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Actually, it was more akin to a Catholic college. Abroad, in Italy. She went there at the age of 17-18. To learn the language and become a "proper lady". It worked, though not in the way my grandmother hoped

edited 20th Aug '14 3:30:20 PM by LogoP

Relevant:

@Logo Oh? Is that a common thing? I never went to any school that involved teaching me to be a "proper lady" I guess your aunt was from a different generation though?

Oh yes. That was in the 60s. In Greece, of all places.

edited 20th Aug '14 3:52:49 PM by LogoP

@Logo Oh the 60s make it make more sense yes. My parents were kids in the 50s/60s (duh I guess) my dad just had to deal with being taught by nuns which seems odd now though (I'm so used to Catholic schools just being taught by laypeople)

Logo: oh interesting. Your aunt was that hardcore left wing atheist even as a teenager then?

edited 21st Aug '14 7:23:25 AM by joeyjojo

A Word for the Struggler.

This is what a user on these forums (who will remain unnamed) said, and it's been bothering me.

I don't mean to import drama, which is why I didn't name the user or the thread, but...

I told you I didn't think this site was safe...

edited 21st Aug '14 3:11:00 PM by BaffleBlend

Actually, no. She didn't really care much about that stuff when she was in her teens. The times she spent on the Catholic College made her much more hardcore & involved into politics.

Their opinion. It's extreme, yes, but they are entitled to have it. The way I see it you can: 1) respond with similarly extreme & exaggerated rhetoric 2) try to rebuff them in a polite, calm and logic-driven way or 3) ignore the above (and obviously inflammatory) statement altogether.

Not need to get upset over it. And, no, a couple of posters like this don't render this site "unsafe".

edited 21st Aug '14 2:59:18 PM by LogoP

How I did respond; I acknowledged that The Troubles were awful and never should have happened, but then asked why he was yelling at me for it.

The topic changed before the user could reply.

At which thread was that posted again? It'll be nice to see the context of that post.

That would probably violate the "importing/exporting drama" rule...

Mod Hat ON

Mentioning it in this thread is right on the edge of violating that rule, Baffle. If you think they were out of line, use the Holler button in that post and the mods will take a look at it.

But nobody promised you that you'd be safe from reading things you don't like here.

Right. So change topic! Why does some speculation about the new heaven and new earth sound like the speculators read too many comics? Though some of said speculation was from the medieval era. e.g. agility which sounds like Super-Speed.

I haven't really seen any speculation on that topic. Care to specify?

I think depictions of heaven say a lot more about the cultural proclivities of the depicters than they do about God. If there is a heaven, I sincerely doubt it would resemble any earthly depiction.

Live in Love.

Yes I think people want to think they would know what heaven looks like, maybe to make it less unknown (with hints of what they would think a utopia is like).

Bit of an abrupt topic shift - sorry! - but I remembered the discussion we had in this thread some time ago about contemporary Christian art which is better than "not terrible", and I realised that while I had mentioned Wings Of Dawn I had completely forgotten about the Mars Diaries series (shorter books by the same author).

I bring this up months later because shush. :P

I also picked up an anthology by Arthur Machen recently - an author of Christian horror and fantasy from the 1900s - which, I was pleasantly surprised to discover, has a preface written by Guillermo del Toro. *_*

"If there were no Catholics and no Protestants..." Yadda, yadda, yadda.

I guess my answer to that would be, "Race causes a lot of problems, too. Wouldn't it be great if there were no race? Like, if all the members of one race cooperated to kill the other races? Oh, wait... there are a lot of differences between men and women, too. Maybe one gender ought to figure out how to make babies with science and raise them in tanks, and they we could get rid of the bothersome 'gender difference' issue. Oh, you say those things aren't a 'choice' but that religion is a 'choice?' We'll ignore some of that pesky 'ways people are raised' and 'what is legal and illegal in certain societies' stuff... here's where I say that some people (rational, pragmatic people) prefer non-fiction literature to fiction. Perhaps if all of those fiction-lovers were forced to get their heads out of the clouds, we could have a rational, non-escapist society where we all agree on the same things. You want to keep fiction? Fine. Perhaps in the absence of 'important' differences such as religion, politics and background, mankind will have the great Video Game Console Wars."

Bottom line: You can't force "how to think" on people. People will always have differences. Humans are capable of making anything srs biznuz and fighting over it.

I've been in Fandom. I've seen Shipping. While not religion, it might as well be. The only reason why shipwars rarely result in real-world bloodshed is that it's confined to "Internet geeky hobby" and we haven't created Internet portal technology yet.

Now, where did all this come from?

edited 23rd Aug '14 12:10:21 AM by LogoP

You would be surprised.

Btw, I would not have the courage to say that in an atheist dominated forum/thread/discussion, I doubt I would get out of there alive. Or at the very least, I would be ridicularized beyond belief, and banned too.

edited 23rd Aug '14 12:38:42 AM by PersistentMan

I do not believe that's true. When it comes to TV Tropes, at least.

I'm not sure if that would work. One person's "way of being raised" is another person's "ha ha totally brainwashed".

(And yes, I actually have made the connection between fandom conflict and religious conflict before... which honestly makes me kind of worried because how can something so trivial induce similar behavior something we see as important?)

A post I saw about someone's opinion on The Troubles which is waaay buried in the back pages of another thread now.

edited 23rd Aug '14 4:32:59 AM by BaffleBlend

Keeping Darkness at Bay.