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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Jan 2nd 2011 at 6:14:32 AM

Thanks to recent laws that donors have to be contactable once the child they have helped to conceive turns 18, there has been a massive shortage of sperm in australia. The Colbert Report even did a riff on it.

So what are your views on sperm donation? Being a clivic minded individual who has been blessed with obscenely good health the thought of 'giving the greatest gift' to the childless did appeal to me. But I ultimately decided that doing a great service to a women would be doing a great disservice to a child conceived in such a manner. Giving a single woman a kid means robbing a child of their father, and I don't bide with that.

But what is your opinion?

edited 2nd Jan '11 6:28:32 AM by joeyjojo

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#2: Jan 2nd 2011 at 6:29:53 AM

AFAIK most people who come in for sperm are couples who can't have kids together.

My opinion on the law is that it's stupid.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#3: Jan 2nd 2011 at 7:15:12 AM

I'm all for sperm donation. I think that forcing the donors to be contactable is probably a mistake for the market, but it means that sperm has a higher premium, so for those guys who want to go to a spank bank and get compensated more for it, if they're willing to get calls from the kid when he's 18, by all means.

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#4: Jan 2nd 2011 at 7:37:34 AM

"But I ultimately decided that doing a great service to a women would be doing a great disservice to a child conceived in such a manner. Giving a single woman a kid means robbing a child of their father, and I don't bide with that." - joeyjojo

... so why exactly does a child need a father here?

That said, I wouldn't donate sperm because I have type 1 diabetes and am afraid to even risk passing on my type 1 diabetic genes. I feel I should leave reproduction to the genetically healthier... and yet, I have yet to get a vasectomy. o.o

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jan 2nd 2011 at 7:52:19 AM

My opinion on the law is that it's stupid.

No love then for all the Gene Hunting bastards and their quest to find their lost kin?

edited 2nd Jan '11 7:53:24 AM by joeyjojo

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6: Jan 2nd 2011 at 7:54:28 AM

'tis indeed a fools errand.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:03:48 AM

You don't happen to know any one who tried by any chance?

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#8: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:07:57 AM

Well, I also think that it's kind of messing up your priorities. One's father is the one who raises one. Zero one one. Err-you know what I mean.

Genetics is good for knowing whether you're likely to go bald and everything, but I find it kind of odd to seek emotional attachment to someone you've never met. And the attitude that encourages it makes adoption and sperm donation wrought with peril. And when you have a law that reinforces that attitude, it's just a bad policy in my mind.

Not exactly a huge hot-button issue and, like I said, it has the potential to make those willing to put up with it marginally richer people.

edited 2nd Jan '11 8:08:14 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

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#10: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:16:09 AM

My opinion on the law is that it's stupid.
Indeed. It's just DNA. The only useful thing that comes from Gene Hunting is that one might gain additional knowledge about your families medical history.

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breadloaf Since: Oct, 2010
#11: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:30:11 AM

Which could be resolved with genetics research anyway, then we can just analyse the DNA itself to determine medical issues (also keep it private so that insurance companies can't get at it)

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:42:10 AM

it has the potential to make those willing to put up with it marginally richer people.

It's very marginal in Oz. There are strictly laws forbidding the trade of living tissue. similar to adoption they can only legally pay the donor for his time and expenses. So you never get the quadruple digits for sperm that you see in the US. There is a up shot but that any donated sperm is legally property of the donor till it enters the recipient's body and he is free to place any vetoes he's see as appropriate.

edited 2nd Jan '11 8:43:51 AM by joeyjojo

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13: Jan 2nd 2011 at 9:00:46 AM

Wait wait wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Quadruple digits for sperm? Will someone tell me why I haven't tried this yet?

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#14: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:23:54 PM

Quadruple digits might be an exaggeration for what, from what I know, is essentially masturbation for a good cause.

Also: that is a really stupid law. If I decide to donate sperm, I do not want someone who I will, as likely as not, detest coming around to my house and presuming that I'd want to have anything to do with him-or-her.

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#15: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:36:51 PM

It's not for your benefit. It's to keep your medical history after the time of the donation from becoming a blank spot for them. The donation place will have it available up to the time you donated, but what about things that may show up after that — The argument is that things like Huntington's Chorea don't generally show up until middle age, and most sperm donors are younger than that, so it probably won't be in the medical history the kid got, and they have a right to know it's in the family medical background.

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#16: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:43:12 PM

I considered doing this, but I was rather pissed off about how they don't want to pay you to do it unless you have a bachelors and above.

I'm a physically fit, intelligent, and healthy male. I don't need a bachelors degree to be a good donor god damn it.

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#17: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:45:13 PM

They could just make a law to have sperm donors update thier medical history with the sperm bank so they can pass it on with the name removed.

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#18: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:47:09 PM

Quadruple digits might be an exaggeration for what, from what I know, is essentially masturbation for a good cause.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#19: Jan 2nd 2011 at 2:57:02 PM

You can get that high with Nobel Prize donors, but they are elite super men who are better then us.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20: Jan 2nd 2011 at 3:29:32 PM

You can get paid money with a bachelor's degree? Hot damn! This piece of crap will finally be worth something! Quick: sign me up!

I read somewhere that they actually only want someone willing to make repeated efforts or something.

neoYTPism Since: May, 2010
#21: Jan 2nd 2011 at 3:46:59 PM

"I considered doing this, but I was rather pissed off about how they don't want to pay you to do it unless you have a bachelors and above." - Barkey

Really? Any proof of this?

TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#22: Jan 2nd 2011 at 3:49:41 PM

/Phoenix Wright style music plays.

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#23: Jan 2nd 2011 at 6:19:17 PM

But I ultimately decided that doing a great service to a women would be doing a great disservice to a child conceived in such a manner. Giving a single woman a kid means robbing a child of their father, and I don't bide with that.

It doesn't necessarily mean that the child would be raised by a single mother. The mother could be a lesbian, a woman planning to raise the child with a man she is not sexually/romantically involved with, or have a husband who is sterile for whatever reason.

... so why exactly does a child need a father here?

Because two parents are better than one? Because Boys Need Role Models?

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Kino Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Californicating
#25: Jan 2nd 2011 at 8:49:26 PM

I honestly thought about donating just encase I gt killed or something came up. Not sure what the laws are in my state though.


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