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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#1: Nov 9th 2010 at 12:17:57 AM

Lawmakers are planning to make extreme cuts in services, including education, in order to try and make up the difference.

For many years, Texas' fiscal conservatism has been held up as a model, as Republicans in the state house had free reign to implement their plans. Now, it appears that what was implemented to try to balance budgets and improve growth has wrought catastrophic damage.

Discuss.

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#2: Nov 9th 2010 at 5:28:47 AM

Wait, they somehow managed to surpass California? That's both amazing and depressing.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Nov 9th 2010 at 6:45:28 AM

The gap is now proportionately larger than the deficit California recently closed with cuts and fee increases, its fourth dose of budget misery since September 2008.

So it looks like the various tricks the government tried to pull have run out and the depression finally said hello.

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#4: Nov 9th 2010 at 7:09:02 AM

I guesss its True what they say, Everything is bigger in Texas.

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#5: Nov 9th 2010 at 8:06:52 AM

What exactly were the policies before this occurred?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Nov 9th 2010 at 8:19:37 AM

They need to either raise taxes or take out loans. There's not much to cut. Economy and all. The previous spending is broken down in the article, although the article seems to be referring to its own research department instead of an external site.

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RicRomero Captain Obvious from Los Angeles Since: Dec, 1969
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#7: Nov 10th 2010 at 1:51:11 AM

Politicians are afraid to raise taxes or cut spending. Film at 11.

edited 10th Nov '10 1:51:18 AM by RicRomero

EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#8: Nov 10th 2010 at 2:11:00 AM

They're not afraid to cut spending, they just have a tendency to cut programs they don't like and inflate those they do.

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#9: Nov 10th 2010 at 3:35:52 AM

Like Texas education...which really needs far more money in it then they spend.

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#10: Nov 10th 2010 at 4:09:57 AM

^

Not so much that, they just need better people on the education board, the ones they have right now are all bible thumping morons.

Trying to delay a recession only makes it worse when it gets there, and Texas had been delaying this one for quite some time.

JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#11: Nov 10th 2010 at 8:22:54 AM

Why does no-one think raising taxes is a solution anymore. I mean seriously, no government is allowed to say that they would just simply raise a tax anymore without people throwing a fit.

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#12: Nov 10th 2010 at 8:51:13 AM

Because OMG SOCIALISM!!!111!eleven!

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Nov 10th 2010 at 9:03:18 AM

I'm agreeing with Barkey. It doesn't need more money so much as better written standards. The current model of "ten percent of students are failing" "ADD MORE CLASS TIME FOR EVERY STUDENT" is just retarded.

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ChristopherAlgoo Red Oni from New York City Since: Jan, 2001
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#14: Nov 10th 2010 at 9:17:36 AM

Allow me to be the first person to say

lol fiscal conservatism

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#15: Nov 10th 2010 at 10:46:44 AM

Obviously, the problem is that they're spending their money unwisely.

They should spend a few hundred million dollars to hire some better consultants-who'll just tell them that they're wasting all their money hiring expensive consultants!

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#16: Nov 10th 2010 at 6:52:03 PM

^Sounds like a Dilbert cartoon...

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#17: Nov 10th 2010 at 6:52:50 PM

^^ Knowing how government operates, they'd actually fall for that.

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#18: Nov 10th 2010 at 6:54:03 PM

You know, I feel like the Tea Party and its message is sort of the culmination of the sound-byte society. As I understand it, the old conservative orthodoxy was that taxes are generally bad, active word being generally. It was understood that there were some situations where higher taxes were good, or at least the lesser of two evils. Nowadays, it feels like that message has been dumbed down to "All taxes are evil." Look at the House republicans: they claim to want to fix the federal deficit, but refuse to allow a tax cut to expire that most economists, liberal and conservative, think needs to expire for the US to have any chance of paying down its debt. There isn't enough money that can be cut to make up for that without horribly gutting social services, and God only knows the effect that would have on the economy. I'm sure it's much the same with Texas, California, and pretty much every other state in the country with a budget deficit. (Who from Wisconsin heard the "Mr. Tax-Raising Politician Man" radio ad in 2006?)

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#19: Nov 10th 2010 at 6:55:21 PM

Well...this school spent $75,000 to hire Sarah Palin to speak at a fund-raiser which they are hoping will raise...several hundred dollars...

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#20: Nov 10th 2010 at 7:45:53 PM

The $75,000 were paid by private donors though. Who apparently cared a great deal more about funding their favored politician than funding their school.

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#21: Nov 10th 2010 at 8:01:46 PM

If Palin had even an ounce of class, she would have donated some of her fee right back. But nope! Not Caribou Barbie!

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jewelleddragon Also known as Katz from Pasadena, CA Since: Apr, 2009
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#22: Nov 11th 2010 at 11:01:58 AM

Nowadays, it feels like that message has been dumbed down to "All taxes are evil."

It's true—I've talked to people who say that all taxes are inherently extortion.

I guess said people are anarchists.

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#23: Nov 11th 2010 at 11:32:39 AM

Or maybe they're running an anarcho-syndicalist commune. Or are communists, since at that level it turns into the same thing. TAANSTAFL, if you want things like armies, police, schools, and roads, someone has to pay for them.

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#24: Nov 11th 2010 at 12:50:24 PM

And people will usually pick army. Because even if you live in a smelly crap hole knowing you can inflict something worst on someone with a different culture than you is always important.

I'd like to run as a politician once and just start pointing out every lie that the PR people want you to tell.

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#25: Nov 11th 2010 at 12:53:32 PM

^ Good luck winning with that kind of platform.

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