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* Spock advises they land the shuttle some distance from Paradise City, as landing any closer would risk detection. He must have taken a page from [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader's playbook.]]
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** Kirk tells [=McCoy=] and Spock "I've always known I'll die alone." It was originally harsher after ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'', in which Kirk died without either one around; but it's ''heartbreaking'' now that Creator/WilliamShatner has outlived both Creator/DeForestKelley and Creator/LeonardNimoy. And then, in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', [[spoiler:it's revealed that Spock has died, with the strong implication that he was the last surviving TOS crewmember.]]

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** Kirk tells [=McCoy=] and Spock "I've always known I'll die alone." It was originally harsher after ''Film/StarTrekGenerations'', [[spoiler: in which Kirk died without either one around; around]]; but it's ''heartbreaking'' now that Creator/WilliamShatner has outlived both Creator/DeForestKelley and Creator/LeonardNimoy. And then, in ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', [[spoiler:it's revealed that Spock has died, with the strong implication that he was the last surviving TOS crewmember.]]
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**SF Debris likened it to Yosemite Sam screaming "Oh I hate that rabbit!"


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** The shots of Klaa's Bird-of-prey traveling at warp speed looks exactly like what it is; a model in front of a green screen. This was below the standard of the warp-travel effect they were using on ''The Next Generation.''
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***In this case, it's more like fan ''disservice'' given that Nichols was in her mid fifties at the time.
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* Spock advises they land the shuttle some distance from Paradise City, as landing any closer would risk detection. He must have taken a page from [[Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack Darth Vader's playbook.]]
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** Nearly three decades after the film's release, Alex Honnold completed the actual first free solo ascent of El Capitan, as seen in the MediaNotes/AcademyAward-winning documentary ''Free Solo''.

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** Nearly three decades after the film's release, Alex Honnold completed the actual first free solo ascent of El Capitan, as seen in the MediaNotes/AcademyAward-winning documentary ''Free Solo''.''Film/FreeSolo''.

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** Nearly three decades after the film's release, Alex Honnold completed the actual first free solo ascent of El Capitan, as seen in the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward-winning documentary ''Free Solo''.

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** Nearly three decades after the film's release, Alex Honnold completed the actual first free solo ascent of El Capitan, as seen in the UsefulNotes/AcademyAward-winning MediaNotes/AcademyAward-winning documentary ''Free Solo''.



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem games based on movies have never had the best of reputations anyway, but it takes a special kind of bad for Paramount to have refused to release the game ''at all'', even if only a limited run to recoup some of the development costs.
* RetroactiveRecognition: By far the best remembered acting role by Lawrence Luckinbill, who's now far better known for being the uncle of Creator/TheWachowskis[[note]]As well as being the son-in-law of Creator/LucilleBall and Creator/DesiArnaz, whose Desilu company ironically produced the first season of ''The Original Series''.[[/note]] ([[Film/TheBoysInTheBand unless you're gay]]).

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem Platform/NintendoEntertainmentSystem games based on movies have never had the best of reputations anyway, but it takes a special kind of bad for Paramount to have refused to release the game ''at all'', even if only a limited run to recoup some of the development costs.
* RetroactiveRecognition: By far the best remembered acting role by Lawrence Luckinbill, who's now far better known for being the uncle of Creator/TheWachowskis[[note]]As well as being the son-in-law of Creator/LucilleBall and Creator/DesiArnaz, whose Desilu company ironically produced the first season of ''The Original Series''.[[/note]] ([[Film/TheBoysInTheBand unless you're gay]]).
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* ContestedSequel: It won three Creator/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original ''Enterprise'' crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all time. But it has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).

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* ContestedSequel: It won three Creator/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], MediaNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original ''Enterprise'' crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all time. But it has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).



** Sulu and Chekov have a few "LikeAnOldMarriedCouple" moments such as when they're lost in the woods in the opening. Which is even funnier after Creator/GeorgeTakei came out in real life years later. (Of course, Creator/WalterKoenig and the rest of the cast had known Takei was gay since the 60s).

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** Sulu and Chekov have a few "LikeAnOldMarriedCouple" LikeAnOldMarriedCouple moments such as when they're lost in the woods in the opening. Which is even funnier after Creator/GeorgeTakei came out in real life years later. (Of course, Creator/WalterKoenig and the rest of the cast had known Takei was gay since the 60s).
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** Sulu and Chekov have a few "LikeAnOldMarriedCouple" moments such as when they're lost in the woods in the opening. Which is even funnier after Creator/GeorgeTakei came out in real life years later. (Of course, Koenig and the rest of the cast had known Takei was gay since the 60s).

