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Grain Only One Avatar from South Northwest Earth Since: Oct, 2009
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#1: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:27:00 PM

On Topic discusses politics fairly often. We define ourselves as left-wing, right-wing, and the occasional libertarian. When people take online tests, they sometimes feel that the results/questions are too generalized. Well, this quiz can give you 20 different ideologies. It explains your precise position in the quadrants very thoroughly compared to other online tests. It's 16 questions long. It would be fascinating to know which kinds of liberals and conservatives (and all the other things) we have on this forum.

My results were -7.5, 5.5.

  • System: Socialism
  • Ideology: Libertarian Socialism
  • Party: No match.
  • Closest President: Jimmy Carter
  • 04' Election: David Cobb
  • 08' Election: Dennis Kucinich

My results compared to other quiz takers:

  • 1% are close to you.
  • 92% are more conservative.
  • 0% are more liberal.
  • 0% are more socialist.
  • 6% are more authoritarian.

This was interesting, since I'd thought that "libertarianism" and "socialism" were unmixable opposites. If you care to see the description for Libertarian Socialism, I'll spoiler it.

Libertarian Socialism is an extreme form of Moral Socialism.

It is a political philosophy dedicated to opposing what its advocates regard as illegitimate forms of authority and social hierarchy (Non Conformance), most famously the institution of government.

It has gone by various names: libertarian communism, anarcho-communism, left-anarchism, and, most commonly, anarchism.

Libertarian socialists therefore believe in the abolition of private property (Interdependence) in the means of production and abolition of the state as an unnecessary and harmful institution (Non Conformance).

edited 25th Jan '11 3:52:16 PM by Grain

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saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#2: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:30:54 PM

Your scored 2 on Moral Order and -5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Conservatism 2. Ideology: Capital Republicanism, Conservative Neo Liberalism 3. Party: Republican Party 4. Presidents: Richard Nixon 5. 04' Election: George W. Bush 6. 08' Election: John Mc Cain

Of the 659,200 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

1. 5% are close to you. 2. 4% are more conservative. 3. 9% are more liberal. 4. 69% are more socialist. 5. 9% are more authoritarian.

Thats no surprise but a lot of the questions were truly poorly written. :V

edited 25th Jan '11 3:31:40 PM by saladofstones

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
Grain Only One Avatar from South Northwest Earth Since: Oct, 2009
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#3: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:33:03 PM

I was caught between 2 answers on a couple of the questions, but I thought they were the best I've seen on the internet. In addition, I greatly appreciated the inclusion of a "none of the above" answer.

edited 25th Jan '11 3:34:00 PM by Grain

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saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#4: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:34:24 PM

Oh wait it was another facebook thing.

The more I look at this the more its pretty skewed.

edited 25th Jan '11 3:35:06 PM by saladofstones

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:39:06 PM

....What.

I was rated as a liberal. The fuck...?

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Grain Only One Avatar from South Northwest Earth Since: Oct, 2009
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#6: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:44:06 PM

[up] "Liberal" is not even listed as one of the 20 answers. The point of this test is to remove the basic run-of-the-mill generalizations. What is the name of your listed ideology?

edited 25th Jan '11 3:48:24 PM by Grain

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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#7: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:44:30 PM

YOUR SCORE

Your scored 0 on Moral Order and -6 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Conservatism, Liberalism
2. Ideology: Conservative Neo Liberalism, Progressive Neo Liberalism
3. Party: Republican Party
4. Presidents: Ronald Reagan
5. 04' Election: Michael Badnarik
6. 08' Election: Ron Paul

Of the 659,207 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

1. 4% are close to you.
2. 3% are more conservative.
3. 2% are more liberal.
4. 56% are more socialist.
5. 22% are more authoritarian.

It's called libertarianism motherfuckers. Get the government out of people's lives and in adherence to the powers granted to it by the Constitution and no further.

Ronald Reagan was no surprise, though Ron Paul in 2008? I would have given him greater consideration had he not been a wacko isolationist. The 2004 results are widely different than how I voted. I voted for Bush in 2004 because I wanted a leader (especially in regards to foreign policy) who was not an elitist jackass and a wuss when challenged.

edited 25th Jan '11 3:46:45 PM by MajorTom

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#8: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:45:34 PM

"System: Conservatism Ideology: Capital Republicanism Party: Republican Party Presidents: Richard Nixon 04' Election: George W. Bush 08' Election: John Mc Cain

Of the 659,204 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

4% are close to you. 7% are more conservative. 18% are more liberal. 65% are more socialist. 6% are more authoritarian."

A pretty decent quiz as far as this type of thing goes, but this draws too close a connection between morals and politics.

saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#9: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:45:52 PM

The fuck? How can you be conservative AND liberal? And Conservative AND progressive neo liberalism?

I think you broke it. :V

edited 25th Jan '11 3:46:37 PM by saladofstones

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
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#10: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:47:37 PM

[up] Keep in mind how muddled the definitions of "conservative" and "liberal" are when it comes to politics. Conservative libertarians fit pretty closely with Classical Liberalism, for instance.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#11: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:47:50 PM

The explanatory hints often seem rather contradictory to the statements your'e supposed to choose from. For instance, "You should get the health care you are ready to pay for." ends up actually meaning "Basic health care should be provided to all, but extra health care should be available to you if you want it."

