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blancaleona Pos aquí nomás from Mexican jungle Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#84376: Sep 20th 2014 at 3:13:20 PM

That was fun. I knew the Architect was a time lord. It was when the Doctor said why he hated him that I went: "Oh like you. Wait. It's the Doctor isn't he?" So glad Sai and the other one (I forgot the name) didn't die. I can already see the shippers exploding after that ending. Not that I mind.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#84377: Sep 20th 2014 at 3:25:23 PM

Time Heist Review

I'm trying not to read it yet, but. It's up.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#84378: Sep 20th 2014 at 4:17:18 PM

So next week, we see the Doctor Who version of a Turian! I'm excited.

Also, tonight's episode was pretty fun. I liked it. smile

I swear, I was gonna be so mad when it looked like Saibra died. Along with that bank customer dude. Like, please, do not kill the only two black people in the entire episode, ugh. So glad that wasn't actually what happened.

EDIT: dang, really surprised at the lack of discussion in the thread.

edited 20th Sep '14 6:08:00 PM by higherbrainpattern

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#84379: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:17:25 PM

Damn. Shit like Robots of Sherwood pops up, people come from far and wide to talk about why it's horrible, but nothing about this ep?

Anyway I actually considered that the Architect was the Doctor as a joke, but once he figured it out, I did too. That only left the why. This one was nice, and I hope we see those two again truthfully. They were cool.

Saibra seemed to be a combination of Rogue and Mystique. I found that odd.

Next week, if Danny doesn't join then, he will soon.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#84380: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:20:36 PM

Clara just doesn't seem as interested in going on adventures now that the Doctor isn't young and handsome anymore. Now she seems more interested in dating someone who is young and handsome.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
ZeroPotential Since: Jun, 2010
#84381: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:21:02 PM

Yeah the reception to this ep is a bit muted. Not much to talk about, I guess? I remember liking it when I read the script but something was lost on the transition from page to screen, can't really put my finger on the problem. Oh well, not every Doctor Who episode has to be something like last week's.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#84382: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:22:18 PM

That was a really fun episode. Nothing to write home about, I guess, but I still liked it a lot.

The two supporting characters were really nice, and damn did the Teller look really good. Seems they've stepped up the CGI and prosthetics a lot.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#84383: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:25:34 PM

/glances back and forth

Sure is dead in here.

But- uh. This episode was decent. A few clunky bits here and there- Delphox told her mooks to kill the Doctor and Clara and then left the room, instead of using the Teller like she did on everyone else for no clear reason. But overrall decent.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#84385: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:28:52 PM

I'm just kinda wondering how much of the social commentary inherent in "black woman has to disguise self as old white guy to enter bank for rich people, inadvertently gets a black man accused of her crimes and convicted without trial" was intentional.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#84387: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:29:32 PM

I like. Was good.

I once listened to a writing podcast about how there's two kinds of heist story: the kind where the audience doesn't know the plan and it goes off without a hitch, and the kind where the audience knows the plan and there are complications. I like that this episode presented a new kind: the kind where there are complications and no one knows the plan, not even the characters.

"We're home, Chewie."
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#84389: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:32:27 PM

Oh, another thing: "the Teller." I love that; that's such a fantastic pun.

"We're home, Chewie."
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#84390: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:32:50 PM

I'm just kinda wondering how much of the social commentary inherent in "black woman has to disguise self as old white guy to enter bank for rich people, inadvertently gets a black man accused of her crimes and convicted without trial" was intentional.
I noticed that too. I hope it was intentional.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#84391: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:33:23 PM

the descendants of the murdered Viking settlers in The Curse of Fenric

...Huh.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#84392: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:36:14 PM

@Wack'd, Mukora: I think the idea was that that guy was planning a crime entirely separate from what The Doctor was doing.

So, I mean, we do have a black man being convicted without a trial, but the disguised black woman's presence was completely coincidental and he was actually planning to commit a crime.

edited 20th Sep '14 7:36:37 PM by Gilphon

emeriin Since: Jan, 2001
#84393: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:37:00 PM

@Mullon Uh, no? In Deep Breath she made it as clear as possible that it wasn't the "not a Pretty Boy" bit she hated but the "being a crazy asshole to her".

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#84394: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:37:40 PM

Was he?

I thought the implication was he was completely innocent, and the Teller was actually looking for the Doctor and Co.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#84395: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:40:39 PM

[up][up] That.

[up][up][up]All we really know about the guy is that he was feeling guilty.

Not what he was feeling guilty about.

Everyone's guilty about something.

edited 20th Sep '14 7:43:07 PM by unnoun

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#84396: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:48:52 PM

The scene leaves it ambiguous.

The script only describes him as "suited customer", and neither Saibra's race nor that of her disguise is given (though the disguise form is specified as "older man"), so if that angle of the commentary is intentional, it's not on Stephan Thompson's part.

edited 20th Sep '14 7:51:27 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#84397: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:49:23 PM

Yay casting directors!

edited 20th Sep '14 7:51:07 PM by unnoun

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#84398: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:56:13 PM

You know , I hold sports in great contempt. I can even call it an anti-love. Yes, not just hate, but love in a negative quantity. Truly the purest of all the hatreds. So when some tub if lard that never leaves the TV lounge or his room and watches nothing but American football, keeping me from my weekly Doctor Who, the one time I ever ask of this dorm to occupy the television, my loathing... Deepens.

I bet Time Heist was great. I'll never know.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#84399: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:57:52 PM

[up][up]Bit sad that there's both little enough behind-the-scenes material for this episode that we can take time out to list every female villain ever, and few enough female villains that this takes under a minute.

edited 20th Sep '14 8:00:03 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012

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