History YMMV / LukeSkywalkerAndTheShadowsOfMindor

* FoeYay: Cronal's motives can be summed up as "With my powers and Luke's young, handsome, sexy body, I can control the universe until the end!" (He doesn't actually say "sexy", but everything else is 100% true.) It doesn't help that he later considers going for Leia instead, and comes a ''lot'' closer to saying sexy when thinking of her.

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Lord Cronal]], supposedly born as Perek and also known as Lord Shadowspawn and "Blackhole," grew up worshiping the Way of the Dark, an ideology which [[StrawNihilist focused on nihilism]] and instilled in him the fanatical belief that the only true power was the power to destroy. Seeing the "creation" of his own daughter, Sariss, as a transgression against nihilism, he disavowed her and [[AbusiveParents gave her to the Prophets of the Dark Side to be raped, even participating himself]]. Though Cronal initially served Emperor Palpatine, in reality he held contempt for the Emperor and [[TheStarscream plotted to overthrow him]] because Cronal viewed him as not destructive and evil enough for his tastes. Following Palpatine's death, Cronal declared himself the New Galactic Emperor and waged war on the New Republic. Cronal's Imperial splinter faction embarked on a campaign of wholesale slaughter against multiple worlds, conquering the Inner Rim in the process. In order to act as his puppets and decoys, Cronal kidnapped, lobotomized and mind-controlled multiple Force-sensitives to act as extensions of himself whom he could [[BodySurf bodyjack]] should his own frail, elderly body fail him. His plan during the Battle of Mindoir being to [[GrandTheftMe take over the body of either Luke or Leia]] both due to the siblings' force sensitivity and to [[ImmortalityImmorality prolong his own life]]. Cronal also had kill-switches implanted into the entirety of his forces, and, when his attempt to switch to a Skywalker body failed, he sent them all on suicide runs against the Republic while he escaped. This necessitated the death of every Imperial troop under Cronal's command, 50,000 people total. In the end, Cronal was a man so completely nihilistic, that his ultimate goal as Emperor was to create a never-ending cycle of entropy until [[OmnicidalManiac all of existence, including himself, was destroyed]].

* HilariousInHindsight: Luke tells Geptun that he's not into Aeona because "redheads aren't my type." Mara Jade, Luke's future wife, is ''very much'' an abrasive redhead, as is his [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ben_Skywalker son]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kol_Skywalker younger great-grandson]].
** Here's the actual line:
-->'''Luke''': "And then there's Aeona Cantor. She's not my love interest. She's ''Nick's'' girlfriend, and that's the whole story. Anyway, she's not my type. Too abrasive. And I don't like redheads."
** In-universe, one could justify this with his previous relationship with [[EvilRedhead Shira Brie]]/[[ComicBook/MarvelStarWars Lumiya]], which ended rather [[TheMole badly]].
** Whether it's intentional or not, but the plot of "Revenge of the Jedi" sounds an ''awful'' lot like that of ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids''.

* TheWoobie: Luke, particularly in the BookEnds. In that first one he's hiring an investigator to build a case of war crimes to indict him with - it ''horrifies'' him that people don't see his actions as murder, but as ''heroic''. All through the book he does various things while telling [[spoiler: Nick]] that this "isn't my best trick", and at the end he relates to Gepta that his companion had asked what that best trick was.

** Whether it's intentional or not, but the plot of "Revenge of the Jedi" sounds an ''awful'' lot like that of ''Webcomic/Darths&Droids''.

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Lord Cronal]], supposedly born as Perek and also known as Lord Shadowspawn and "Blackhole", grew up worshiping the Way of the Dark, an ideology which [[StrawNihilist focused on nihilism]] and instilled in him the fanatical belief that the only true power was the power to destroy. Seeing the "creation" of his own daughter, Sariss, as a transgression against nihilism, he disavowed her and [[AbusiveParents gave her to the Prophets of the Dark Side to be raped,]] [[ParentalIncest even participating himself]]. Though Cronal initially served Emperor Palpatine, in reality he held contempt for the Emperor and [[TheStarscream plotted to overthrow him]] because Cronal viewed him as not destructive and evil enough for his tastes. Following Palpatine's death, Cronal declared himself the New Galactic Emperor and waged war on the New Republic. Cronal's Imperial splinter faction embarked on a campaign of wholesale slaughter against multiple worlds, conquering the Inner Rim in the process. In order to act as his puppets and decoys, Cronal kidnapped, lobotomized and mind-controlled multiple Force-sensitives to act as extensions of himself whom he could [[BodySurf bodyjack]] should his own frail, elderly body fail him. His plan during the Battle of Mindoir being to [[GrandTheftMe take over the body of either Luke or Leia]] both due to the siblings' force sensitivity and to [[ImmortalityImmorality prolong his own life]]. Cronal also had kill-switches implanted into the entirety of his forces, and, when his attempt to switch to a Skywalker body failed, he sent them all on suicide runs against the Republic while he escaped. This necessitated the death of every Imperial troop under Cronal's command, 50,000 people total. In the end, Cronal was a man so completely nihilistic, that his ultimate goal as Emperor was to create a never-ending cycle of entropy until [[OmnicidalManiac all of existence, including himself, was destroyed]].

* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Lord Cronal]] (supposedly born as Perek), also known as Lord Shadowspawn and "Blackhole", grew up worshiping the Way of the Dark, an ideology which [[StrawNihilist focused on nihilism]] and instilled in him the fanatical belief that the only true power was the power to destroy. Seeing the "creation" of his own daughter, Sariss, as a transgression against nihilism, he disavowed her and [[AbusiveParents gave her to the Prophets of the Dark Side to be raped,]] [[ParentalIncest even participating himself]]. Though Cronal initially served Emperor Palpatine, in reality he held contempt for the Emperor and [[TheStarscream plotted to overthrow him]] because Cronal viewed him as not destructive and evil enough for his tastes. Following Palpatine's death, Cronal declared himself the New Galactic Emperor and waged war on the New Republic. Cronal's Imperial splinter faction embarked on a campaign of wholesale slaughter against multiple worlds, conquering the Inner Rim in the process. In order to act as his puppets and decoys, Cronal kidnapped, lobotomized and mind-controlled multiple Force-sensitives to act as extensions of himself whom he could [[BodySurf bodyjack]] should his own frail, elderly body fail him. His plan during the Battle of Mindoir being to [[GrandTheftMe take over the body of either Luke or Leia]] both due to the siblings' force sensitivity and to [[ImmortalityImmorality prolong his own life]]. Cronal also had kill-switches implanted into the entirety of his forces, and, when his attempt to switch to a Skywalker body failed, he sent them all on suicide runs against the Republic while he escaped. This necessitated the death of every Imperial troop under Cronal's command, 50,000 people total. In the end, Cronal was a man so completely nihilistic, that his ultimate goal as Emperor was to create a never-ending cycle of entropy until [[OmnicidalManiac all of existence, including himself, was destroyed]].

* TheWoobie: Luke, particularly in the BookEnds. In that first one he's hiring an investigator to build a case of war crimes to indict him with - it doesn't ''matter'' to him that people don't see what he did as murder. All through the book he does various things while telling [[spoiler: Nick]] that this "isn't my best trick", and at the end he relates to Gepta that his companion had asked what that best trick was.

** To elaborate, [[spoiler: Cronal's troops's armor was made from meltmassif, substance, which Cronal used as a transmitter to make a all his troops a SuicideAttack on New Republic's force, which Luke had to stop.]]

* CompleteMonster: Lord Cronal, also known as Lord Shadowspawn and "Blackhole". Cronal grew up worshiping the Way of the Dark, an ideology which [[StrawNihilist focused on nihilism]] and instilled in him the fanatical belief that the only true power was the power to destroy. Seeing the "creation" of his own daughter, Sariss, as a transgression against nihilism, he disavowed her and [[AbusiveParents gave her to the Prophets of the Dark Side to be raped,]] [[ParentalIncest even participating himself]]. Though Cronal initially served Emperor Palpatine, in reality he held contempt for the Emperor and [[TheStarscream plotted to overthrow him]] because Cronal viewed him as not destructive and evil enough for his tastes. Following Palpatine's death, Cronal declared himself the New Galactic Emperor and waged war on the New Republic. Cronal's Imperial splinter faction embarked on a campaign of wholesale slaughter against multiple worlds, conquering the Inner Rim in the process. In order to act as his puppets and decoys, Cronal kidnapped, lobotomized and mind-controlled multiple Force-sensitives to act as extensions of himself whom he could [[BodySurf bodyjack]] should his own frail, elderly body fail him. His plan during the Battle of Mindoir being to [[GrandTheftMe take over the body of either Luke or Leia]] both due to the siblings' force sensitivity and to [[ImmortalityImmorality prolong his own life]]. Cronal also had kill-switches implanted into the entirety of his forces, and, when his attempt to switch to a Skywalker body failed, he sent them all on suicide runs against the Republic while he escaped. This necessitated the death of every Imperial troop under Cronal's command, 50,000 people total. In the end, Cronal was a man so completely nihilistic, that his ultimate goal as Emperor was to create a never-ending cycle of entropy until [[OmnicidalManiac all of existence, including himself, was destroyed]].

** In-universe, one could justify this with his previous relationship with [[EvilRedhead Shira Brie]]/[[MarvelStarWars Lumiya]], which ended rather [[TheMole badly]].

** To elaborate, [[spoiler: Cronal's troops's armor was made from meltmassif, substance, which Cronal used as a transmitter to make a all his troops a SuicideAttack on New Republic.]]

* MoralEventHorizon: "Answer me this: Why is the armor of my stormtroopers black? I'll give you a hint: ''[[NightmareFuel It's not just paint.]]''

* HoYay: A little bit between Wes and Hobbie, of the cliché "Your lips say no, but your eyes say yes." variety. Actually, ever since a YaoiFangirl found Aaron, Wes and Hobbie have been designated as AmbiguouslyGay.

