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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#1026: May 7th 2014 at 12:08:31 PM

Can someone tell me what the appeal of the Dark Matter Trilogy is beyond "Dark Matter are cool villains"? I really don't like the Dark Matter games since they're so boring, yet a lot of people seem to love them.

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#1027: May 7th 2014 at 12:11:02 PM

The Animal Friends? 64's ability combination system? Simpler and more puzzle-based gameplay? *shrug*

I don't really get the appeal, either.

edited 7th May '14 12:13:21 PM by MrYoshbert

Eh.
Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#1028: May 7th 2014 at 12:40:37 PM

Some people just like them I guess? I personally love the more recent games more. Couldn't really explain.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#1029: May 7th 2014 at 2:40:41 PM

Its mostly the Animal Friends and Kirby 64's copy mixing...

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#1030: May 7th 2014 at 2:47:32 PM

Not many of the characters introduced in the Dark Matter trilogy came back in later games. The original animal friends in particular are surprisingly popular (possibly because they showed up in the anime).

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#1031: May 7th 2014 at 3:12:49 PM

[up]That's because of a different thing entirely.

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#1032: Jan 15th 2015 at 8:58:51 PM

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#1033: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:20:44 AM

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#1034: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:27:51 AM

So how long will it be until we get the next Sakurai-style Kirby game?

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ElectricNova Since: Jun, 2012
#1035: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:30:49 AM

Hi.

Kirby is one of my favourite series, so next month I'm doing a replay marathon of Adventure/Dream land 2/ Super star/64/Return to dreamland/Triple deluxe

wish me luck

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#1036: Jan 21st 2015 at 8:36:42 AM

[up][up] Personally, I'm clamoring for a 3D Kirby to come out for the Wii U (most likely toward the end of its life cycle, just like other console Kirby titles). I doubt one will come out any time soon, though.

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#1037: Jan 21st 2015 at 1:50:42 PM

Sakurai doesn't work on the series anymore, and all his games for the series were different in style, so I'm not exactly sure what a Sakurai-style Kirby game would be defined as.

Personally, I just want at least a current-gen port or remake of Kirby Air Ride. A sequel would be nice, but I don't think that's ever gonna happen.

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#1038: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:02:34 PM

[up][up]I really don't think what Kirby does could be done well in a 3D setting.

The hitboxes would have to be enormous.

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#1039: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:17:04 PM

Co-op gameplay.

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#1040: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:18:49 PM

[up]x2

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#1041: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:24:46 PM

Sakurai styled would mean Super Star's game-play, which we already got with Triple Deluxe...we won't be getting another one for a while.

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#1042: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:26:03 PM

[up][up]Everything is still confined to 2D planes in terms of actual gameplay.

edited 21st Jan '15 2:26:16 PM by Grounder

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#1043: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:32:28 PM

The problem with making a 3D Kirby game is trying to find a concept of game-play that works for more than one game and making decent level design that feels like Kirby actually is evolving from 2D to 3D in a smooth way. Then finding a way to actually increase the challenge like normal.

Fighting enemies wouldn't be as big of a problem as you think.

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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#1044: Jan 21st 2015 at 2:41:31 PM

The biggest hurdle would be handing how Kirby's swallow works. It has a huge range in the 2D games, but plop Kirby in a 3D area and it'll be a lot less useful.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#1045: Jan 21st 2015 at 3:26:50 PM

@Odd1: The Sakurai style is pretty much inhaling with tons of abilities with a greater focus on combat (as opposed to the Dark Matter Trilogy style which has fewer abilities and a focus on puzzle solving, or any of the other spinoffs with completely different gameplay).

I think a 3D Kirby game should be a combo-heavy beat-em-up deal like DMC, GoW, Bayo and the like. I've always loved the Sakurai-style Kirby games for the combat, but I've also wished it could be focused on a little more.

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CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1046: Jan 21st 2015 at 4:39:35 PM

Dunno why there's be any asking about getting a Sakurai-style game, considering we've already recently gotten Triple Deluxe and Return to Dreamland (and Super Star Ultra, if you want to count that). It seems to be the style HAL's going with right now, outside of spinoff-y titles.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#1047: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:48:30 PM

There really isn't an option.

The only option is from the Dark Matter games, Amazing Mirror and Squeak Squad are just Nightmare in Dreamland 2.0 which was a remake of the simplest style with copy powers.

Unless they want to try no powers and all items again...ha.

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#1048: Jan 21st 2015 at 6:55:52 PM

There could be a few ways to make a 3d Kirby work. Maybe allowing you to aim while inhaling, or turning the air gun attack into a stun you can use at any time.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#1049: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:13:00 PM

Its not about making Kirby himself work, its about actually designing levels in a 3D environment and making it work with Kirby's abilities.

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CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1050: Jan 21st 2015 at 7:14:30 PM

to be honest I'd actually like to see another game in a similar style to the Dark Matter trilogy

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