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** Sulu and Chekov have a few "LikeAnOldMarriedCouple" moments such as when they're lost in the woods in the opening. Which is even funnier after Creator/GeorgeTakei came out in real life years later. (Of course, Koenig Creator/WalterKoenig and the rest of the cast had known Takei was gay since the 60s).
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* ContestedSequel: It won three UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original ''Enterprise'' crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all time. But it has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).

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* ContestedSequel: It won three UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], Creator/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original ''Enterprise'' crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all time. But it has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).
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** Not to mention Sarek willingly married and had a child ''with a human''. What did he think was going to happen?!

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** Not to mention Sarek willingly married ''willingly married'' and had ''had a child ''with child'' '''''with a human''. human'''''. What did he think '''''think''''' was going to happen?!

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** When Klaa shoots at the ''Pioneer 10'' space probe, some brief HellIsThatNoise almost makes it sound like the probe is ''screaming'' before it gets blown up.

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** When Klaa shoots at the ''Pioneer 10'' space probe, some brief HellIsThatNoise noise almost makes it sound like the probe is ''screaming'' before it gets blown up.
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fails to explain why it was a wasted plot


** The Nimbus III parts ''could'' have been amazing. Desert planet filled with rogues and criminals? It easily could have been ''Star Trek''[='=]s [[Franchise/StarWars Tatooine]] but alas the Shat happened. For comparison, Nimbus was revisited in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' for a five-episode arc which gave it a ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' feel (a mix of SpaceWestern and {{Steampunk}}) for a good story. Imagine if this movie had Kirk in a SpaceWestern setting?

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** %%** The Nimbus III parts ''could'' have been amazing. Desert planet filled with rogues and criminals? It easily could have been ''Star Trek''[='=]s [[Franchise/StarWars Tatooine]] but alas the Shat happened. For comparison, Nimbus was revisited in ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' for a five-episode arc which gave it a ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' feel (a mix of SpaceWestern and {{Steampunk}}) for a good story. Imagine if this movie had Kirk in a SpaceWestern setting?
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** From the way tumblr and slashers tell it, the movie is just Kirk moving like he's going to kiss Spock (even does the usual clasping their arms beforehand thing), Spock telling him not in front of the Klingons, before Kirk looks embarrassed.
** Can't forget Uhura's fan dance.

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** From the way tumblr and slashers tell it, the movie is just Kirk moving like he's going to kiss Spock (even does the usual clasping their arms beforehand thing), Spock telling him not "Not in front of the Klingons, Klingons," before Kirk looks embarrassed.
** Can't Don't forget Uhura's fan dance.



** The ''entire movie'' could count as this to the franchise, as the "Search for God" plot is almost never referred to again after the fact.[[note]]The commentary for ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' reveals that this is because the writers apparently have ''an actual policy'' to never acknowledge this movie in any way, shape or form.[[/note]] ''Series/StarTrekStrangeNewWorlds'' would be the first to break this streak '''33''' Years after the film's release in 2022 by featuring Sybok as an important plot point.

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** The ''entire movie'' could count as this to the franchise, as the "Search for God" plot is almost never referred to again after the fact.[[note]]The commentary for ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'' reveals that this is because the writers apparently have ''an actual policy'' to never to acknowledge this movie in any way, shape or form.[[/note]] ''Series/StarTrekStrangeNewWorlds'' would be the first to break this streak '''33''' Years years after the film's release in 2022 by featuring Sybok as an important plot point.



* ContestedSequel: It won three UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original Enterprise crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all-time. But has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).
* EpilepticTrees: Believe it or not there's actually a small debate in the fandom about the species of the three-breasted cat girl stripper, particularly whether she's a Kzinti (as she was referred to as "Kzinrett", the word for female Kzinti in Larry Niven's Literature/KnownSpace novels) or a Draylaxian (who are mentioned in Series/StarTrekEnterprise as having three breasts).

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* ContestedSequel: It won three UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward[=s=], is widely considered the shining example of the StarTrekMovieCurse and at the very least the worst movie with the original Enterprise ''Enterprise'' crew, with some going so far as to consider it the worst ''Star Trek'' movie overall, or even one of the worst films of all-time. all time. But it has some defenders (see VindicatedByHistory).
* EpilepticTrees: Believe it or not not, there's actually a small debate in the fandom about the species of the three-breasted cat girl stripper, particularly whether she's a Kzinti (as she was referred to as "Kzinrett", the word for female Kzinti in Larry Niven's Creator/LarryNiven's Literature/KnownSpace novels) or a Draylaxian (who are mentioned in Series/StarTrekEnterprise ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' as having three breasts).



