:04 AM by chocoboxxx

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#12: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:19:58 AM

And death. Sex, drinking and death.

GEE, THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE FAMILIAR

edited 12th Feb '11 6:20:15 AM by Wicked223

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TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#13: Feb 12th 2011 at 6:27:27 AM

You do know I was joking when I posted that macro, right?

Oh, absolutely. That was just what inspired the thread; it's not meant to be some kind of Take That! or anything.

I certainly hope my intentions weren't misinterpreted.

snailbait bitchy queen from psych ward Since: Jul, 2010
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#14: Feb 12th 2011 at 8:14:08 AM

People like different kinds of music. That's pretty much why such an attitude would exist...I do enjoy hip hop though.

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xexyzl Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:35:20 AM

I almost wish I could say that I hated everything but rap and country. I would feel oh so very smug.

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#16: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:37:57 AM

You shouldn't have made this thread. It was just a bad idea.

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#17: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:39:02 AM

<s>can we curse here, btw?</s> brb lemme read the rules again

No, you can never curse here ever and you will be fucking banned for trying.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:40:29 AM

<s>can we curse here, btw?</s>

Italics is done by surrounding text in double single quotes. See Text-Formatting Rules.

Oh, that's supposed to be strikethrough. Well, that's in there too.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:41:00 AM by Tzetze

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#19: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:44:29 AM

When people say "I like everything but rap and country", they almost certainly mean "I only like pop, rock, and/or metal".

My friend use to do this, but nowadays he admits to only actually listening to punk, metal, and anime music.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:47:38 AM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#20: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:48:39 AM

Is anime music even a thing?

most of it is just repurposed Japanese pop music. :|

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:51:27 AM

Well, a lot of it's made specifically for the series, but that doesn't really have anything to do with The Point.

Last time somebody asked me what I listened to, I said everything. She wanted me to elaborate, so I started listing off some jazz musicians, films I had soundtracks of, and a few electronic musicians before she stopped me to say wow, you really do listen to everything. When most people think of everything, they don't think of everything.

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#22: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:54:00 AM

@Spain: Well yes, but as far as I know he doesn't listen to any J-pop or J-rock that isn't from anime.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:54:11 AM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#23: Feb 12th 2011 at 1:20:02 PM

When people say "I like everything but rap and country", they almost certainly mean "I only like pop, rock, and/or metal".

A lot of people who say it are probably casual music fans who would most likely include metal alongside rap and country if it came to mind, but I imagine most casual music fans who don't make a point of listening to something aren't really exposed to metal.

Most metal or classic rock fans (especially the self-important twelve year old ones who seem to crop up a lot on You Tube to express their disturbing attitudes toward Justin Bieber) would undoubtedly threaten you quite childishly if you used the word "pop" in the same sentence as "rock" or "metal" without being derogatory about it.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Feb 12th 2011 at 1:45:13 PM

I said, "and/or" for a reason...

edited 12th Feb '11 1:45:22 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#25: Feb 12th 2011 at 1:58:34 PM

Nyktos: Well that's odd.

Although, from what I understand (and I should note that I'm not an expert on the subject) J-Pop and J-Rock are genres, while "Japanese Pop Music" is just Pop Music. In Japanese.

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