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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: The David Hockney drawing in JP's room. Kingsley thinks it's a baby sitting under a tree; JP, true to form, thinks it's a man wanking.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, and [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale ogles JP while he's showering]] even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, and [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale ogles JP while he's showering]] even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him. Although, in Series 3, it seems that all of this was completely intentional...
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1) Don't remove or alter with out discussing it with the CM thread. 2) It was listed under the film and no the series so that makes no sense.
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy genuinely loves Oregon and is never anything but nice to her, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parents' marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy genuinely loves Oregon and is never anything but nice to her, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parents' marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).him)
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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* HoYay: Usually pretty strong between JP and Kingsley. [[spoiler:Goes UpToEleven when JP tricks Kingsley into kissing him, and when the series ends, JP convinces Kingsley to live rent-free with him.]]
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* HoYay: Usually pretty strong between JP and Kingsley. [[spoiler:Goes UpToEleven up to eleven when JP tricks Kingsley into kissing him, and when the series ends, JP convinces Kingsley to live rent-free with him.]]
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Why is this on the fresh meat series?
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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*CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilPatriarch Associate Professor Hemi Crane]] is a devotee of the supposed messiah and cultist Solomon. Adopting his creed of [[ImAHumanitarian cannibalism]], Hemi brainwashes his son into participating in the practice, killing numerous innocent people to serve at dinner. Trying to press his daughter to the practice and killing one of her friends, Hemi eventually reveals his rituals to [[ImmortalityImmorality achieve immortality]] involve [[OffingTheOffspring murdering his own children]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart killing his wife]] when she tries to stop him.]]
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* {{Adorkable:}} As one commenter put it, JP is such a numpty it's adorkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqajg35iwBw
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* {{Adorkable:}} {{Adorkable}}: As one commenter put it, JP is such a numpty it's adorkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqajg35iwBw
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* Adorkable: As one commenter put it, JP is such a numpty it's adorkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqajg35iwBw
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* Adorkable: {{Adorkable:}} As one commenter put it, JP is such a numpty it's adorkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqajg35iwBw
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* Adorkable: As one commenter put it, JP is such a numpty it's adorkable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqajg35iwBw
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** As funny as the scene is, being guilty of shagging someone who's in a serious relationship with someone else and said someone else being a very angry bloke who's had a few drinks is pretty terrifying, especially if you're a NonActionGuy.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: The David Hockney drawing in JP's room. Kingsley thinks it's a baby sitting under a tree; JP, true to form, thinks it's a man wanking.
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** Josie. Either fans think she's realistically flawed or plain insufferable. Although many viewers agree that she's more likable in the later episodes after her HeelRealization in Series 2.
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** Josie. Either fans think she's realistically flawed or plain insufferable. Although many viewers agree that she's more likable in the later episodes after her HeelRealization in Series 2.
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** Despite the fact that JP is utterly self-absorbed and frequently makes scathing comments, he's still the one who gets the most sympathy, be it from being exploited by his stoke "friends" or the [[spoiler: death of his father.]]
** Vod too. See the third example of Tearjerker below. [[spoiler:After having to grow up with a mother who calls her daughter a millstone around her neck and says ''she wishes she had been aborted, to her face'', who can blame Vod for her behaviour?]]
** Vod too. See the third example of Tearjerker below. [[spoiler:After having to grow up with a mother who calls her daughter a millstone around her neck and says ''she wishes she had been aborted, to her face'', who can blame Vod for her behaviour?]]
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** Despite the fact that JP is utterly self-absorbed and frequently makes scathing comments, he's self-absorbed, he still the one who gets the most sympathy, ends up dealing with a lot of stress and hardship, be it from being exploited by his stoke Stowe "friends" or the [[spoiler: death of his father.]]
** Vod too. See the third example of Tearjerker below. [[spoiler:After having to grow up with a mother who calls her daughter a millstone around her neck and says ''she wishes she had been aborted, to her face'', who can blame Vod for her behaviour?]]
** Vod too.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem while getting off scot-free for partying equally hard herself, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, and [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale checks JP out while he's showering even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him]].
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy's never anything but nice to Oregon, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parents' marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy's guy genuinely loves Oregon and is never anything but nice to Oregon, her, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parents' marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem while getting off scot-free for partying equally hard herself, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, checks JP out while he's showering even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him, and generally behaves in a passive-aggressive manner towards the housemates.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem while getting off scot-free for partying equally hard herself, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, and [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale checks JP out while he's showering even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him, and generally behaves in a passive-aggressive manner towards the housemates.him]].
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy's never anything but nice to Oregon, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parent's marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).
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* TheWoobie: ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy's never anything but nice to Oregon, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the one who broke his parent's parents' marriage apart (and the fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it before him).
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* AwesomeEgo: Vod and JP.
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Josie. Either fans think she's realistically flawed or plain insufferable. Although many viewers agree that she's more likable in the later episodes after her HeelRealization in Series 2.
** Oregon's [[TookALevelInJerkass increasingly diva-esque behavior as the show progressed]] meant that she became this for many fans.
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** Josie. Either fans think she's realistically flawed or plain insufferable. Although many viewers agree that she's more likable in the later episodes after her HeelRealization in Series 2.
** Oregon's [[TookALevelInJerkass increasingly diva-esque behavior as the show progressed]] meant that she became this for many fans.
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* InformedWrongness: JP's reaction to his mother's decision to sell the ancestral Pembersley home. We're meant to think that he's simply being a spoiled {{Manchild}} again, but although he could have expressed himself in a more mature way, he does have a valid reason to be upset: his mother went behind his back to make a major decision that directly affects him (as he doesn't own a home of his own yet), and she was only planning to tell him after the house had been sold.
