Follow TV Tropes

Following

TTGL Syndrome?

Go To

Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#301: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:16:32 PM

As I remember, no one knew that Simon's mental stability was not at it's top condition, and only simon saw the kiss so they wouldn't know there was any problem.

AS for the kiss thing, Simon's 14. Of course it's gonna affect him if someone he has feelings for has feelings for someone else.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:16:42 PM by Thenamelesssamurai

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#302: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:16:53 PM

@Clawshrimpy:

even when Simon "gets better" he just becomes a carbon copy of Kamina anyway.
No, he doesn't, and the fact that you claim he does shows just how little you bothered to pay attention to the show. He didn't become what Kamina was, he became what Kamina wished he could be — what Kamina died so Simon could become. That's the whole point of the whole fucking show.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:17:24 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
Vorpy Unstoppable Sex Goddess from from from from from from from from from Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Two-timing
Unstoppable Sex Goddess
#303: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:18:39 PM

Since you are ignoring every question I am asking you, evading every good point we make, and bringing up a new "problem" everytime we show you whats going on, I am just going to say "Fuck this thread" and move along and block it. It's obviously just a place for you to hate and stupidly rant about how much you hate Gurren Lagann, and I would rather just shitpost in Yackfest than let somebody's annoyingly persistent opinions eat all of my time.

Sorry you hate Gurren Lagann, but I would rather not tilt at windmills forever.

Troper Page
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#304: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:21:20 PM

If it makes you feel better Vorp, I'm still waiting for him to answer my question.

#IceBearForPresident
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#305: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:23:10 PM

I answered your guy's questions, you just don't think it counts because I walked away from the show with a very very different experience than the rest of you.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:26:57 PM by Clawshrimpy

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#306: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:29:04 PM

No, you've just plain ignored plenty of things. And I think it's rather obvious by now that the reason you had a different experience of the show is that you went into it with the intention of hating it.

Incidentally, I really feel like rewatching Gurren Lagann now.

I guess it is.
Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
I'm glasses.
#307: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:31:37 PM

This thread makes me want to kill people. I really think it ought to be locked.

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#308: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:32:31 PM

Oh please. I'm not talking about you not answering one of the myriad of questions about Gurren Lagann, I meant the question about whether you actually believe the drabble you have been stating.

Edit: ^ Agreed, this isn't going anywhere and I fear the impression it might leave

edited 12th Feb '11 10:33:54 PM by Spirit

#IceBearForPresident
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#309: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:33:51 PM

[up][up][up]What? at most I was colored because of what people were saying about other mecha shows in comparison, which is the whole reason I even bothered with this thread at all. I have an aversion to heavy fanservice, an aversion to "turn your brain off" action pieces, and an aversion to Studio Gainax as a whole because EVA left a sour taste in my mouth from IT'S hype.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:34:19 PM by Clawshrimpy

Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#310: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:35:48 PM

Simon is unreliable for more than half the show, he comes off as a "Shinji Ikari 2.0" and it's hard for him to be reliable for aything

Ohhhhh boy. I'll accept partially unrealiable, but as someone pointed out they are not trained military personal, so I'd say that lack of discipline is to be expected.

As for the for the Shinji Ikari comment. No. Just no. Shinji Ikari's motivation is based primarily in the fact in his inferiority complex, where he defines himself as an Eva pilot as his defining part of his identity. Yes both started out passive and meek, but they are very different. Shinji does what he does for psychological validation and because someone told him too. Simon on the other hand is a normal kid who has some self confidence issues, but his motivation is different from shinji's. Yeah he starts out as unreliable, but the quote "I'm scared, but I couldn't stand it even more if I let you die" (or something to that effect, it was around episode 2-3) is very different from the attitude Shinji would take. I find that comparison to be not fair at all and rather superficial.

Also, from what I remember you had said you had only seen a handful of Evangelion, so please what the rest of the series before making that comparison.

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#311: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:38:13 PM

Why should what one person or a bunch of people say about a show have anything to do with enjoying it? So what if they think it's awesome? If you don't like you don't like it. I just don't understand how anything anyone says about a show should have any factor in my enjoying said show.

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#312: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:41:03 PM

[up]When they make disgusting blanket comment about other mecha shows that I find offensive, it makes me upset.

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#313: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:41:46 PM

And that somehow means Gurren Lagann is a bad show?

And seriously, if people insulting your favourite giant robot cartoons legitimately offends you, there's something wrong.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:43:19 PM by Nyktos

I guess it is.
Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#314: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:42:11 PM

I answered your guy's questions, you just don't think it counts because I walked away from the show with a very very different experience than the rest of you.

No. What happened is both sides have argued their points, but because the basic assumptions on both sides are different,there really can be no resolution to any of this arguing because the base assumptions seem to be incompatible with each other, and neither side has provided the other side with good enough reasons (in the other sides mind) to change those assumptions.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:42:35 PM by Thenamelesssamurai

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#315: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:43:23 PM

What? at most I was colored because of what people were saying about other mecha shows in comparison, which is the whole reason I even bothered with this thread at all.

So you just wanted to state how much you hated the many numbskulls blindly praising what you percieved as a average show at best? Ok, that's an innocent enough intent, it's the persistance (among other things) thats pissing people off.

I have an aversion to heavy fanservice, an aversion to "turn your brain off" action pieces,

Ok, thank you. You've confessed that this show is not for you. Why do you need to keep stating that?  *

and an aversion to Studio Gainax as a whole because EVA left a sour taste in my mouth from IT'S hype.

