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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#21801: Sep 7th 2015 at 2:00:11 PM

Well, given that we know the Administratum is a sprawling morass that's managed to misplace entire planets and systems before...

"Yup. That tasted purple."
theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#21802: Sep 7th 2015 at 2:11:36 PM

This is the same organization that sent a long-destroyed regiment to defend a world, then when that didn't happen sentenced that entire regiment to be executed.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#21803: Sep 7th 2015 at 9:31:52 PM

[up]To be fair, the problem with the administratum is that most of comunication are dificult if not downright impossible, after all in this setting there isnt any sci way to comunicating to other planet so they cheat with magic(and of course in this setting is magic the one who tell you "I aint explain shit")

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21804: Sep 8th 2015 at 3:20:04 PM

Read 'The Games at Carcharias' last night. Really enjoyed it. Heaps of little details about Astartes life right before everything hit the fan.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21806: Sep 8th 2015 at 6:08:15 PM

Negative, it is a short story in one of the collections. Given that it's near the back of my omnibus, I'm guessing it was originally in Treacheries of the Space Marines (or Betrayals of the Space Marines or whatever it's called).

Jenaiqueserasera Every mission's a suicide mission! from U States of A Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#21807: Sep 9th 2015 at 3:22:58 PM

Divisioning and number-tracking of the Guard is based off of thousands of offices rather than just one group. Like with the Orks and Tyranids, the Guard is so gigantic that it's very hard to keep track of every single group. Guard falls in the middle of the Orks (barely any real organization) and the Nids (unified hive mind) in terms of their own organization. The Administratum just has so much to keep track of that it's impossible to do it all. Hell, some outer frontier planets are nigh-independent due to the extreme rarity of Imperial government influence. It also explains why the inner worlds are industrial megalopolises while there are some far-far outer worlds that still function on agriculture and nomadic subsistence farming. According to Dawn of War, one such planet is still practically stuck in the 19th century in terms of technology. Imperium's just too massive and lacks the infrastructure to keep everything equal across the galaxy.

edited 9th Sep '15 3:25:56 PM by Jenaiqueserasera

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21809: Sep 10th 2015 at 6:16:54 AM

I'm starting an escalation league this Saturday (provided my opponent doesn't have to postpone due to medical issues). It's starting at 500 pts per army and increasing by 250 pts for each round. He's playing Tyranids...suggestions would be helpful for a list. I'll post the list I came up with last night when I get more time.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21810: Sep 10th 2015 at 12:48:31 PM

Apologies for the double post. I came up with 2 lists...if the builds for some of the figures seem odd, it's because they're played as WYSIWYG.

First:

  • Librarian, ML 2, stock otherwise
  • 5-man Tac squad w/heavy bolter, sgt. w/combi-flamer, in a drop pod w/deathwind launcher
  • 5-man Tac squad w/heavy bolter, sgt. w/combi-melta, in a stock Rhino
  • 5-man Devastator squad w/lascannon, plasma cannon, and 2 missile launchers, sgt. w/storm bolter

Second:

  • Librarian, completely stock
  • 5-man Tac squad w/heavy bolter, sgt. w/combi-flamer
  • 5-man Tac squad w/heavy bolter, sgt. w/combi-melta
  • 5-man Devastator squad w/lascannon, plasma cannon, and 2 missile launchers, sgt. w/storm bolter
  • 5-man Assault squad, 2 flamers, sgt. w/plasma pistol and power sword

I'm also debating whether or not to put my Ironclad in the drop pod w/dual heavy flamers and try to build around that.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21811: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:38:33 PM

I reckon you should. Ironclad in a pod is a tough and powerful unit at sub-1000 points. I feel like you'd get a lot of mileage out of it.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#21812: Sep 11th 2015 at 1:42:33 AM

I agree. A Dread of any type seems good in small games.

On a different note, I recently finished Interrogator-Chaplain Asmodai

edited 11th Sep '15 1:42:47 AM by SebastianGray

SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#21813: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:47:09 PM


This post was thumped by the Eldritch Flyswatter of Horror

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21814: Sep 12th 2015 at 9:08:49 AM

[up][up] Nice work. [tup]

Gonna run with the Ironclad, a Predator w/heavy bolters, two tac squads completely bare except for a flamer, the drop pod for one of those squads, and a ML 2 librarian.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#21815: Sep 12th 2015 at 3:40:13 PM

[up][up] Nice work. [tup]

Thanks

Gonna run with the Ironclad, a Predator w/heavy bolters, two tac squads completely bare except for a flamer, the drop pod for one of those squads, and a ML 2 librarian.

Personally I would go with a Razorback rather than a Predator as you then have a little more flexibility but that is just me.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21816: Sep 12th 2015 at 4:30:45 PM

I second the Predator. Bare-bones Razorbacks stopped being efficient when they stopped costing 40 points, and an upgraded Razorback is still remarkably fragile. Having the Predator and the Ironclad means two threats with FA 13, which forces some tough decisions on your opponents' side.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#21817: Sep 12th 2015 at 4:52:12 PM

[up]Your probably right, I could be letting my Sister of Battle experiences (where transports are a necessity so that the Sisters can survive more than a couple of turns with my habitually poor save rolls) get the better of me.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21818: Sep 12th 2015 at 7:24:32 PM

Well, I lost pretty badly. My opponent went for a "bugzilla" list with three Zoanthropes, a Harpy, two Mucolid Spores, and a Tyrannofex. I was able to last through 6 turns and ended up killing the Harpy and a Zoanthrope but he whittled me down with his psychic attacks and killed most of one Tac squad with one of the spores. I lost the Ironclad, my librarian, and the drop pod to his Warp Blasts. In hindsight, I really should've used the Predator to go after the Zoanthropes but I was afraid of what the Harpy could do, plus one of the special game rules was that whoever killed the unit/model that was worth the most points got a VP for Big Game Hunter.

Still, it was a fun game and my opponent rated my painting really highly for league points...felt kinda bad giving him a low score on that but the only things he had painted were the Zoanthropes, everything else was bare plastic.

edited 12th Sep '15 7:29:13 PM by Willbyr

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21819: Sep 12th 2015 at 10:06:50 PM

I would not feel bad about giving him a low painting score, given what you've said!

SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#21820: Sep 13th 2015 at 3:47:35 PM

I just remember a cool idea I had. You know how my Guard army is based off the British in WWI? What if I had this Spiritualist psyker who summons up the spirits of dead guardsmen as counts-as Daemons? cool

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21821: Sep 13th 2015 at 6:42:17 PM

Legit. Unorthodox, but legit.

I had a similar idea for a Librarian calling upon the fallen heroes of a Chapter.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#21822: Sep 14th 2015 at 4:03:08 AM

[up] You can do that in the Deathwatch RPG.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21823: Sep 14th 2015 at 1:26:27 PM

Neato! I should give those books a proper read and get inspired

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#21824: Sep 15th 2015 at 1:21:15 PM

Sounds like Heresy to the Ordo Malleus.tongue

edited 15th Sep '15 1:21:24 PM by Rationalinsanity

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011

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