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Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from Hell-o, Island (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
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#22001: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:15:05 PM

"Just" an ass. He could have been an ass and an evil robot bent on world domination at the same time.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#22002: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:18:54 PM

Wait, you're discarding the possibility of him being a robot? With all this emoting he's acting more like a Gunnerkrigg robot than he has since he showed up in class.

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#22003: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:22:15 PM

But Anthony was already a super emotional person. I see nothing wrong with him showing more emotion.

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#22004: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:23:50 PM

I was trying to make one of your human jokes, referencing the un-robotic behavior typically displayed by the Gunnerkrigg bots. It seems I require more training.

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#22005: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:31:07 PM

Ah, I see. Joke. Yes, those are things that exist, aren't they?

Speaking of which: a friend and I were talking about Eglamore beating Anthony within an inch of his life if they met again the other day, and somehow the conversation got to Jones.

The thing we couldn't agree on was: how does Jones choose her words?

I argued that, as an emotionless being who came into existence long before evolution or anyone to communicate with, human languages would not come naturally to Jones and her attempts to explain herself, so even today, she could be choosing her words like someone who is not really fluent in a language does. What I couldn't decide is what drives the decision making process: does she say things because she is expected to, or because they are the closest approximations to what she is thinking/experiencing the humans have come up with?

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#22006: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:48:56 PM

I don't think those are necessarily distinct options. If one is trying to express oneself through imperfect human language, it is likely to be more effective to say the expected things, which ones human audience is more familiar with and able to more easily understand.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#22007: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:50:11 PM

Setting aside that the only one who thinks Jones is emotionless is the lady herself, it's not like she doesn't understand emotions or is without thoughts or even the ability to learn. She has opinions, desires and the ability to think in a way similar to human beings. I don't see why we need to assume her thoughts can't be expressed in language.

edited 31st Jul '15 10:51:15 PM by Arha

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#22008: Jul 31st 2015 at 10:51:56 PM

Well, no, what I meant was: I wonder how much of what Jones says is truly representative of her, and how much is just her parroting words to go unharassed by humans.

Your human languages are imperfect and confusing. I don't know how you stand them.

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#22011: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:07:59 AM

So for Annie he was gone a few years. For the others he was gone for over a decade.

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#22012: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:14:58 AM

Man, Tom is really good with subtle facial expressions. And I wonder what exactly happened with Eglamore, we never did see how she went from being with him to the guy he hated, who's not a charmer by any means. I suspect a Lily/James/Snape sort of situation.

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#22013: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:19:04 AM

Man. Seeing Donny's face right next to Tony's like that is weird.

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#22014: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:24:19 AM

What the hell did Surma see in this guy, anyway? <stumped> I mean, I've met 12-year-olds with better emotional intelligence and savvy. -_-

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#22015: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:44:05 AM

Well, we do know that Eglamore didn't make enough time for Surma.

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#22016: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:00:57 AM

What the hell did Surma see in this guy, anyway? <stumped> I mean, I've met 12-year-olds with better emotional intelligence and savvy. -_-
Maybe a contrast to her own fiery nature?

edited 3rd Aug '15 1:01:31 AM by MattII

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#22017: Aug 3rd 2015 at 1:10:23 AM

Perhaps he was really good in the sack.

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#22018: Aug 3rd 2015 at 5:16:42 AM

I recall earlier comics where it was clear he did like her and was a bright person. Maybe she found some inner beauty or something?

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#22019: Aug 3rd 2015 at 8:43:53 AM

Man, the suspense is killing me. Wednesday can’t come fast enough. I can’t help to think that the Tony we see is just someone playing a role. He plays the role of the stern and stoic parental figure when he is around Anny, he plays the role of the wise-cracking friend when he is around Donny and he played the role of the loving husband when around Surma.

Also, can someone remind me exactly why Eglamore dislikes Tony again? Does it simply have to do with jealousy over Surma?

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#22020: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:00:29 AM

I'm presently of the opinion that what we're seeing here is the real, honest Tony, and the fact he puts up such a stonewall face when dealing with Annie is just him trying really hard to be a good parent to her but utterly and completely failing at it.

At any rate, I can sympathize with him a bit more knowing what the hell he's been through, even if that doesn't change that he's kind of awful at parenting.

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#22021: Aug 3rd 2015 at 9:13:10 AM

[up][up] AFAIK the exact reason hasn't been completely revealed, although her going from Eglamore to Tony had to be galling. Tony's comment sure makes it sound like there was some sort of dustup over her, but without more details that's hard to say for certain.

[up] Agreed...the walls finally seem to be coming down. I just hope that Donald doesn't mess up and reveal the blinker stone or that Annie doesn't interfere with this meeting in some way; that might make Tony clam up for good.

edited 3rd Aug '15 9:14:33 AM by Willbyr

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#22022: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:08:43 AM

Interesting how he stopped himself from saying "she died" and instead went with "I failed".

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#22023: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:44:29 AM

Could Tony be projecting some of his feelings of being a failure onto Annie?

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#22024: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:24:15 PM

Eglamore didn't like Anthony even as kids, though.

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#22025: Aug 3rd 2015 at 4:01:45 PM

@ #22012 Only this time Snape got the girl.

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