Puella Magi Madoka Magica

I'm pretty sure Madoka Magica was also fairly well acclaimed.

@ L Dragon 2: Pfffft. I honestly couldn't care less. Actually, to be honest, I'm not really that big of a fan of this franchise all things considered. It's just one of those things that was raising my eyebrow and there came a time when I was like, "Eh, might as well bite the bullet." and watched the whole 12 episodes. In fact, here are my issues with it:

• The violin kid's a big prick and Hitomi's a bitch.
• The "dramatic head-tilts" are not so much dramatic as they are pretentious. Like the director is saying "I'm being dramatic!"
• Kyubey's like Keyser Soze if he was resurrected as an alien cat thing. (Which was probably the point.)
• I'm not really a fan of how they made Homura seem dramatic and above it all before episode 10. I know she's supposed to be a tragic character, but man I was like "Stop being so damn vague! If you know something, say something!" Apparently, they established how Homura tried to tell them, but they didn't buy it. Ok fine, but how about giving subtle nudges like, "Don't listen to the alien cat thing because something really really big and really really bad is coming in a couple of weeks."? Not something like "Don't listen to the alien cat thing because I said so." I'm actually hoping the next time we see her, a third party or something will spectacularly defeat her and put her out of her misery. Also, how the heck did she get that weird HQ of hers anyhow? And what about her parents? Did they die in a fire or something?
• And when you really think about it, all the characters come off as being really, really, really prone to making themselves look really dumb and pretentious.

Let me put it like this, if a show that satirizes anime like Megas XLR ever shows up, they should really riff on the problems I've pointed out.

But to be fair, the music's actually pretty nice. So there's that.

edited 2nd Aug '14 8:39:47 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Couldn't that apply to any work though, including ones that are generally considered to be Lowest Common Denominator?

edited 2nd Aug '14 7:53:09 AM by LDragon2

You mean, like teenagers?

edited 15th Sep '14 11:20:23 PM by JRPictures

"These characters are too mean! :("

Also, Hitomi is not a bitch, and the fact that she gets called one all the time is a symptom of how gross anime fandom in general is.

I agree. Except the writer is not the one who put the head tilts in. That would be the director as in, the person who oversees the animation.

I'm not really sure where to begin with this. Especially the bolded parts.

edited 2nd Aug '14 8:04:58 AM by majoraoftime

I see. Plus, there's a difference between something's that generally disliked by many and genuinely has nothing to offer beyond junk, and something that has only a few naysayers hating it due to nitpicks or a different viewpoint that may not be as analytical, or because their standards are different.

I don't understand why some people need every detail spelled out for them.

You know what one of my guilty pleasures is? The Super Mario Bros. movie. Conversely, you know what I consider one of my all time favorite movies? Battleship.

You don't have to justify enjoying something to anyone. Your opinions are your own.

I don't really know how to interpret what you just said. Is this one of those "oh man, words can't describe how good of a point you're making" deals or the opposite of that?

The opposite.

Aw geez.

Am I missing something regarding what majoraoftime put in bold?

They actually threw in a subtle explanation or something?

edited 2nd Aug '14 9:22:46 AM by TargetmasterJoe

I can't actually speak for majoraoftime.

But to quote myself an hour ago, I don't understand why some people need every detail spelled out for them.

Well, there could be a variety of reasons. I am not sure about everyone else but I do not always catch/know the reference to some obscure philosophy, moral, science, etc. that a work uses. I had no idea what satire was until I researched it on the internet. Also, not everyone is good at critical thinking or coming to fairly accurate conclusions about what the story's themes are. Some stories are as subtle as a brick flying to your face and it is still possible to completely miss the point of a story.

Some people are just more interested in the story rather than actually solving the mystery or figuring things for themselves. I know writers and thinkers don't want to spoon feed anyone with the answers but at same time, they have to realize not everyone is gonna invest time trying to figuring out all the stuff the writers put in. Not everyone is going to invest time in a story if they hate characters, plot or premise. The thing is most people don't really want to think about what goes into the stuff that they are reading yet alone real life.

Words cannot describe my hate for you right now.

Eep, Oh, Crap!!

Well, do you have a reason why they shouldn't be considered a prick and a bitch?

Do you have a reason they should? The burden of proof is on you, accuser.

To be fair, Kyousuke didn't even realize that Sayaka had a crush on him and Hitomi did tell Sayaka to make her move or she will.

Urobuchi Gen the writer of the series just said the Homura parents aren"t important to the plot and thats why their not there.

Also Homura not having her parents around makes sense for her when it comes to her obession with Madoka if she had any good parental figures in her life she probably would have never made the irrational decision to contract.

edited 2nd Aug '14 10:31:43 AM by danjo

But that goes against Madoka herself, who has a pretty good life, but is still determined to contract.

I agree. I think she still would've contracted even if her parents were an active part of her life.

It's funny that despite using Spiral energy and Getter Rays ^note  that's what Shin Getter uses, right?, Kyubey still says that she can't win by herself.

From the videos I saw, I would say that the Homura/Mami fight had the destruction of the lobby scene in The Matrix and the kata^note  at least when they start fighting up close from that Equilibrium vid.

By the way, that fight is still as awesome as when I first saw it.

edited 2nd Aug '14 11:10:41 AM by Diamite

Uh, what did GAP say?

Yeah, what he said. Kyousuke is all "me and my violin" this and "I can't play the violin anymore" that. I'd wager that even if he did know about Sayaka having a crush on him, he'd still be caught up with the violin. And Hitomi,

edited 2nd Aug '14 11:15:18 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Why should they?

One of them is a fourteen year old violinist who got into a car accident that robbed him off his talent, only to miraculously make a full recovery. He could have been more attentive to Sayaka's attraction to him, yes, but he's also dealing with alot of his own issues, namely the whole "will never play a violin ever again", so it's not really surprising that he never made a move on his own, even if he isn't captain oblivious.

The other one is a teenage girl who has a crush on a boy whom she knows her friend has feelings for, so she decides to give Sayaka a chance to confess her feelings before she makes her own move. Were it not for the meguca situation, this would have worked out, well, not perfectly, but it would have solved the love triangle issue. Either Sayaka works out her feelings for Kyousuke and confesses, or she herself gets a chance to pursue her own happiness. Of course, we know why Hitomi issuing that challenge at that particular time is a bad idea, but Hitomi herself, ignorant of magic, doesn't

So which part of this describes a bitch, or a prick?

edited 2nd Aug '14 11:19:15 AM by CannonGerbil

Not many, you're right. Most will just go ahead and do it without giving you any such courtesy at all.

Hitomi was being impressively respectful of her friendship with Sayaka by talking to her first and giving her the opportunity.

edited 2nd Aug '14 11:22:36 AM by TobiasDrake

I agree with you on Kyousuke but with Hitomi atleast she took the time to confront Sayaka about her feeling with Kyousuke and even give Sayaka a chance to make the first move but Sayaka at that point was going to alot of stuff.

IMO if Hitomi was a "bitch" she would have confess to Kyousuke behind Sayaka back and gloat about it.

edited 2nd Aug '14 11:23:29 AM by danjo