The Arab Spring

If ISIS gets its own thread, post link here.

edited 24th Sep '14 4:17:52 PM by Sledgesaul

One of Hafar's warplanes struck a port in Bengazi The port is the main gateway for wheat and fuel imports into eastern Libya, a country struggling with anarchy three years after the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. It is not clear if they hit anything.

U.S. Congressmen outraged by Armenian church destruction in Syria

I think this is just another piece of evidence that Turkey is in cahoots with the Islamic State.

I'm quite sure ISIS's views on Christianity are enough...

Would love to know what Turks actually think about all this.

ISIS gets hit in the pocketbook. Alright get all the oil and freedom jokes out of your systems. (Eagle Screech)

I imagine their pissed at all the good press the Kurds are getting.

I somehow doubt Turkey is directly supporting IS, and the fact that they blew up one building that happens to be linked to a Turkish perpetrated genocide that Ankara still denies doesn't prove anything. Especially when IS blows up places of worship all the time.

Thats why I want a Turkish opinion on all this.

The UAE's first female pilot has participated in the ISIS strikes. Hopefully this is a step towards more rights for women in the UAE. Out of curious how are women's rights in the UAE?,I know their not even allowed to drive cars in Saudi Arabia.

So I hear the UN has officially declared what ISIS is doing as crimes against humanity. Took them long enough. The mere existence of fucks like that alone is a crime against humanity.

Considering that these are the guys who invited the PLO to the table it is not at all surprising. I half expected them to give ISIS a seat on the human rights committee,they'd be right at home with the bunch that infests that chamber

In better news the British have finally come. Also the Kurds have halted the ISIS advance near Kobani.

edited 25th Sep '14 1:58:29 PM by JackOLantern1337

Will one of you make an ISIS thread already? Arab Spring =/= ISIS.

As long as it ain't here.

edited 25th Sep '14 2:58:36 PM by FFShinra

Or even just fold them into the global terrorism thread?

ISIS is big enough to warrant its own thread.

Denmark to send seven F-16s to Iraq

Westminster are debating at the moment whether to get involved in Iraq.

The US is ordering diplomats out of Yemen. [1]

The PLO is not even remotely comparable to ISIS

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I don't see the point of moving the ISIS discussion elsewhere, given that it would be very difficult to discuss the arab spring in Iraq and Syria without discussing ISIS

edited 26th Sep '14 6:43:41 AM by Stripes-the-Zebra

There are other factors in Syria other than Da'esh, and Iraq never really fell to the Arab Spring and thus doesn't really belong in the discussion anyway. Nevermind the fact that there are several other nations that are getting completely ignored because one entity is taking over all discussion.

I've formed a new topic. If the mods open it, that will be used. If not, I'd still rather use the terrorism thread than this one.

Please post some of the news that you feel is being ignored.

[1]◊ Best map I could find about control over Sana'a.

And usually I do. It's just as soon as I do, three or four other people put Daesh news and it gets ignored unless I harp on about it long enough, like with Yemen.

EDIT- Okay the Mods say no to a seperate topic on just Daesh. Still, they also say Global Terrorism is just fine for it and I agree.

edited 26th Sep '14 7:10:09 AM by FFShinra

So the airstrikes have not stopped ISIS's advance on Kobani. Maybe that's Turkey's condition for intervention,let ISIS kill as many Kurds as they can,wiping out troublesome elements,then the Turks will move in and kill ISIS. Kind of like how Russia handled the Polish Home Army,it would also explain the lack of airstrikes near Kobani.

You know, just because a state can act in a certain Machiavellian way doesn't mean they always will. Attributing the lowest possible motive - without actual evidence - to every state action is just as fallacious as assuming they're all selflessly acting with the people of Iraq's best interests at heart. The recent Turkish administration is not notably anti-Kurdish by Turkey's standards; on the contrary Erdogan's Kurdish policy has been commended at home and abroad.

I rather suspect that the Turks just want to stay out; they are content to protect their own borders and see it up to others to fix the mess of the Middle East (which it is). Yurtta sulh, cihanda sulh.

I also would want to know what Turkish public opinion on the issue is.

edited 26th Sep '14 4:13:57 PM by Achaemenid

There is a Turkish troper participating in the Turkish Politics thread, IIRC.

That's why I said maybe,just random speculation.

I don't think it's a good idea to help another terrorist group just because they are fighting ISIL. Until Turkey itself is threatened, let those blood-thirsty maniacs kill each other.

edited 27th Sep '14 5:22:01 AM by amateur55