** Also the scene where Chekov and Sulu attempt to convince Uhura they are lost in a snowstorm, considering that, many years later, Creator/WalterKoenig's son would disappear in snowcovered Vancouver - and subsequently be found dead from his apparent suicide.

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** Also the scene where Chekov and Sulu attempt to convince Uhura they are lost in a snowstorm, considering that, many years later, Creator/WalterKoenig's son would disappear in snowcovered Vancouver - snow-covered UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}} -- and subsequently be found dead from his apparent suicide.



** The plan to fly to the center of the galaxy is even goofier after the franchise created [[Series/StarTrekVoyager an entire show]] about how long that kind of trip takes, though to be fair, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]'' was wildly inconsistent about warp speed times. Notably in [[Recap/StarTrekS3E17ThatWhichSurvives That Which Survives]], the Enterprise traveled a thousand light years in hours. And they traveled more than once to the edge of the galaxy, which is 20,000+ light years as well. 20k light years is in the same order of magnitude of Voyager returning to the Alpha Quadrant.

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** The plan to fly to the center of the galaxy is even goofier after the franchise created [[Series/StarTrekVoyager an entire show]] about how long that kind of trip takes, though to be fair, ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]'' was wildly inconsistent about warp speed times. Notably in [[Recap/StarTrekS3E17ThatWhichSurvives "[[Recap/StarTrekS3E17ThatWhichSurvives That Which Survives]], Survives]]," the Enterprise ''Enterprise'' traveled a thousand light years in hours. And they traveled more than once to the edge of the galaxy, which is 20,000+ light years as well. 20k Twenty thousand light years is in the same order of magnitude of Voyager ''Voyager'' returning to the Alpha Quadrant.



* MagnificentBastard: [[FriendlyEnemy Sybok]] is Spock's [[LongLostRelative long-lost half-brother]], who was banished from Vulcan for embracing his emotions. Sybok gets visions from a being that he believes is God and travels to the planet Nimbus III. Sybok is able to mind control people by using mind melds, allowing Sybok to form a cult. Sybok and his cult kidnap Federation, Romulan and Klingon diplomats and [[HostageSituation hold them hostage]]. Sybok demands a Federation vessel go to Nimbus and parlay for their freedom. Sybok captures Kirk and a landing party when they try to rescue the diplomats and hijacks the Enterprise. Sybok has the Enterprise go to a barrier in the Centre of the Universe, correctly believing the barrier is an illusion. Crossing the barrier, the Enterprise arrives at the planet Sha Ka Ree and investigates Sybok's claims. When this God turns out to be false, an evil being who wants to escape Sha Ka Ree and cause havoc and reveals its true nature by torturing Kirk and his crew, Sybok turns against this false God and uses his mind control powers against him, so Kirk and his friends can escape, [[DyingMomentOfAwesome at the cost of his own life]].
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%% ** "What does God need with a starship?"
%% ** From the DVD bonus features: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kestt5BI3eg "Captain Kirk is climbing the mountain,]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ why is he climbing the mountain?"]]
%% ** The exchange between Sybok and "God" shortly before the former's HeroicSacrifice becomes this partly due to this quote being [[{{Sampling}} sampled]] in the song "Pain" by Music/TupacShakur
%% --> '''Sybok:''' I couldn't help but notice your pain.
%% --> '''"God":''' ''(confused)'' My pain?
%% --> '''Sybok:''' It runs deep. Share it with me!