* FoeYay: Cronal's motives can be summed up as "With my powers and Luke's young, handsome, sexy body, I can control the universe until the end!" (He doesn't actually say "sexy", but everything else is 100% true.)

* CompleteMonster: * Lord Cronal, also known as Lord Shadowspawn and "Blackhole". Cronal grew up worshiping the Way of the Dark, an ideology which [[StrawNihilist focused on nihilism]] and instilled in him the fanatical belief that the only true power was the power to destroy. Seeing the "creation" of his own daughter, Sariss, as a transgression against nihilism, he disavowed her and [[AbusiveParents gave her to the Prophets of the Dark Side to be raped,]] [[ParentalIncest even participating himself]]. Though Cronal initially served Emperor Palpatine, in reality he held contempt for the Emperor and [[TheStarscream plotted to overthrow him]] because Cronal viewed him as not destructive and evil enough for his tastes. Following Palpatine's death, Cronal declared himself the New Galactic Emperor and waged war on the New Republic. Cronal's Imperial splinter faction embarked on a campaign of wholesale slaughter against multiple worlds, conquering the Inner Rim in the process. In order to act as his puppets and decoys, Cronal kidnapped, lobotomized and mind-controlled multiple Force-sensitives to act as extensions of himself whom he could [[BodySurf bodyjack]] should his own frail, elderly body fail him. His plan during the Battle of Mindoir being to [[GrandTheftMe take over the body of either Luke or Leia]] both due to the siblings' force sensitivity and to [[ImmortalityImmorality prolong his own life]]. Cronal also had kill-switches implanted into the entirety of his forces, and, when his attempt to switch to a Skywalker body failed, he sent them all on suicide runs against the Republic while he escaped. This necessitated the death of every Imperial troop under Cronal's command, 50,000 people total. In the end, Cronal was a man so completely nihilistic, that his ultimate goal as Emperor was to create a never-ending cycle of entropy until [[OmnicidalManiac all of existence, including himself, was destroyed]].

* CompleteMonster: BigBad Cronal is so [[StrawNihilist nihilistic]] and evil that he mentally derides fellow CM [[MagnificentBastard Palpatine]] for being, in effect, ''too nice''. His misdeeds include enslaving his own already loyal soldiers by implanting what amount to self-destruct devices in them, having captive Force-sensitives essentially lobotomized and then slaved to his will to act as extensions of himself (the real Cronal being an incredibly frail old man), attempting GrandTheftMe on Luke, and, when that fails, on [[{{Squick}} Leia]]. His goal is galactic domination, but he edges towards OmnicidalManiac territory when he proclaims that his rule will be "no mere second imperium, but the reign of death". He is a [[LoveTohate very effective and memorable villain]], though, as his Complete Monster status makes him a great foil for [[TheMessiah Luke]].
--->'''Cronal''': Only power is real, and the only real power is the power to destroy.

* CompleteMonster: Cronal is so [[StrawNihilist nihilistic]] and evil that he mentally derides fellow CM [[MagnificentBastard Palpatine]] for being, in effect, ''too nice''. His misdeeds include enslaving his own already loyal soldiers by implanting what amount to self-destruct devices in them, having captive Force-sensitives essentially lobotomized and then slaved to his will to act as extensions of himself (the real Cronal being an incredibly frail old man), attempting GrandTheftMe on Luke, and, when that fails, on [[{{Squick}} Leia]]. His goal is galactic domination, but he edges towards OmnicidalManiac territory when he proclaims that his rule will be "no mere second imperium, but the reign of death". He is a [[LoveTohate very effective and memorable villain]], though, as his Complete Monster status makes him a great foil for [[TheMessiah Luke]].

* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Blackhole/Cronal privately considers ''Palpatine'' too nice, which is saying something.]]

* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Blackhole/Cronal.]]

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much everything associated with Shadowspawn, with the notable exception of [[LargeHam Shadowspawn himself]]- [[spoiler: but he's just a pawn anyway]]

* HightOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much everything associated with Shadowspawn, with the notable exception of [[LargeHam Shadowspawn himself]]- [[spoiler: but he's just a pawn anyway]]

* NightmareFuel: Pretty much everything associated with Shadowspawn, with the notable exception of [[LargeHam Shadowspawn himself]]- [[spoiler: but he's just a pawn anyway]]

* MoralEventHorizon: "Ever wonder why my stormtroopers' armor is black?" Hint- ''[[NightmareFuel that's not paint]]''

* YourMileageMayVary: Some people think this is one of the greatest ''Star Wars'' books ever, with a deep metafictonal plot, and a believable and clever villan. Others view it as corny, halfassed and unbelieveable. Some have called it Star Wars Marmite for the love/hate reaction
** Some people found the FramingStory to be the worst part of the book, arguing TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot about the consequences of being victors, instead going with Luke telling off the guy or something.
*** [[spoiler:Except for the part where Luke feels horribly guilty for killing thousands of men, even as a necessity, in order to save the day. The book opens with him hiring someone to investigate whether anything he's done counts as a ''war crime''.]]
** Is it ThisLoserIsYou / TakeThatUs comedy or BodyHorror of many different varieties? Or both?