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** Josie TookALevelInJerkass in Season 2, but her life imploding over the course of the series does elicit some sympathy.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
** Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
** Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
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* NightmareFuel: "The Beast". What happens to Chris when she drinks too much. She flies into a furious rage and starts throwing things around while screaming and swearing, no matter who is in the general vicinity, and there's no way to pacify her. Vod says the best thing to do when it happens is hide under your bed until she passes out. TruthInTelevision for anyone with AbusiveParents.
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* NightmareFuel: NauseaFuel: Howard's bag of ''extremely'' questionable-looking abattoir scraps.
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** "The Beast". What happens to Chris when she drinks too much. She flies into a furious rage and starts throwing things around while screaming and swearing, no matter who is in the general vicinity, and there's no way to pacify her. Vod says the best thing to do when it happens is hide under your bed until she passes out. TruthInTelevision for anyone withAbusiveParents.AbusiveParents.
** While JP getting stuck on a cliff in the Pennines is PlayedForLaughs, he's legitimately quite high up (around three to four storeys) and there's no way down other than to jump.
* {{Shipping}}: Vod and Oregon, for some viewers.
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** "The Beast". What happens to Chris when she drinks too much. She flies into a furious rage and starts throwing things around while screaming and swearing, no matter who is in the general vicinity, and there's no way to pacify her. Vod says the best thing to do when it happens is hide under your bed until she passes out. TruthInTelevision for anyone with
** While JP getting stuck on a cliff in the Pennines is PlayedForLaughs, he's legitimately quite high up (around three to four storeys) and there's no way down other than to jump.
* {{Shipping}}: Vod and Oregon, for some viewers.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Heather, Josie's friend and Kingsley's girlfriend in Series 2, is presented as being a likable oddball who occasionally says or does strange things. However, she enables Josie's drinking problem while getting off scot-free for partying equally hard herself, gets mad at Kingsley for being concerned about said drinking problem, checks JP out while he's showering even though he explicitly states that he's uncomfortable with her being in the bathroom with him, and generally behaves in a passive-aggressive manner towards the housemates.
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* TheWoobie: Josie seems to be turning into this in the second series: [[spoiler: Her old flame gets married to someone else, she accidentally breaks Heather's arm practicing ju-jitsu, she leaves the keys in the front door causing the house to be ransacked, and she sticks a dental drill through her subject's cheek in a practical exam.]] Though [[JerkassWoobie she did kind of bring it on herself.]]
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* TheWoobie: Josie seems ''Dylan Shales.'' The poor guy's never anything but nice to be turning into this in Oregon, and is completely crushed when he finds out that she was the second series: [[spoiler: Her old flame gets married to someone else, she accidentally breaks Heather's arm practicing ju-jitsu, she leaves one who broke his parent's marriage apart (and the keys in the front door causing the house to be ransacked, and she sticks a dental drill through her subject's cheek in a practical exam.]] Though [[JerkassWoobie she did kind of bring fact that everyone else--including JP--knew about it on herself.]]before him).
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** [[spoiler: Despite the fact that JP is utterly self-absorbed and frequently makes scathing comments, he's still the one who gets the most sympathy, be it from being exploited by his stoke "friends" or the death of his father.]]
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** Dave. He's a bit of a jerk, especially to Kingsley, but he did appear to genuinely care a lot about Josie and it's not hard to feel bad for him after he finds out that she cheated on him with two different guys.
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%% * BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Howard [[EstablishingCharacterMoment using a hairdryer to dry multiple ducks hung in the kitchen, all whilst trouserless]].
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: When Vod [[spoiler: brings to everyone's attention that JP paid for the lavish party they're at.]]
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: When Vod [[spoiler: brings to everyone's attention that JP paid for the lavish party they're at.]]
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** Vod's mother, Chris, crossed it long ago, due to how she insults Vod to her face, blames her for ruining her life and wishes she was aborted, out loud, in Vod's presence, and she does this ''while laughing about it'', not to mention her violent drunken rages and serious issues with drugs and alcohol that Vod got dragged into. She crosses this even further when she flies into a rage and rips the kitchen apart, even threatening the other housemates while doing so.
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** Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
** If Vod's mother hadn't already crossed it [[spoiler:by telling Vod TO HER FACE ''that she wishes she'd aborted her'', she definitely did when she blew up at Vod and all the other housemates in response to [[CallingTheOldManOut Vod calling her "a shit mother"]], half-wrecking the house in rage.]]
** Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
** If Vod's mother hadn't already crossed it [[spoiler:by telling Vod TO HER FACE ''that she wishes she'd aborted her'', she definitely did when she blew up at Vod and all the other housemates in response to [[CallingTheOldManOut Vod calling her "a shit mother"]], half-wrecking the house in rage.]]
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**MoralEventHorizon: Dan may have had every right to be angry about Kingsley issuing a formal complaint about the quality of his teaching, but he crossed this when, at the end of a field trip, he deliberately forced Kingsley to chase after his van, on a broken leg no less, then drove off without him, leaving him stranded in the Pennines, which is over 100 miles from Manchester.
** If Vod's mother hadn't already crossed it [[spoiler:by telling Vod TO HER FACE ''that she wishes she'd aborted her'', she definitely did when she blew up at Vod and all the other housemates in response to [[CallingTheOldManOut Vod calling her "a shit mother"]], half-wrecking the house in rage.]]Manchester.
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** If Vod's mother hadn't already crossed it [[spoiler:by telling Vod TO HER FACE ''that she wishes she'd aborted her'', she definitely did when she blew up at Vod and all the other housemates in response to [[CallingTheOldManOut Vod calling her "a shit mother"]], half-wrecking the house in rage.]]
