Tough Love Boot Camps

That sounds downright cult-like.

That sounds slightly unbelievable. Because forcing someone to inhale ammonia until they die is kinda murder.

Believe it or not, it's legit.

I had an experience involving inhaling ammonia, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone else. That shit is plain horrific.

Fun fact: The smelling salts of Victorian times were also ammonia.

Something about the incredibly strong smell that forces you awake, not sure how it does that, though.

Okay found it - it triggers an inhalation reflex, so you end up waking up. NOT RECOMMENDED ANYMORE if you come across an unconscious person; you may screw up an injury or something.

edited 11th Feb '11 5:58:59 PM by pvtnum11

That stuff is so garbage.. It gives good and positive places like Sunburst a bad name.

Then again Sunburst isn't out in the boonies, it's not a camp. It's an Academy in the actual city, so they can't hide as much crap.

Awesome program is awesome.

This is the type of shit I signed up in the Guard to do, breach the barriers between military and civilian life, and try to help our community. This is a great program.

edited 11th Feb '11 6:18:02 PM by Barkey

NH4Cl to be exact.

edited 11th Feb '11 6:30:28 PM by rmctagg09

Barkey: Sunburst doesn't really seem like the kind of facility that's being discussed here.

It's more of a rehab/juvie alternative.

It's mostly pitched to parents with children who are out of control and involved with the Los Angeles area gangs, the type who start slipping off in the middle of the night against their parents wishes and doing stupid shit.

So yeah, a rehab/juvie alternative.

I went to juvie itself for a short time (long story behind that, but we'll skip it for now) and far more than the guards, rehabilitation folks, etc., my fellow delinquents were the things that made me want to not associate with that kind of person anymore.

And I have not committed a crime since. (Sans online pirating, if you count that.)

edited 11th Feb '11 6:59:13 PM by SpainSun

The mentoring program is really good as well, you get a mentor tailored to a specific cadet and keep in touch with them even past graduation of the academy, it's sort of like a big brother thing.

I'm considering getting into the program. I've visited the Academy and basically done "ride alongs" with friends of mine who are instructors there, it's a really nice place. The staff seem to really connect with the kids.

edited 11th Feb '11 7:01:04 PM by Barkey

Ah, I've always kind of wanted to go into one of those things. The big brother things, I mean.

But given my current lack of wicked activities, I've no reason to.

So, anyone up for infiltrating and busting a straight camp? You only get a few chances at being The Hero...

If the price is right.

Ok I am all for some discipline and such in youth but those examples are fairly barbaric. You can not structure youth camps like the military ones. Not exactly a good idea if your trying to fix a problem or teach your child a valuable life lesson.

That one example is so extreme as to be outright torture.

I like the sound of the academy I wish the northern half of our city had that.

Barkey: Ever the mercenary. Question is even if we raided the camps we would have to deal with police, then FBI on kidnapping charges and what would we do with the rescuee's? How would you handle all of that?

That's if you get caught, and that's only if you leave witnesses.

Slaughter the folks working at the camp while wearing something to obscure the face, then drop the kids off a few blocks from the police station and tell them to walk there, good times.

TV Tropes couldn't afford to put me on retainer though. :(

edited 11th Feb '11 11:24:35 PM by Barkey

Lol. They could take up a collection :P Your the man with the plan Let me go get my LBV and some random dark clothing :P

I am wondering where the sentiment for these camps came from.

edited 12th Feb '11 12:19:38 AM by TuefelHundenIV

I meant an infiltration, like, we get in, take some notes, and then bust em.

I have too much gray hair showing - long gone are the days I could be mistaken for a teenager.

^^

Is underkill a word?

Straight camps? So we're going to pull a Son Tay raid with gay people?

well, something needs to be done. We cannot do violence, no matter how much the camp owners would deserve it. Infiltrate, Take Notes, then Bust is the best course of action, such that we won't need to do anything criminal.

@Nick: You may be interested in this. They're pretty cool people, and there's a lot more info to be found there.

thanks.