So you unfairly judge this show not only on it's own merits (which you already stated that you don't like its contents) but because of another show that is its opposite in almost every way and because it's made by the same studio as that show?

#IceBearForPresident
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#316: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:50:02 PM

[up]Yeah, and whenever I try to present my opinion of "I feel Gurren Lagann was a step in the wrong direction back towards the 1970s, rather than the innovations that 1990's Takara/Sunrise Super Robot shows gave us." I generally get picked apart precisely because I happen to not like a super-popular show.

Secondly, if you look at the meta-community surrounding TTGL, it's like the 90s EVA crowd all over again.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:50:35 PM by Clawshrimpy

Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#317: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:51:21 PM

[up][up][up][up]Hey, I somehow offend people for not liking TTGL. *shrug*

Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#318: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:53:38 PM

[up]When they make disgusting blanket comment about other mecha shows that I find offensive, it makes me upset.

Fine. We all have our Berserk buttons. People who give shit to Shinji Ikari piss me off, because I honestly don't believe that his character deserves that (That and I connect with him very well). However, I still fail to see how this would colour a work for anyone. If other fans are hating on another show just because it isn't their favourite show, that's a prick move and stupid. A portion of the Naruto fandom I've found to be annoying as all get out, but that hasn't stopped me from enjoying the merits of it on its own.

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#319: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:55:15 PM

[up][up]No, you offend people for shitting over something they enjoy just because they haven't paid the requisite amount of adulation to your favourite show yet.

There is a not-insignificant difference.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:55:33 PM by Iaculus

What's precedent ever done for us?
Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#320: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:55:42 PM

Hey, I somehow offend people for not liking TTGL. *shrug*

No. No one gives a shit that you don't like Gurren Lagann. It's been said in the gundam topic its the way you present your ideas.

edited 12th Feb '11 10:56:04 PM by Thenamelesssamurai

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#321: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:56:08 PM

[up][up][up]Hell look at this very thread. look at how many people now hate Gao Gai Gar now because they think I'm a stupid Fan Hater?

hell, go look in the real robot topic, they did the same with Armored Trooper VOTOMS

edited 12th Feb '11 10:56:59 PM by Clawshrimpy

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#322: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:57:18 PM

I feel the need to point to Lizard Bite's post, here:

I am always searching for new stories to try out, and many things can catch my interest. While I have heard of Gao Gai Gar before, I had not ever the chance to actually watch it— too much to do. But I am confident that, at some point in the future, I may have decided to try it out.

Then I read this thread.

Herein, I encountered someone who declared Gao Gai Gar superior to TTGL. "Interesting, " I thought. "Perhaps I should check this show out." Then this same someone continued, willfully ignoring other people's points, insulting the intelligence of anyone who enjoyed TTGL, taking a frankly immature approach to the issue of sexuality, applying a constantly changing Personal Dictionary so as to avoid giving TTGL any credit whatsoever... And frankly, any desire I may have had to watch GGG is gone.

I shall never watch Gao Gai Gar, my friends. After reading through this thread, there is nothing about the show that I can possibly find appealing now. The TTGL fanbase is not nearly as willfully ignorant as... this. Yes, there are a number of fans who are blind and ignorant, but at least they seem to be having a good time, and in the end, I suppose that happiness is the ultimate goal of all beings.

That, I feel, is the best way of demonstrating that somebody has throughly lost an internet argument. Somebody who, initially, agreed with you, or at least was interested in your point of view, but after reading your arguments, ends up steeling his mind against you; dismissing not just you, but your entire viewpoint.

Internet arguments are not won when the other side stops posting. They're won when everybody else, even those who were initially against you, agree that you're right.

edited 12th Feb '11 11:00:42 PM by Gilphon

Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#323: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:57:20 PM

@Clawshrimpy:

Yeah, and whenever I try to present my opinion of "I feel Gurren Lagann was a step in the wrong direction back towards the 1970s, rather than the innovations that 1990's Takara/Sunrise Super Robot shows gave us." I generally get picked apart precisely because I happen to not like a super-popular show.
Or because your entire argument boils down to "I think there should be more shows I like. Why do anime studios make shows I don't like?"

I guess it is.
Clawshrimpy Fight me, Primevals! Since: Nov, 2010
Fight me, Primevals!
#324: Feb 12th 2011 at 10:59:32 PM

[up]What's so terribly offensive about this? if you want pathological hate for Gurren Lagann, post a TTGL thread on /m/ sometime. I'm nowhere near as bad as that.

edited 12th Feb '11 11:00:34 PM by Clawshrimpy

Thenamelesssamurai from Atlanta, Georgia Since: Nov, 2010
#325: Feb 12th 2011 at 11:02:08 PM

Hell look at this very thread. look at how many people now hate Gao Gai Gar now because they think I'm a stupid Fan Hater?

And I honestly find this to be a problem and if they take this view I find it to be wrong. Just because they didn't like the way you presented your arguments doesn't mean that they should give up on the show you're preaching about.

And Honestly, when I first started watching you post I got the impression that you were in fact a fan hater.

Imagine Rakan applying Calling Your Attacks to doing paperwork.~Anarchy Rakan for the hell of it COMMISSION THIS BRIDGE!~EHK

Total posts: 381
Top