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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#50926: Jul 23rd 2014 at 5:58:29 AM

My favourite scene is the one where Oktavia first appears.

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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#50927: Jul 23rd 2014 at 6:16:27 AM

Personally, my favorite was Homura fighting Walpurgisnacht. Dat Gun pr0n.

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majoraoftime Since: Jun, 2009
#50928: Jul 23rd 2014 at 6:44:10 AM

Surface to ship missiles, apparently.

Random fun fact: The two misogynist dudes Sayaka confronts were basically taken wholesale from a real conversation the writer overheard while he was on a train.

edited 23rd Jul '14 6:47:33 AM by majoraoftime

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#50929: Jul 23rd 2014 at 6:45:19 AM

There's a better fight scene in Rebellion, but I can't talk too much about it because spoilers.

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CannonGerbil Fledging Supervillian from SPACE Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#50931: Jul 23rd 2014 at 7:53:37 AM

Achaemenid, you probably should have watched the first and second movies, since they are basically a recap of the entire series with higher production values, but since you've already watched the entire series, there's not much point in doing so.

But seriously, now that you've caught up, you should follow [up][up] advice and go watch rebellion. Your Madoka experience is not complete until you watched that. Then report back with your findings.

P.S. There's a Madoka manga called Different story, which has Mami as the main character and thus shows off more of her than the anime does, for obvious reasons. It's a good read, if you have the time for it.

edited 23rd Jul '14 7:56:32 AM by CannonGerbil

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Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#50932: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:39:07 AM

The series is streamable legally on several different sites, but the movies have to be bought or... the other thing. I'm still not sure whether I think the movies are better, anyway. Shorter, at least.

Rebellion is definitely worth watching, but it's very meta, indirectly based on a lot of quirky fan things. Like the fact that Charlotte, the candy witch that ate Mami, is inexplicably popular and often shipped with Mami. And the general desire for a happier ending, and stuff like that. It's enough of a Mind Screw for us superfans that... well, I'm actually not sure if it'd be more or less of one for someone who just finished the series.

AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#50933: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:46:43 AM

For a different team there's also Kazumi's story.

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CannonGerbil Fledging Supervillian from SPACE Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#50934: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:53:48 AM

Well, for those who can't see the Rebelion movie for whatever reason, I suppose I can give you guys a taste of what you are missing out on, so here:

edited 23rd Jul '14 10:38:48 AM by CannonGerbil

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#50935: Jul 23rd 2014 at 2:38:40 PM

Have we pored over that video for ~symbolism~ yet? That seems like a thing we should do. Like Kyouko holding her soul gem in her mouth (her food fixation) and Sayaka running into a silhouette of herself as a meguca (she was all hung up on becoming a hero).

Everyone except Homura and Tatsuya forgets about her
I believe it was mentioned that Tatsuya can only see her because he's an innocent child. Which means him growing up would drop the number of people who remember to just Homura unless Madoka decides to become some other kid's imaginary friend.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#50936: Jul 23rd 2014 at 2:42:40 PM

You want symbolism, check out the runes in Homura's transformation sequence.

To mistress: we're bored
I kill myself
They glorify death

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#50937: Jul 23rd 2014 at 2:44:22 PM

I can't read runes, so thanks for the translation.

Homura remains the very picture of mental health, I see.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#50938: Jul 23rd 2014 at 4:46:59 PM

Parts of Homura's thing are sorta like the Nutcracker ballet.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#50939: Jul 23rd 2014 at 7:26:19 PM

.......

And now, years later, I finally ask:

How did Homura fit a Type 88 Surface to Ship Missile launcher truck, a normal truck, and a FUCKING BATTLESHIP in her time buckler?

I mean yeah, once you put it in, it's in, but how do you even shove those things in there in the first place. Did she just pick them up and go Alley oop! In ya go!!!

I can't believe it took me three years to ask about that.

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majoraoftime Since: Jun, 2009
#50940: Jul 23rd 2014 at 7:35:51 PM

She didn't. They were there already.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#50942: Jul 23rd 2014 at 8:16:02 PM

Presumably it's dimensionally transcendental.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#50943: Jul 23rd 2014 at 9:20:15 PM

Well the thing is, that means, she paused time, and brought them there ahead of time. But people would have noticed, depending on when she did it (I mean, someone would have especially noticed a battleship missing).

And she would have still needed to get it in the air to drop it on Walpurgis' face, so there are still some mysteries abound on that front.

And part of me wishes Kyuubey hadn't told her that going back in time would have made things worse, because you know she would have found more missile platforms, and more Battleships to throw at the damned thing if she'd been able to redo things again.

Hell, I think she would have tossed an entire fleet armada at Walpurgis Night as her opening volley instead.

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HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#50944: Jul 23rd 2014 at 9:24:14 PM

[up] It was said somewhere that Walpurgisnacht's humanoid torso is a decoy, so as long as Homura can't find its actual core/body, she can't kill it no matter how many missiles and bombs she throws at it.

Frishman Sinful Saint from Baton Rouge, LA Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#50945: Jul 24th 2014 at 4:19:24 AM

...what if they're all nukes?

I'm serious. What if instead of dropping battleships she drops about a hundred boomer subs on it, complete with their intercontinental ballistic missiles?

Sure, Japan would be utterly destroyed and everyone would be dead, but then Madoka wouldn't make the contract.

edited 24th Jul '14 4:19:43 AM by Frishman

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#50946: Jul 24th 2014 at 5:26:17 AM

Japan really really doesn't like nuclear weapons. It's very likely that Homura knows victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and it's a fact that Urobuchi does.

Japan explicitly forbids nuclear weapons on their shores. Bringing nukes to Japan is a war crime.

majoraoftime Since: Jun, 2009
#50947: Jul 24th 2014 at 5:34:05 AM

It seems unlikely Homura would care very much about the morals of it, and much more likely there were practical concerns getting in her way (i.e. how are you going to get nukes while still keeping an eye on Madoka - there aren't any in Japan, radiation damage to Madoka, etc)

CannonGerbil Fledging Supervillian from SPACE Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#50948: Jul 24th 2014 at 6:33:20 AM

Anyone here knows the name of the insert song that happens during the Witch scene in Rebellion? I've been trying to look for it, but it's not in the general movie OST and the Madoka wiki is apparently run by Madmen that makes navigation borderline impossible. Searching for Madoka Rebellion insert song just saddles me with either the Cake song or the OP and ED.

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CannonGerbil Fledging Supervillian from SPACE Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#50950: Jul 24th 2014 at 7:05:00 AM

No, that song is part of the OST. I'm referring to the battle song, the one the plays during the large scale witch on witch battle at the end, though I can understand why you might have thought otherwise. I should've phrased it better.

edited 24th Jul '14 7:06:48 AM by CannonGerbil

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