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* IKnewIt:
** If you look at comment sections and message boards surrounding the story, you'll see that pretty much ''everybody'' figured out the plot twists of issue #4.
** If you look at those same things regarding [[spoiler:Nick Fury's successor]], everyone immediately knew it was going to be [[spoiler:Bucky]], if only so that [[spoiler:he'd have a new ongoing to cash in on his popularity from ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'']], never mind that the character is in general heavily suited for the role, even having been [[spoiler:mentored by Fury himself]].
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* MemeticMutation: People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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* MemeticMutation: People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It It was ultimately revealed to be that [[spoiler: Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]
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* MemeticMutation: People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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* MemeticMutation: People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[Disney/TheLionKing [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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* DesignatedVillain: [[spoiler: How dare Nick Fury kill innocent demons!]]

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* DesignatedVillain: [[spoiler: How [[spoiler:How dare Nick Fury kill innocent demons!]]



* JustHereForGodzilla: Some people only picked the comics once they heard the Orb, extremely obscure but incredibly wacky supervillain, is a prominent character.

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Some people only picked the comics once they heard the Orb, extremely obscure but incredibly wacky supervillain, is a prominent character.



* MemeticMutation:
** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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* MemeticMutation:
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MemeticMutation: People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf" or [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf". [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]
** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail]] [[EvilAllAlong HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]

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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to joking ones like "tfw no qt gf". gf" or [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]] [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]
** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail]] [[EvilAllAlong HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]
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* CounterpartComparison: The event has gotten a ''lot'' of comparisons to DC's ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''. Both events are capped off by the murder of a long-time major supporting character, leading into the revelation of devastating secrets in the superhero community, one of which involves mind-wiping a hero.
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** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]

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** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail "Hail]] [[EvilAllAlong HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.]]
** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]
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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf". [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury agreed with Gorr about gods.]]

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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf". [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury and Uatu agreed with Gorr about gods.]]
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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf".

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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf". [[spoiler:It was ultimately revealed to be that Fury agreed with Gorr about gods.]]
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** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.]]

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** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.]]
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** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.]]

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** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''existed'' ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]
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** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.]]

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** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse, worse,]] since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
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* DesignatedVillain: [[spoiler: How dare Nick Fury kill innocent demons!]]
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** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.]]

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** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot.boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and [[spoiler: gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
** Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and [[spoiler: gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
** [[spoiler: The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
ruined.]]
** [[spoiler: Dum Dum Dugan arguably gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty]] of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and [[spoiler: gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty]] guilty of the horrible crime of... of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and [[spoiler: gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.]]
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty]] of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty]] of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and [[spoiler: gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.
chains.]]
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
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** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
** Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
** Dum Dum Dugan arguably got gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is guilty [[EvilAllAlong guilty]] of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything'' for some reason! ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. chains.
** The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main MCU more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse, and he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot. The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined.
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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this! this!]] And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains.

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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for YoungerAndHipper Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* RuinedForever: PutOnABusToHell: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for YoungerAndHipper Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU.destroyed. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. chains.
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Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.
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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for YoungerAndHipper Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for YoungerAndHipper Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! Off-camera! For decades! decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And then he murders the Watcher for some reason and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.
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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for YoungerAndHipper Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! Off-camera! For decades! decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.
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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABusToTheMoon literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.

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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! Off-camera! For decades! decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABusToTheMoon PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.
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* RuinedForever: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed to make way for Ultimate Nick Fury (the Sam Jackson one) to replace him in the main MCU. Nick is guilty of the horrible crime of... killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and planets and ''anything'' for some reason! (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Nick, you're a terrible person for this! And he murders the Watcher and gets PutOnABusToTheMoon literally bound in chains. Dum Dum Dugan arguably got it even worse, since apparently he never even ''existed'' after World War II.
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** Another selling point among some fans, Punisher / Rocket Raccoon team-up

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** Another selling point among some fans, Punisher / Rocket the Punisher/Rocket Raccoon team-upteam-up.



** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of {{Mjolnir}}]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf".
** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/LionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]

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** People have been speculating on what Fury whispered to Thor [[spoiler:that made him and every Asgardian up to ''Odin himself'' unworthy of {{Mjolnir}}]], Mjolnir]], from sensible guesses to ones like "tfw no qt gf".
** There are many other theories ranging from plausible such as [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier "Hail HYDRA."]] to completely ridiculous such as [[Disney/LionKing [[Disney/TheLionKing "I killed Mufasa."]]

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