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In a DC crossover, I can see Morlun getting interested on Animal Man more than on anyone else. Granted, he might be biting more than he can chew there, but it's not like he wouldn't deserve it.
Yeah Morlun used to go after other Totems till Slott made him and his family spiders only.
There were some other people after the Totems in JMS's run, too.
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In one of the spiderverse tie-ins, Morlun's beefier brother was seen gorging on various animal totems.
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The delicious furries of Counter-Earth.
Inverted villains from Axis will make their own version of the Thunderbolts.
Congrats, Jennix. You've made the Jackal your bitch.
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Wut?
He's ruler of a world seemingly populated entirely by clones, which was one of the Jackal's failed ambitions.
Also, Dat face. And wordplay
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Why can't he be the new protector of New York? At least Hobgoblin doesn't make deals with Satan for petty reasons.
Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Well, not this Hobgoblin, anyway.
Suddenly, the Sandman.
Since Sandman usually was a less ruthless villain than most others in Spidey's Rogues Gallery, shouldn't an axis shift make him... I dunno, a cruel, petty and vicious antihero?
I don't think Sandman was affected by the inversions. He wasn't on Genosha, from what I can recall.
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neither was the plunderer but cap and the might avengers said he was.
The Plunderer was on the island in secret, in order to do some plundering. It'd be tough to justify Sandman having been there secretly, too. And the preview suggests he wasn't there, and wasn't inverted.
Sandman has been a hero before - part of the Avengers at one point, if I'm not mistaken.
Could just be opportunity knocking and Sandman deciding to answer.
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And it was a stupid retcon that turned him back into a villain because writers have a hard on for the way things were when they were kids.
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It was also done in the post-Clone Saga era where the Spider-editors and writers were desperate to figure out how to bring readers back. One of the major issues with the Clone Saga was that a lot of classic Spider-Man villains were hamhandedly killed off, reformed, or otherwise taken out of play - Doc Ock was the most obvious, but over the years a lot of others had met similar fates (the original Hobgoblin had just been sent off to the Bahamas just after having his identity revealed, for instance, and was seen as redundant to the newly returned Osborn). So, lots of old villains getting reverted back to "classic" status just in case the lack of good villains was a factor in the titles' decline.
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Aw that's cute they couldn't see the forest for the trees
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'Cause God knows, the writers of the top comics company in the industry for the hottest-selling hero OF ALL TIME couldn't come up with new fucking villains.
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There's the other edge of the sword, though: Spidey's Rogues Gallery is so classic that nobody likes it when new villains move in. 
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Its always something like bringing back classic villains or getting rid of Mary Jane and never something like 'just write good stories and don't jerk the readers around for two years'
Because that would be the hard thing to do.
Hobgoblin was new...ish. He caught on. Venom, Carnage. Ugh Morlun for some reason. New villains can catch on.
edited 28th Nov '14 10:51:31 PM by Bocaj
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Legacy characters are also a thing - creating new versions of classic villains without rolling back good character development.
Or even just making sure not to undo the good character development while rolling back the bad stuff.
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Anything other than "just make it the way it was."
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edited 21st Nov '14 2:18:38 PM by kkhohoho