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** One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage.
** [[TragicHero Turin]] -- is he completely helpless against the effects of Morgoth's curse, or is he the cause of his own downfall?

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** One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion Aldarion's and Erendis' Erendis's marriage.
** [[TragicHero Turin]] Túrin]] -- is he completely helpless against the effects of Morgoth's curse, or is he the cause of his own downfall?
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* TearJerker: Isildur's death, made all the worse by his regret over taking the Ring and the fact his sons die in the same battle.
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* ObviousBeta: A rare literary example; the title is "''Unfinished Tales''", after all. Even the more relatively complete stories suffer from odd gaps, questionably canon elements, and footnotes explaining there to be multiple different versions of the same events.
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* ObviousBeta: A rare literary example; the title is "Unfinished Tales", after all. Even the more relatively complete stories suffer from odd gaps, questionable canonicity, and footnotes explaining there to be multiple different versions of the same events.

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* ObviousBeta: A rare literary example; the title is "Unfinished Tales", "''Unfinished Tales''", after all. Even the more relatively complete stories suffer from odd gaps, questionable canonicity, questionably canon elements, and footnotes explaining there to be multiple different versions of the same events.
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* ObviousBeta: A rare literary example; the title is "Unfinished Tales", after all. Even the more relatively complete stories suffer from odd gaps, questionable canonicity, and footnotes explaining there to be multiple different versions of the same events.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: ''The Mariner's Wife'' feels extremely out of place when compared to the other stories. Whereas every other entry is either providing details about the adventures of Tolkien's characters or providing backstory and history for the lands and peoples of Arda, TMW is about Aldarion and Erendis' courtship and marriage. It has no bearing on anything else in the entire legendarium and is never brought up again.
** The closest thing to an explanation for why it's in the story is that Elendil, the first High King of Gondor and Arnor, was personally fond of the story and made sure it was recorded.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: ''The Mariner's Wife'' feels extremely out of place when compared to the other stories. Whereas every other entry is either providing details about the adventures of Tolkien's characters or providing backstory and history for the lands and peoples of Arda, TMW is about Aldarion and Erendis' courtship and marriage. It has no bearing on anything else in the entire legendarium and is never brought up again.
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again. The closest thing to an explanation for why it's in the story is that Elendil, the first High King of Gondor and Arnor, was personally fond of the story and made sure it was recorded.
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* Tearjerker: Isildur's death, made all the worse by his regret over taking the Ring and the fact his sons die in the same battle.

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* Tearjerker: TearJerker: Isildur's death, made all the worse by his regret over taking the Ring and the fact his sons die in the same battle.
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* Tearjerker: Isildur's death, made all the worse by his regret over taking the Ring and the fact his sons die in the same battle.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: Here it's revealed that Galadriel's husband Celeborn had the birth name ''Teleporno''. "Celeborn" is the same name but in a different Elvish language. HilariousInHindsight because the name certainly predates porn on television by several decades.
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** The closest thing to an explanation for why it's in the story is that Elendil, the first High King of Gondor and Arnor, was personally fond of the story and made sure it was recorded.
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* NightmareFuel: Sauron using Celebrimbor's arrow-riddled corpse as a battle banner. Particularly disturbing because it's something that could ''easily'' happen in real life, and you don't have to look far to find comparable examples of barbarism in history.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage.

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One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: ''The Mariner's Wife'' feels extremely out of place when compared to the other stories. Whereas every other entry is either providing details about the adventures of Tolkien's characters or providing backstory and history for the lands and peoples of Arda, TMW is about Aldarion and Erendis' courtship and marriage. It has no bearing on anything else in the entire legendarium and is never brought up again.
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** [[TragicHero Turin]] -- is he completely helpless against the effects of Morgoth's curse, or is he the cause of his own downfall?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage.marriage.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage. A careful reading reveals that while Aldarion made ''some'' concessions Erendis never gave an inch. And she pretty much loses this reader's sympathy when she jumps to the conclusion that Aldarion has deliberately broken his word to her when he does not return on time. The thought that something could have happened to him clearly never crosses her mind. For Erendis it is ''all'' about her.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage. A careful reading reveals that while Aldarion made ''some'' concessions Erendis never gave an inch. And she pretty much loses this reader's sympathy when she jumps to the conclusion that Aldarion has deliberately broken his word to her when he does not return on time. The thought that something could have happened to him clearly never crosses her mind. For Erendis it is ''all'' about her.
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* One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage. A careful reading reveals that while Aldarion made ''some'' concessions Erendis never gave an inch. And she pretty much loses this reader's sympathy when she jumps to the conclusion that Aldarion has deliberately broken his word to her when he does not return on time. The thought that something could have happened to him clearly never crosses her mind. For Erendis it is ''all'' about her.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage. A careful reading reveals that while Aldarion made ''some'' concessions Erendis never gave an inch. And she pretty much loses this reader's sympathy when she jumps to the conclusion that Aldarion has deliberately broken his word to her when he does not return on time. The thought that something could have happened to him clearly never crosses her mind. For Erendis it is ''all'' about her.
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* One can argue who is most at fault in the ruin of Aldarion and Erendis' marriage. A careful reading reveals that while Aldarion made ''some'' concessions Erendis never gave an inch. And she pretty much loses this reader's sympathy when she jumps to the conclusion that Aldarion has deliberately broken his word to her when he does not return on time. The thought that something could have happened to him clearly never crosses her mind. For Erendis it is ''all'' about her.

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