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* MagnificentBastard: [[FriendlyEnemy Sybok]] is Spock's [[LongLostRelative long-lost half-brother]], who was banished from Vulcan for embracing his emotions. Sybok gets visions from a being that he believes is God and travels to the planet Nimbus III. Sybok is able to mind control can mind-control people by using mind melds, allowing Sybok him to form a cult.{{cult}}. Sybok and his cult kidnap Federation, Romulan and Klingon diplomats and [[HostageSituation hold them hostage]]. Sybok demands a Federation vessel go to Nimbus and parlay for their freedom. Sybok captures Kirk and a landing party when they try to rescue the diplomats and hijacks the Enterprise. ''Enterprise''. Sybok has the Enterprise ''Enterprise'' go to a barrier in the Centre of the Universe, Galaxy, correctly believing the barrier is an illusion. Crossing the barrier, the Enterprise ''Enterprise'' arrives at the planet Sha Ka Ree and investigates Sybok's claims. When this God turns out to be false, an evil being who wants to escape Sha Ka Ree and cause havoc and reveals its true nature by torturing Kirk and his crew, Sybok turns against this false God and uses his mind control powers against him, so Kirk and his friends can escape, [[DyingMomentOfAwesome at the cost of his own life]].
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%% ** %%** "What does God need with a starship?"
%% ** %%** From the DVD bonus features: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kestt5BI3eg "Captain Kirk is climbing the mountain,]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ why is he climbing the mountain?"]]
%% ** %%** The exchange between Sybok and "God" shortly before the former's HeroicSacrifice becomes this partly due to this quote being [[{{Sampling}} sampled]] in the song "Pain" by Music/TupacShakur
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Music/TupacShakur.
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'''Sybok:''' I couldn't help but notice your pain.
%% --> %%--> '''"God":''' ''(confused)'' My pain?
%% --> %%--> '''Sybok:''' It runs deep. Share it with me!



** It goes the other way sometimes too, with fans placing the blame solely on Creator/{{Paramount}} Pictures and excusing Shatner. This applies in part to the film's money problems as well: while the budget cuts did hurt the film immensely, they seemed to have trouble prioritising what they did have, such as the million-dollar self-lighting cigarette that ended up being cut, the cat-stripper costume (complete with animatronic tail!) and the rock monster costumes that didn't work properly and endangered their wearers. Indeed, out of the six ''Trek'' films with the original cast, ''Star Trek V'' actually had the second ''highest'' budget, with only ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' being more expensive.

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** It goes the other way sometimes too, with fans placing the blame solely on Creator/{{Paramount}} Pictures and excusing Shatner. This applies in part to the film's money problems as well: while the budget cuts did hurt the film immensely, they seemed to have [[SkewedPriorities trouble prioritising what they did have, have]], such as the million-dollar self-lighting cigarette that ended up being cut, the cat-stripper costume (complete with animatronic tail!) and the rock monster costumes that didn't work properly and endangered their wearers. Indeed, out of the six ''Trek'' films with the original cast, ''Star Trek V'' ''The Final Frontier'' actually had the second ''highest'' budget, with only ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' being more expensive.



%%** The "dying bird squawk" sound effect[[note]]Technically, an oboe in the orchestra[[/note]] slapped over the Klingon theme.

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%%** The "dying bird squawk" sound effect[[note]]Technically, an oboe in the orchestra[[/note]] orchestra.[[/note]] slapped over the Klingon theme.



** When Klaa shoots at the Pioneer 10 space probe, some brief HellIsThatNoise almost makes it sound like the probe is ''screaming'' before it gets blown up.

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** When Klaa shoots at the Pioneer 10 ''Pioneer 10'' space probe, some brief HellIsThatNoise almost makes it sound like the probe is ''screaming'' before it gets blown up.



* RetroactiveRecognition: By far the best remembered acting role by Lawrence Luckinbill, who's now far better known for being the uncle of Creator/TheWachowskis[[note]]As well as being the son-in-law of Creator/LucilleBall and Creator/DesiArnaz, whose Desilu company ironically produced the first season of the Original Series.[[/note]] ([[Film/TheBoysInTheBand unless you're gay]]).

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* RetroactiveRecognition: By far the best remembered acting role by Lawrence Luckinbill, who's now far better known for being the uncle of Creator/TheWachowskis[[note]]As well as being the son-in-law of Creator/LucilleBall and Creator/DesiArnaz, whose Desilu company ironically produced the first season of the ''The Original Series.Series''.[[/note]] ([[Film/TheBoysInTheBand unless you're gay]]).



* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: As with the following film's Iran-Contra allusions, the hostage situation on Nimbus III and the "Send in the marines!" mentality of Starfleet is very evocative of Reaganite foreign policy.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: As with the following film's Iran-Contra allusions, the hostage situation on Nimbus III and the "Send in the marines!" mentality of Starfleet is very evocative of Reaganite [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan Reaganite]] foreign policy.



* WatchItForTheMeme: Sybok's 'I couldn't help but notice your pain' (said when he encounters 'God') [[Main/{{Sampling}} found its way into a]] [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]] song.

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* WatchItForTheMeme: Sybok's 'I "I couldn't help but notice your pain' pain" (said when he encounters 'God') "God") [[Main/{{Sampling}} found its way into a]] [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]] song.

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