Naruto

I dont know besides the Naruto & Sakura's disgraceful moments the Summit arc was pretty cool for Sasuke's group suffering one hell of a humiliation conga at then hands of the Kage.

From someone who enjoyed everything after the Pain arc (minus one plot twist), I'd say it was still worth a read and good

edited 12th Oct '15 2:03:26 PM by Archivist10

Blasphemy!

I enjoyed the arc because it gave us Lolsuke, the troll walk and that one moment where Sasuke upgrades his Susan after ranting about killing everyone and then anti-climatically going blind in the next page.

RIGHT!? I mean the little shit talked such a big game but fucking blinded himself like a jack-ass. What a dumb-ass, hahahaha.

I am aware that my opinions are...controversial to say the least.

True, but we do have the same argument for the reason we hate the War Arc (I know, there's also the Summit arc, etc...), so I'm curious to hear the reason you like it.

In the same boat as archivist, and I don't even hate the plot twist either.

In honesty? I like it because is epic, I know many despise its length but in all honesty I had no problem with it, hell I expected it, if one of the most popular long runners in the world had a war as its final arc and it didn't feel like a great saga I'd feel cheated.

Plus I liked the power escalation, the ninetails, Tentails and Sage's power had been hyped for ages and we finally got to see them in all their glory.

Many characters got some pretty epic moments too: Guy, Gaara, Tsunade, Choji, Bee, Sakura, Kakashi etc.

I liked all the fights and we got some awesome powers. It was nice seeing Naruto finally get several fights whereas most of Part 2 beforehand kept him away from 1 on 1 fights.

The art also got better, it became ore and more fluid as the arc went on and more detailed.

Was the final plot twist put of nowhere? Fuck yes.

But at least it provided a cool boss fight.

And the final fight was also badass as hell!

edited 13th Oct '15 7:09:38 AM by Archivist10

To be honest, the worst parts about the series are mostly the Uchiha...and Sakura; everything not related to them is actually pretty decent.

It was ridiculous. Naruto and Sasuke received random power-ups from ninja Jesus, that battle with the Ten Tails never progressed, Madara keeped revealing new powers every time he was outclassed, and instead of "epic", the Edo Tensei were basically filler fuel, not much better than Monster of the Week. Kishimoto even retconned Gaara's story for no good reason.

The Ten Tails and the Sage should never have appeared. **** conservation of detail man, this series was born into the ground, it should have stayed there.

And the final fight was bad,bad,bad! **** those flashbacks man! **** Itachi man!

edited 13th Oct '15 9:22:09 AM by JusticEqualsVengeance

The art sucked. Copy-pasted from the anime. Plastic, artificial. Boring.

Also, saying everything not related to the Uchiha and Sakura is decent is like saying you can rip out the left side of my heart; it should make me bleed and die. Naruto, as we know it, isn't Naruto without the Uchihas and Sakura, sad as it can be. Also, you would kill one of the finest parts, the fight with Sasori.

There's plenty of things to like that aren't related to the Uchiha or Sakura's failing as a character.

Hearing about Kishimoto's appearance at NYCC was pretty cool, especially with him being in dark with how popular the franchise really was in the West.

I personally never had much against the Uchiha's and their powerset, they supplied cool villains and the powers, though powerful, were not invincible (at least for high enough ranking fighters), aside from the perfect Susano'o (and even that could have probably been beaten by Particle style).

Plus, aside from a couple of things and her character at the beginning of Part 1 she's nowhere near as bad as people say.

edited 13th Oct '15 2:09:16 PM by Archivist10

I think the main problem was that we were supposed to agree that the Uchia should get off scott free of all punishment for their crimes just cause "reasons"

Yeah, maybe sustained beams of particle style about the same volume as the one Onoki used to cut down the pollen forest, while dodging the sword and getting close enough to the forehead jewel mid-air, with a bunch of S-rank ninjas providing support.

Madara was story breaking, and singlehandedly exceeded everyone's hyperbole about the Uchiha being overpowered.

My main beef with the Uchiha is that they became a Plot Tumor. Once they became descendants of Kaguya and the Sage of the Six paths, it became far too difficult to find any major event in Naruto that wasn't caused by an Uchiha or someone related to the Uchiha. You literally had to be related to an Uchiha to be relevant in the main plot and the manga's history.

It seems like when a Susano'o receives substantial damage to repair itself it must be recreated from zero. So all it takes is getting a decent enough hit.

And in fairness Madara had some powers which weren't natural to Uchihas and the result of genetic modification.

edited 13th Oct '15 2:38:41 PM by Archivist10

Madara was able to use eyes powers without eyes. He was overpowered before then but that was the moment he became a Villain Sue, he broke an established rule of the narrative just because.

Madara was Kishi's attempt at making a Naruto version of Aizen...

or more accurately the parody version that people had come to accept him as

...He succeeded

edited 13th Oct '15 2:53:53 PM by FrozenWolf2

To be fair Aizen was a parody of himself during the Deicide arc because he no longer needed half-baked plans because he'd just No-Sell everything until Ichigo came along.

Though at least Ichigo dealt the defeating blow on him instead of some filler villain coming out of nowhere.

I don't think even Parody Aizen was as bad as Canon Madara

I mean... Canon Madara I could see finding away to spam Izanagi... without eyeballs

But Aizen didn't came out of a casket in the middle of the climax.