Martial Arts Thread

Random thought.

I always thought this "wax on, wax off" training in the Karate Kid was load of crockshit. If he spent that time on...I don't know, actual, direct training, it would have been so much more efficient.

Personally, I like the explanation that it was just Mr..Miyagi teaching Daniel some practical skills...as well as have him pay the tuition fee with his labor. I mean, I don't remember him paying the training fee. XP

I just saw a couple of boxing videos that were too good not to share here. First is a short look at some of the infighting skills of the legendary Roberto Duran.

And then here you can see a brief sparring session from just a few days ago where a 65 year old Duran, (with all the damage to his body that comes from 32 years as a professional fighter, as well as from a bad car accident in the early 2000s, and having done enough coke and booze in his lifetime to kill a herd of horses) takes current contender Sergio Mora to school. It's really kind of awe inspiring.

edited 28th May '16 9:23:09 PM by TheWanderer

Perhaps one of the weirdest specialisations ever....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I-LOhvQmjc

Here's a in depth look on Muay Thai.

Very interesting. Here's some Muay Boran.

Muhammad Ali died today.

I made a thread about it under the It Just Awes me forum, but I thought The Champ should have a video here too in honor of him.

Do you still remember the basics of CQC?

Best. Judo throw. EVER.

I get the feeling he's been throwing people like that for a long time.

Probably a Parisian.

I hope that was a set up otherwise the thrower is due an assault charge. Sweet throw though it may have been.

Nice high kick.

Poor sod looked like a turtle that's been put on its back.

One of my uncles (like to think he) is a gentle person. He was told to never hit a person by my grandparents and never broke that promise.

Instead, he practices judo and BJJ, in which he is black belt and brown belt, respectively. XP

Random question, for a story I'm writing.

What would be a good martial art for a person who has a limp in one leg (that is, he CAN walk without a cane and such, but his walk is very awkward) but with monster upper body strength, strong enough to easily do 35 pull ups in one go and capable of knocking someone's tooth out with one punch?

edited 7th Jul '16 12:31:50 AM by dRoy

My thinking:

He waits, deflects, grabs, then uses the crushing force of his squeeze to inflict serious internal damage, like many older forms of wrestling. If he's facing armed opponents the cane is vital, but also in those cases getting forced down to the ground is often a death sentence, especially if he faces multiple opponents.

This is the primary reason why koryu jujutsu often doesn't have any real ground game, as it was meant for the battlefield against armed/armored attackers often in conjunction with a knife or something else. This was an obvious disadvantage it had to Judo when going one-on-one without weapons, adding to the fact that some Jujutsu techniques are hard to do full force without breaking something (which is why ukemi is considered a vital skill). Judo had no such restriction as it kept to the simplest and safest throws possible, which could be practiced for hours.

Time period and context determine the techniques used.

edited 7th Jul '16 3:53:43 AM by TerminusEst

For some odd flavor. Bartitsu.

Good point about the time setting. The story is set in 2010s, and shadier parts of New York.

Also, he has no cane. Although his walk is awkward, he just walks without it.

I'm supposed to be starting taekwondo soon.

As a black belt in taekwondo...why?

I have a slow mind, and I'm trying to get faster with it.

I need to learn self-defense. Abusive father.

I need to learn discipline and I want to be challenged. I used to take it for a short while.

I need to lose weight and gain self-confidence.

Also; my very good friend suggested it to me, when I already had it in mind. He's 17 or 18 with a black belt. Which is cool.

I'm from South Korea, where kids are practically obliged to learn TKD. Let me tell you something.

Martial arts don't give people discipline. Purpose/drive in life and education give people discipline. I've seen many awful bullies and underachievers in my life who practiced TKD.

On the topic of self defense, first I'm going to assume that you already tried to contact authorities over your abusive father, but it didn't work (if not, you should try that first).

With that covered, I have to inform you that TKD is just about one of the worst martial arts when it comes to both self defense and challenging yourself. While it is true that there is no such thing as best martial art, only best martial artist, I can definitely say that TKD is not an ideal martial art for self-defense. Among many reasons, one of the core weaknesses of TKD as both combat sports and self defense is its lack of intense sparring AND physical conditioning.

If you want to learn self defense, I would recommend martial arts like krav maga or kali, but it's highly unlikely that you can find an authentic place that teaches them. If you do, though, go for it.

Basically, to put it simply if a martial art is prominently used in military, law enforcement, or MMA, you can bet it will be great for self defense (assuming that you are facing just one potential opponent). Along with the two I mentioned above, there are boxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, muay thai, wrestling, sambo, etc. At the very least, boxing gym should be pretty easy to find.

Why not TKD? Well, let's just say that I've learned more about fighting during first few months of boxing/wrestling than I did during ten years of TKD. Fun fact: TKD doesn't teach you how to properly guard your face. It does teach you how to guard your face, but it's highly unnatural and impractical.

Also, I've seen a person who practiced boxing for only a couple of years demolishing a professional TKD practitioner with my own eyes.

So it's not even a good starting point? Like, maybe I can get to more difficult MMA after this. I'm only 16.

Plus I don't have a drive to live. I really don't know how I'm still here.

And again, I have mental disabilities that make me slower in the head. I need to start somewhere or I'll be useless forever.

Judo, boxing, wrestling are good well-rounded starting points. TKD developed into a sport and is far more oriented towards it, most of the self-defense stuff is just for form. The older military version was useful, as it kept the actual fighting simple enough (karate chopping people in the neck was a favourite). It also depends heavily on the teacher.

This is not to say it's bad, you'll stay in shape and get that proper flexibility, but it doesn't really give you an idea on how to manage things outside of the regulated realm of sport.

Whatever you do, stay safe and keep in mind what you're training for.

edited 9th Jul '16 1:42:41 AM by TerminusEst

@dRoy

Is that so? That explains so much and it is enlightening.