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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#11426: Apr 20th 2012 at 9:04:13 AM

...Not good.

What about in Libya? Have things calmed down a little?

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#11427: Apr 20th 2012 at 10:50:39 AM

They aren't getting worse, but no, they aren't better as of yet. These things take time, even in todays age of twitter.

I'm more worried about Yemen though. But no one is covering it.

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#11428: Apr 20th 2012 at 1:07:14 PM

I think the general consensus about Yemen is "screw it". It has every chance of turning into Somalia Mark II (this, just as Somalia itself is getting better).

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#11429: Apr 20th 2012 at 4:07:22 PM

Dangerous consensus that...

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#11430: Apr 20th 2012 at 5:09:53 PM

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How is Somalia getting better?

Also, here is news on Yemen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17788086

edited 2nd May '12 8:39:58 PM by stripesthezebra

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#11431: Apr 20th 2012 at 7:29:53 PM

Al-Shabaab's merger with al-Qaeda is very likely a sign that it's not confident enough to operate by itself. Less speculatively, attacks in Mogadishu against the government-in-place are actually becoming less common than before. There was big bombing a while ago that seemed to be targeting the Prime Minister, but it was no longer seen as a symptom of "business as usual".

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#11432: Apr 21st 2012 at 7:06:10 AM

In addition, Ethiopian and/or Kenyan AU forces have made progress recently by capturing some towns/cities from the Islamists.

(Been a while since I read those news so I don't remember it very well...)

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#11433: Apr 21st 2012 at 7:11:13 AM

Hasn't Kenya's offensive been mostly a masisve case of "lol, epic fail"?

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#11434: Apr 21st 2012 at 7:18:26 AM

All operations against al-Shabaab (hope I got the name right) in the past several years have been failures except the last year or so.

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#11435: Apr 21st 2012 at 8:46:42 AM

What changed?

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#11436: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:46:36 AM

Direct involvement of Kenya. So quite the opposite of fail when you think about it...

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#11437: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:58:02 AM

SUCCEED!

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#11438: Apr 21st 2012 at 10:01:30 AM

But the Kenyan troops fell hilariously short of their states mission objectives, advancing at a snail's pace or not at all. Mostly, al-Shaabah seems to be able to hold them off easily enough.

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#11439: Apr 21st 2012 at 5:16:06 PM

Mission objectives are to establish a buffer zone. Those were met.

You have to understand, the Kenyan Army is organized as a self-defence force, not like the US or some other great power military, that can launch expeditionary campaigns on a whim. So no, they're doing fine.

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#11440: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:29:54 PM

Also, as far as I could tell, al-Shabaab is controlling much smaller areas of the country than before. If Somalia's a mess, it's better than it was in 1993 (which is what most people think of it as), and—for that matter—better than Yemen, where AQIP controls extensive territory.

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#11441: Apr 22nd 2012 at 4:19:30 AM

One should keep in mind that there are, simply put, three Somalias, not one. The south-eastern third is what you hear about in relation to the civil war and Shabab. The middle third, aka Punt, is the stomping ground of the Pirates of the Indian Ocean, However the northern third, while not a paradise is pretty stable and peaceful. It considers itself an independent notion and calls itself Somaliland but unfortunately has yet to be recognized by anyone.

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#11442: Apr 29th 2012 at 1:29:04 PM

Been poking around Al Jazerra and according to the live blog a group called al-Nusra Front have been claiming responsibility for the suicide bombings. I remember a while back a lot of us were wondering who was carrying them out.

Link: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/Syria

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#11443: Apr 29th 2012 at 3:25:12 PM

Libyan ex-Oil Minister, who defected during the uprising, found dead in Danube in Vienna (where he worked after his defection). I wonder what's the story on that.

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#11445: Apr 29th 2012 at 3:33:15 PM

there were no signs of violence to Mr Ghanem's body, which was in the river that flows through Vienna.

This sounds as much like a suicide as it does a murder that was framed to look like a suicide.

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#11446: Apr 29th 2012 at 3:35:35 PM

They should check for poison/drugs in his blood.

But it's also possible that he became ill and fell into the water.
Well, sure, if he actually had a history of heart attacks or some such illness.

edited 29th Apr '12 3:37:07 PM by MarqFJA

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#11447: Apr 29th 2012 at 3:40:57 PM

I'm a bit sceptical about it being an accident, but then again, the guy was 69.

edited 29th Apr '12 3:41:07 PM by BestOf

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#11449: Apr 29th 2012 at 9:30:31 PM

I still think it would have been best for the west not to have intervened in Libya...

Also, Qaddafi apparently financed sarkozy´s campaing. 50 million dollars.

edited 29th Apr '12 9:32:15 PM by Baff

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Colonial1.1 Crazed Lawrencian from The Marvelous River City Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
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#11450: Apr 29th 2012 at 9:34:20 PM

...You condemn intervention, and then you give even more of a reason why Gaddafi's regime should have been ended.

Secularism of the non-punishing kind could be useful in Libya, to prevent it going further to the right.

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