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Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#4851: Jun 5th 2015 at 12:23:13 PM

Er, they've always been isolationist. Having no immigration and a tiny movement of peoples each year is very much isolation. They want an external source of aid or treasure that they can rely on, and they can get that without Kim Jong Un going to Russia to watch a parade. In the Cold War era, they relied on aid from their "fraternal socialist allies", in the 1990s they told everyone they were starving and needed urgent aid, and now they are leaning on Chinese and Russian fears of increased American and Japanese freedom of action in East Asia.

edited 5th Jun '15 12:23:26 PM by Achaemenid

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#4852: Jun 5th 2015 at 5:50:34 PM

Due to the MERS outbreak, Pyongyang requested for Seoul's assistance to help the inter-Korean zone.

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#4853: Jun 5th 2015 at 7:33:58 PM

...is it possible that NK could be gravely affected by MERS?

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#4855: Jun 5th 2015 at 7:47:25 PM

When you say gravely affected, what do you mean?

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#4856: Jun 5th 2015 at 8:02:13 PM

A MERS epidemic spreading across a country with extremely limited medical capabilities would be horrible enough on its own, but they'd also likely refuse the international medical aid they'd need to deal with it.

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#4857: Jun 5th 2015 at 8:34:53 PM

Indeed. They asked for assistance in putting infrared cameras to monitor personnel working there.

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#4858: Jun 6th 2015 at 2:27:36 AM

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Some of it. They'll take drugs and money but not an actual foreign medical presence.

edited 6th Jun '15 2:27:49 AM by Achaemenid

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#4860: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:08:32 AM

Cheeky doublepost to highlight this news item:

North Korea, in letter to U.N., claims U.S. targeted it with anthrax

This came from a (admittedly rather worrying) mistake where the US sent live anthrax samples to a number of places, including South Korea. So, err, the US is actually targeting the South then? Not like any got popped through Jong Un's letterbox.

Dude's still got his 'eek a ghost!' haircut.

edited 12th Jun '15 10:11:38 AM by betaalpha

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#4861: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:26:37 AM

Probably more like "I was spying on Rebel Korea and these letters we stole from them had Anthrax!"

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#4862: Jun 12th 2015 at 11:16:31 AM

Or they are blaming MERS cases on it?

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#4864: Jun 14th 2015 at 12:14:10 AM

Seems Pyongyang is mining the DMZ...to stop their own soldiers.

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#4865: Jun 14th 2015 at 12:20:24 AM

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And then the guys laying the mines escape with their friends in tow.

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#4866: Jun 14th 2015 at 2:32:56 AM

[up]Or charge for the safe passage on anyone trying to flee.

edited 14th Jun '15 2:33:03 AM by AngelusNox

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#4868: Jun 17th 2015 at 2:35:51 AM

BBC: North Korea says it faces worst drought in a century

...So apparently BEST KOREA gets natural disasters too after all.

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#4869: Jun 17th 2015 at 3:23:53 AM

"Gib monies plox" is what they mean there. They have form in this area - they lied about the extent of the 1990s famine in order to get more aid.

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#4870: Jun 17th 2015 at 4:27:27 AM

Irony if this is a Cry Wolf scenario in that this time it is as bad as they say....

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#4871: Jun 17th 2015 at 4:32:28 AM

Well some parts of South Korea are reporting drought conditions as well.

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#4872: Jun 19th 2015 at 12:04:44 AM

Going back to the one Korea idea I talked about some time ago.

I know I emphasized applying it towards China, but it doesn't have to be just for China, of course; it can be enforced towards any country having relations with South Korea. If ROK asked the international community to select one Korea between itself and DPRK, most of the countries would choose South Korea. South is pretty popular for reasons such as its economic strength and pop culture, whereas North is poor and vilified due to its nuclear tests and misdeeds.

It doesn't have to be implemented right away, but ROK could hold onto it and consider it as a potential card to play in the future. For one thing, it would send a message to North that despite all its shouting, it's South that holds most of the cards and that concessions would be rewarded for good behavior and not bad. And while at it, South could point to ISIS as an example demonstrating that being armed and aggressive doesn't necessarily make others pander to you.

edited 19th Jun '15 12:15:24 AM by Trivialis

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#4873: Jun 19th 2015 at 4:17:58 AM

[up] It's quite possible North Korea won't care if that actually happened.

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#4874: Jun 19th 2015 at 6:28:16 AM

Also refusal to recognise doesn't actually have that big of an effect. The U.S doesn't recognise Taiwan, but still tries to keep it safe, neither Japan or South Korea recognise the North as a state but they still interact with it (Japan often in ways that the south doesn't like). Short of North Korea getting removed from international organisations it would have no effect other than a symbolic middle finger that knowing North Korea might well be responded to with rockets.

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