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This is the thread for discussion of The Order of the Stick plot, characters, etc. We have a separate thread for discussing game rules and mechanics. Excessive rules discussions here may be thumped as off-topic.

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Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#36576: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:52:29 AM

Second after Homestuck, really.

Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#36577: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:55:16 AM

[up][up]After those wait periods: yes tongue

Matues Impossible Gender Forge Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36578: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:57:21 AM

There are some cleric spells who's proper names are [Deity's] Might or [Deity's] Power. I feel like they've had placeholder names put in, like how Mordenkainen's name was replaced with Mage.

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#36579: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:43:39 AM

As far as I remember, in the last few updates they usually came one week after each other or was multiple pages long, so I can guess an average of almost one page per week. This one came after almost 2 weeks and is only 1 page long, so it seems to be the exception, and I hope it will remain an exception too.

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stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#36580: Oct 11th 2015 at 5:41:54 PM

You know, Durkon really should have thought about those AC, To hit, casting and other penalties before going that large in a cramped cleric hall, and what happens if he tramples a cleric?

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#36581: Oct 11th 2015 at 8:32:01 PM

I was thinking about that yesterday and wondering if Durkula will make the mistake of either accidentally or purposefully harming someone other than Roy, and that will result in other clerics and bodyguards teaming up against him.

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#36582: Oct 11th 2015 at 8:38:03 PM

I'm kind of surprised that hasn't happened already. He's a giant that climbed up to the second floor with a bunch of clerics on the ground.

Geoduck bivalve from Pacific Northwest Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
bivalve
#36583: Oct 11th 2015 at 8:53:41 PM

[up]Maybe it has happened. Roy's going to survive this somehow, and the world's not going to end, so having all the other clerics at least drive Durkula away leaves him "alive" and free to fulfill the prophecy.

wild mass guessDurkula reaches out to smash Roy, gloating, a voice cuts him off from off-panel, and we cut to see one or more clerics trampled into the ground.

edited 11th Oct '15 8:55:12 PM by Geoduck

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36584: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:08:07 AM

I do wonder how the rule against attacking other clerics/bodyguards is enforced.

I mean it could be a magical geas that instantly kills anyone who breaks the rule.

Or, it could be a pact between gods and clerics that if anyone attacks another, everyone else will join in against them.

Or, I suppose it's just a rule and no one expects it to need to be enforced.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#36585: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:08:36 AM

Except that nullifies their votes too. Hopefully he only smashed the "destroy" votes

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Kostya from Everywhere Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#36586: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:10:48 AM

I'm guessing if you attack another cleric you revoke your right to protection. After that the rest of the clerics and guardians can attack you if they want.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36587: Oct 12th 2015 at 7:11:56 AM

That probably makes the most sense. It would be funny though if Roy pushed Durkula into a random cleric, causing powerful runes to take effect and Durkula to burst into flames.

DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#36588: Oct 12th 2015 at 8:13:14 AM

He would need a snappy one liner.

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stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#36589: Oct 13th 2015 at 2:11:57 AM

I'm starting to wonder what Hel's plan actually is. I mean, she's been plotting this for an awfully long time, and Durkula did murder some ushers for some reason besides lulz.

Does her plan ride on her own cleric not getting smacked by bodyguard (Or two if Belkar gets back.)

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#36590: Oct 13th 2015 at 2:19:31 AM

She may have not realised that loophole, and Durkula is doing pretty well to handle himself in the situation anyway.

DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#36591: Oct 13th 2015 at 5:53:58 AM

who would think that Roy could beat a vampire cleric? Besides us?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#36592: Oct 13th 2015 at 6:57:09 AM

Elan.

He realizes, like us, the options are either "Roy wins" or "the strip is over" so he's well aware Durkula can't win.

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#36593: Oct 13th 2015 at 7:43:30 AM

Maybe it has happened. Roy's going to survive this somehow, and the world's not going to end, so having all the other clerics at least drive Durkula away leaves him "alive" and free to fulfill the prophecy.

Durkula can't be "driven away". As the High Priest of Hel, he is bound by the rules of the Godsmoot just as all the others are. Durkula cannot leave until the event has arrived at a conclusion.

If the situation turns against him, he's trapped like a rat in a cage.

edited 13th Oct '15 7:45:25 AM by TobiasDrake

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#36594: Oct 13th 2015 at 12:05:34 PM

A rat in a cage who can turn immaterial and thus immune to any kind of damage.

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#36595: Oct 13th 2015 at 12:11:16 PM

Not immune. Depends on how Rich plays it, but vampires in gaseous form can still be attacked.

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#36596: Oct 13th 2015 at 12:25:45 PM

Yep.

Given that Durkula doesn't have a coffin and wouldn't be able to retreat to it until the Godsmoot ends even if he did, suffice it to say he has to win here to survive. And because his victory would result in the world being destroyed and, by relation, the fulfillment of The Dark One's plans, it's a safe assumption that he will not win here.

With both retreat and victory off the table, Durkula has created a situation in which, narratively, the only possible outcome is his own death.

edited 13th Oct '15 12:29:51 PM by TobiasDrake

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#36597: Oct 13th 2015 at 2:52:46 PM

The unmaking of the world is entirely plausible. Elan's happy ending has to end in death eventually. Sooner May not be worse than later. Elan really is as happy as he can be. Besides the vote for the end of the physical world isn't the end of the story. Maybe the vote to unmake the world simply sets a timer for our heroes

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#36598: Oct 13th 2015 at 3:04:10 PM

The gods said it would take them about 15 minutes to unmake the world. That's a pretty short timer.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36599: Oct 13th 2015 at 5:45:06 PM

Yeah.

Also, it seems unlikely to me that Durkula will be killed so soon.

Since the beginning of the strip, Burlew was planning to have him vampirized, and that's only happened relatively recently. And I think there's more emotional issues for Durkon to dredge up.

Like in the earlier strip when Durkon was asking about his father, there was an implication that something was being kept from him. Also, I can't point to something specific, but that strip and some of the other flashbacks made me think that Durkon had a falling out with his mother (at some point prior to his exile).

DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#36600: Oct 13th 2015 at 6:17:42 PM

You know, if another cleric showed up, Roy would suddenly become the least of Durkula's problems.

Or if someone broke the truce and a general melee broke out. Whoever won the melee would win the vote, yes?

If Durkon could seize one moment of control back- he could let Roy win. Or change his vote.

Orrrr- if something were to change Hel's mind. A better deal, maybe. Then she'd call him off.

Oh, the narrative possibilities that could branch off from this moment...

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