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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#11151: Dec 15th 2015 at 6:31:56 PM

If I remember right the old manga talked about them being extremely warlike.

I think some of it is just fanon though. Fanon I'm totally accepting as true.

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#11152: Dec 15th 2015 at 6:36:39 PM

It's a Word of Saint Paul thing that a lot of people subscribe too. I think it would add a bit more nuance to the Chozo so I'm willing to accept it.

edited 15th Dec '15 6:44:12 PM by Kostya

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#11153: Dec 15th 2015 at 6:39:36 PM

My fanon is that they're an extremely dualistic species in their mode of thought (not the philosophy, just two contrasting mindsets). Their culture highly values hunters, yet they only eat vat meat to preserve the environment. Warriors are an exalted caste, yet despite their love of combat they prefer peace. They're deeply spiritual and attune with nature, yet they achieve it with super-advanced science and technology and have no compunctions against any of the Scale of Scientific Sins.

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#11155: Dec 20th 2015 at 7:23:34 PM

The world is vastly improved by that existing.

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Kosjurake The Wildest of Ronins from Tokyo LOCCENT Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
The Wildest of Ronins
#11158: Dec 20th 2015 at 8:27:31 PM

I like to think that Samus's Ridley cosutume is actually made out of Ridley corpse bits. Lord knows she's exploded him enough times to have enough parts.

...That might be a bit morbid but oh well.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#11159: Dec 20th 2015 at 9:04:35 PM

[up]Not really that morbid if you play Monster Hunter.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#11160: Dec 20th 2015 at 9:25:22 PM

When I saw the egg I was expecting a joke involving something akin to PTSD.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#11163: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:14:28 AM

If we're going by the "the Chozo are exaggerated bird stereotype" theory, I'm not sure that makes sense. Plenty of birds eat eggs, like crows.

Crows are assholes too, which could explain a few things about Chozo culture.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#11164: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:17:18 AM

Aren't crows also quite intelligent?

IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
#11165: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:20:07 AM

A questioned askedby someone who doesn't live with crows.(The answer is yes)

edit:Since I posted I might as well point out that even though Japanese customers didn't care for it much, Japanese reviewers loved Other M, at least the "important" reviewers like Famatsu.

edited 21st Dec '15 10:21:33 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#11166: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:31:51 AM

So? Didn't critics elsewhere like it at least somewhat?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11167: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:36:58 AM

It actually got rather positive reviews at first even in the US. I recall Nintendo Power giving it a 8.5 out of 10, even though their review had a section exclusively for ranting about the Varia lava scene. It was as the years went on that public opinion turned more sour.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#11168: Dec 21st 2015 at 10:44:44 AM

That can happen occasionally even with things almost everyone who isn't a critic hates. Once critics realize they're out of sync, they usually revise their opinion later.

FrozenWolf2 Since: Mar, 2013
#11169: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:13:12 AM

Well the thing was the Reviews were postive

Gameplay and visuals were praised... and the story was either considered bland and made Samus Boring or borderline offensive.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#11170: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:16:27 AM

Yeah, I seem to recall having a reasonable amount of fun with the gameplay outside of the pixel hunts. It also looks really good. Honestly, I don't think Other M is a bad game but it has a really shitty story that drags everything else down.

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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
#11171: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:24:21 AM

It didn't take years for it to end up in the bargain bins of the US market. Maybe for professional reviewers to turn on it but not general customer. I know this because it was used as evidence by the burn Nintendo crowd that "our" company was a failure.

I don't read a lot of Japanese but from what I get, USA user negativity ran from "Too many cutscenes and needs a control stick!" to "This narrative was sexist!", "You missed the point of Metroidvania!", "Clearly no continuity editor!" or such. The Japanese user response seemed to be more "Too weird, more Super Metroid please." to "You turned Samus from strong woman into regular woman." Similar attitude, but less elaboration, passion and vitriol, which mind you could be me not reading a lot of Japanese, making the messages only seem more subdued to my ignorant eyes. I'm also not learned in Japanese video game culture, so facebook and youtube are where I compared responses.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#11172: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:29:35 AM

Famitsu isn't an important reviewer. They were a joke even back then, and they're certainly a joke now.

Speaking of Japan, while I'm 99% sure Federation Force will bomb over there (and in the west to be fair), I'm curious as to whether they might like it more than usual since it seems like FPS Monster Hunter.

IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
#11173: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:29:49 AM

You know what? I thought I posted these things in that other Metroid thread...well, it's too late to go back and edit it now, sorry.

I know, let's talk more about that new 3DS Game about the Federation Troopers!edit[up]yes, that one.

edited 21st Dec '15 11:31:40 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#11174: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:30:08 AM

As always I loved Other M and that makes the rest of you objectively wrong.

But I find everybody's distaste of it somewhat amusing. People have gotten pretty protective of the Metroid series. From Other M all the way to Federation Force, some people just seem to hate things that are different. ;p

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#11175: Dec 21st 2015 at 11:30:51 AM

From what I know of Japanese culture and language, responses usually seem more subdued when compared to English (especially American English).

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