What would you do in this murder case?

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I'd disagree, I think it's possible for someone to do things so reprehensible to me that I would revel in their own suffering.

But as a rule, I'm against that. I'm a quick and clean snuff type of person. No mess, no drama, just get them out of our world.

For the usual run of the mill horrors I usually go death penalty.

This woman's a monster. Stick her in genpop. There are plenty of mothers in there who'd be happy to avenge the girl.

Or Mad's suggestion of an oubliette. I like that.

I might feel some sort of satisfaction from such a thing as well. However, what does it say about me as a person if I am taking pleasure in their pain? What real benefit does it bring me in return for letting me know that about myself? While I may be overstating it slightly, at the root of the matter I see no gain for anyone by making someone suffer. While a threat to society being removed is acceptable, pointless punishment is not.

@Bur I'd suggest the use of a guillotine or a good ol' fashioned hanging.

"I don't like the prolonging of suffering, even for those who deserve it. End her miserable life and get it over with is my vote" - Barkey

Huh? Why not just give her the option of killing herself in jail if she so chooses rather than having society decide for her?

As for the sentence, I'm surprised they'd even be considering the death penalty for this. I thought even for heinous crimes women tended to be sentenced more leniantly than men.

edited 11th Feb '11 9:06:36 PM by neoYTPism

I don't really worry about it, I'm already a monster, I don't rate myself on a curve.

@Neo Surprised? You do know what she did to her daughter, right?

Well, I get the jist of it... prolonged cruel abuse eventually culminating in death.

From what I've heard, however, in the context of crime women tended to be sentenced more leniantly than men because they supposedly don't need to be deterred as much.

@Neo I would agree with that, but this is clearly an exception to the general rule.

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Not this bitch.

Meh, I don't like the idea of people rotting in jail for life, sucking away at tax dollars. Either find a way for prisoners deserving of death row to produce some income, or just smoke em all.

And none of this 30 years of appeals so they can die of old age shit. That needs to stop.

And also none of that "lets use a special and exotic chemical to kill them when there's tons of equally painless and much cheaper ways of doing it" crap.

edited 11th Feb '11 9:11:09 PM by Barkey

"Either find a way for prisoners deserving of death row to produce some income, or just smoke em all." - Barkey

Sentencing them to hard labour might do the former. Or maybe make them donate blood every once in a while, which would have a medical rather than financial benefit.

See, you never know what you can get out of prisoners by keeping them alive. Just saying to kill them just doesn't strike me as a good idea, especially when it's not the kind of thing you can reverse if you change your mind.

^^ That kinda sums up my feelings on the matter more than the moral obligations. Punishment is wasteful and if it costs something, why do it?

Not like lethal injections are painless anyway, but that's a different topic.

edited 11th Feb '11 9:16:46 PM by Arha

I'm all for one or two appeals, but not for them to take decades.

I wouldn't "keep them around" until I could figure that out. That's so simple that we should be doing that already, too bad there's so many people who've done or do drugs in prison.

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Killing someone should be cheaper than holding them for decades.

edited 11th Feb '11 9:16:52 PM by Barkey

Why don't we put our prisoners to work doing hard labor?

Because that's inhumane or some bullshit.

Because we're pussies. "Oh, that's so cruel to do that to them!" when it's a serial murderer. Bleeding heart pussies.. -_-

Our nation has no nerve left anymore.

@Barkey I don't see how it's crueler than killing them; at the very least, they would be serving some sort of purpose.

It would also create a perverse incentive for using convicts as cheap labor.

^ could always use 'em to sweep for landmines.

That's really more of a reason to end prison privatization than anything. Once we have that conflict of interest out of the way, we would probably have a better idea of what we're doing.

This...really tests my belief in the inhumanity of the death penalty. There's no way this woman should cost the state a cent. Hard labor and blood donations for the rest of her unhappy life is what I recommend.

Just...fucking wow.

Also I fully expected this to be Salem. Apparently it was Bend.

I probably wouldn't go for death penalty, but only because it would ultimately cost more than to oubliette her ass for life.

She'll likely cost the state far more if she does get the death penalty than she would for getting life in prison. (This not even factoring in the almost inevitable and relatively inexpensive death-by-shank she would likely end up getting along with a life sentence.)

Unless she got the DP and chose not to appeal. Given that the woman would have to be abso-fucking-lutely psychotic to do the kind of things she did, I guess it's hard to predict how she'd react.

I hope the husband gets the same penalty she does. To just stand by and do nothing while someone that crazy tortures your child? That takes its own breed of monster.

edited 11th Feb '11 10:39:36 PM by Meeble

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To just stand by and do nothing while someone that crazy tortures your child? That takes its own breed of monster.

Well, stepchild. He has a son with her, and she has a daughter by a third father. Neither was visibly abused.

If they were both his, you could hypothesize that she was torturing that one girl as a proxy, and he wasn't defending her because she wasn't his offspring, but no. The evil is actually fairly inexplicable, as far as I can tell.