That said,

You scored -1.5 on Moral Order and -2.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

1. System: Liberalism
2. Ideology: Capital Democratism
3. Party: Democratic Party
4. Presidents: Bill Clinton
5. 04' Election: John Kerry
6. 08' Election: Barrack Obama

1. 7% are close to you.
2. 21% are more conservative.
3. 8% are more liberal.
4. 41% are more socialist.
5. 26% are more authoritarian.

lolwut

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:48:22 PM

I would guess that by liberal it means classical liberal, which is something like American economic libertarianism.

Ninja'd.

edited 25th Jan '11 3:48:53 PM by Tzetze

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saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#13: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:49:14 PM

Looking at their matrix it should be impossible to get some of these results since they are on opposite sides of the spectrum, in fact, some are direct opposites.

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
aishkiz Slayer of Threads from under the stairs Since: Nov, 2010
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#14: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:50:40 PM

Meh.

It puts me at around -2.5, 0, close to a number of ideologies (liberal, socialist...) and seems to measure mostly personal views.

You learn marginally less than you do from my political compass score (which is about +0.45 Economic, -8.69 Social, I think), and very little if anything about my actual ideology from either. None of the important questions were asked.

It's also somewhat US-centric, lacks detail and makes various assumptions (belief in God apparently makes you more conservative?)

edited 25th Jan '11 3:51:00 PM by aishkiz

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Roman Love Freak Since: Jan, 2010
#15: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:51:18 PM

Kind of have to agree.

System: Liberalism

Ideology: Capital Democratism

Party: Democratic Party

Presidents: Bill Clinton

04' Election: Michael Badnarik

08' Election: Ron Paul

Of the 659,209 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

3% are close to you.

13% are more conservative.

3% are more liberal.

32% are more socialist.

36% are more authorian

edited 25th Jan '11 3:52:27 PM by Roman

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:51:51 PM

I might actually take one of these if it was geared for Indian politics or something.

@saladofstones: Well, people aren't always consistent.

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Accela Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
#17: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:56:20 PM

Your scored -3.5 on Moral Order and 2 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Socialism

Ideology: Social Democratism

Party: No match.

Presidents: Jimmy Carter

04' Election: David Cobb

08' Election: Barrack Obama

Of the 659,214 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

7% are close to you.

59% are more conservative.

10% are more liberal.

10% are more socialist.

10% are more authoritarian.

Bwahaha, no party wants me. Not very surprised about this (except for the David Cobb bit, don't know anything about him other than that he was on the Green Party ballot).

edited 25th Jan '11 3:58:30 PM by Accela

Grain Only One Avatar from South Northwest Earth Since: Oct, 2009
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#18: Jan 25th 2011 at 3:59:17 PM

aishkiz: A test like this can't be nation-neutral, since different nations have different political terminology.

edited 25th Jan '11 3:59:36 PM by Grain

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Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#19: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:01:16 PM

You scored -1.5 on Moral Order

and -2.5 on Moral Rules

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Liberalism

Ideology: Capital Democratism

Party: Democratic Party

Presidents: Bill Clinton

04' Election: John Kerry

08' Election: Barrack Obama

Of the 659,221 respondents (11,708 on Facebook):

7% are close to you.

21% are more conservative.

8% are more liberal.

41% are more socialist.

26% are more authoritarian.


Wrong, wrong, wrong. It asked far too few questions.

edited 25th Jan '11 4:02:08 PM by Talby

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#20: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:01:42 PM

Come to think of it, it seems like their questions leave little room for any kind of conservatism response at all except total lassiez-faire economics, Stay in the Kitchen, and cartoonish racism.

^ Hey, those are exactly the same stats I got.

edited 25th Jan '11 4:02:42 PM by Pykrete

saladofstones :V from Happy Place Since: Jan, 2011
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#21: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:02:39 PM

I figured that when they put authoritarianism as the opposite of socialism.

Its another facebook pool, I didn't have big expectations for it.

edited 25th Jan '11 4:03:07 PM by saladofstones

Well he's talking about WWII when the Chinese bomb pearl harbor and they commuted suicide by running their planes into the ship.
Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#22: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:03:02 PM

Yeah, that's the problem with a lot of these ideology tests. Many of them are loaded questions designed to get a leftist response.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#23: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:04:12 PM

Your scored -4.5 on Moral Order and 1.5 on Moral Rules.

The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible): System: Socialism Ideology: Social Democratism Party: No match. Presidents: Jimmy Carter 04' Election: David Cobb 08' Election: Barrack Obama, Dennis Kucinich

I'm a dirty socialist!

edited 25th Jan '11 4:04:41 PM by thatguythere47

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jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#24: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:04:17 PM

Didn't we debunk the two-axis measurement system a while ago, on the grounds that it still leaves out important aspects (there's no morality axis, for instance), conflates very different things (corporate interests and individual interests, for instance), and represents as independent factors that are actually connected?

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#25: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:05:36 PM

Okay, now I've actually read the OP, wait a second.

Well, this quiz can give you 20 different ideologies. It explains your precise position in the quadrants very thoroughly compared to other online tests. It's 16 questions long.

Political Compass, an old standby for this crap, has six (short) pages of questions. How is a 16-question test supposed to be more accurate?

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