Game of Thrones [Potential Book Spoilers]

Never read the books, so I wouldn't know... But I'm not exactly sure what you're implying, either...

Was Tyrion's introduction in the book better? Because that bit of dialogue between him and the whore(and his brother) in the pilot seemed to be rather enlightening as to his character... Which was added upon by his talk with Eddard's bastard. Although, if it would have been out of character for him to have done that in the book, then I can see where a problem would be...

Since the introduction to his character was invented for the pilot, the Fanservice may be an effort to lower the prospective anger of people who read the books, and disliked the scene...

In the books, he appeared as part of the procession. Certainly it would not be out of character for Tyrion to be involved with a whore though, or in a whorehouse.

The bit with Jon was in the books, but Ghost was part of it I believe. Also Benjen was already there, though he did talk with Jon afterwards.

And Tyrion was...nicer about things in the book. He really connects with Jon, and Jon feels "better" about things after they talk. That was my only sticking point with that scene.

Also I felt Viserys was too nice, we really didn't get to see to much of his abusive side. He really came across as more of an out of his element man child then the creepy, heavily incestuous overtones, and nasty man child he is in the books. I am thrilled with the rest of the series though, especially since this larger exposure opens up cos-play options. Now who to be, Viserys or Jaime....hmm decisions, decisions.

Given how he spends most of his first scene, I'm not sure how you could insert any more creepy incestuous overtones, short of skipping the "overtones" part entirely and going straight to incest. It's true that he doesn't seem as physically abusive here as he does in the books, though; his "wake the dragon" catchphrase gets a nod, but that's it.

edited 19th Apr '11 6:54:10 PM by Nornagest

http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/04/hbo-renews-game-of-thrones-for-second-season/#more-7477

Second season incoming already

Do like what they did with Tyrion and Jaime. Especially since, if I recall, they don't have any dialogue together for an extremely long time in the books.

To be fair, they didn't have a view point while together for a LONG time either.

Too right about HBO and sex, though this went a bit further than the pilots to Carnivale or Deadwood.

Dany is HOT, but I didn't find her naked scenes that appealing. Crying women and women being emotionally abused to the point where they're willing to try and drown themselves in boiling water really doesn't do it for me frankly.

Actually, that wasn't a self-drowning. She was just trying to get her emotional control back by continuing with her wedding preparations. Targaryens are naturally heat-resistant, so near-boiling water in her baths is sort of a thing for her.

edited 20th Apr '11 4:32:45 AM by Iaculus

I thought she was trying to clean her brother's sweaty... fingers... off of her.

Pretty sure Targaryens aren't heat-resistant.

Well, there is that whole incident where Dany walks into a raging bonfire and comes out unburned at the end of the first book.

edited 20th Apr '11 9:39:50 AM by Forzare

It's certainly a major theme, but any explanation of the details has yet to be confirmed. However, in this case, it's clearly better to have read the books so you know she wasn't trying to down herself, so much as seeking the comfort of a really hot bath.

.... Considering Dany never put her head under the water, why would someone ever think she's trying to drown herself?...

Wait why do people think she was trying to drown herself, I didn't see it

As for the change in the wedding night, I read that that was actually the author's idea because he didn't like how he over romanticised it in the novel

Just one person up above suggested the idea, which we've since discussed without their participation.

It's not that far off the mark, but it does help to have the book for context.

Nicknacks: Not really, the wayTargaryens are raised, she wouldn't really think of her brother feeling up her breasts as all that wrong. Until after Drogo's death she's a pretty passive, submissive character.

Oh, she was disturbed in the books. But more because he was anything but a loving brother. And She did put Viserys in his place while heading out to Vaes Dothrak

Forzare: That was an exceptional event. (Note also that Targaryens had attempted to hatch dragon eggs before, but only Dany was successful.) However, the Wiki of Ice and Fire does say that «some Targaryens also have a high tolerance of heat, though they are by no means immune to fire.» So perhaps that is the case.

Jaime Lannister is hot, played by a Danish actor, and a smooth psychopath who actually defenestrates someone! I think I'm in love.

In general I think most of the actors seem to have nailed their characters.

The only problem I had with that scene was that it was significantly off from how it was done in the books. I guess for safety reasons they couldn't have the kid hanging off the stone, but standing in the window just felt less dramatic to me.

edited 21st Apr '11 11:12:25 AM by blueharp

That's very true, but I do like how he asks how old Bran is, and then actually hesitates for a moment. I don't remember if this is also in the books, but I like how it humanizes him just a tiny bit... even if he's naturally still a complete bastard <3

Yes, that is in the books.

Actually, I liked that. It reduced the apparent danger in the scene, providing a better Hope Spot and thus a better 'oh shit' moment when Jaime pushed him off.

Which is EXACTLY what my brother (who has not read the books and doesn't know the story) said when he saw that scene. I'd say it worked perfectly. It's a minor change and IMHO, an improvement. What works on the page doesn't always work on the screen, after all.