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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] has received some criticism due to The Doctor's rather casual approach to racism. While he points out that there were people of colour at all levels of British society during Elizabethan England, he advises her to simply walk around as if she owns the place, and is at first genuinely confused. In this episode Bill's concerns are treated more seriously, with her initially being reluctant to so much as leave the Tardis due to her fear of what could happen to her, and 12 treats her concerns far more respectfully.

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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]] has received some criticism due to The Doctor's rather casual approach to racism. While he points out that there were people of colour at all levels of British society during Elizabethan England, he advises her to simply walk around as if she owns the place, and is at first genuinely confused. In this episode Bill's concerns are treated more seriously, with her initially being reluctant to so much as leave the Tardis due to her fear of what could happen to her, and 12 treats her concerns far more respectfully.
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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: [[RecapDoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] has received some criticism due to The Doctor's rather casual approach to racism. While he points out that there were people of colour at all levels of British society during Elizabethan England, he advises her to simply walk around as if she owns the place, and is at first genuinely confused. In this episode Bill's concerns are treated more seriously, with her initially being reluctant to so much as leave the Tardis due to her fear of what could happen to her, and 12 treats her concerns far more respectfully.

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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: [[RecapDoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] has received some criticism due to The Doctor's rather casual approach to racism. While he points out that there were people of colour at all levels of British society during Elizabethan England, he advises her to simply walk around as if she owns the place, and is at first genuinely confused. In this episode Bill's concerns are treated more seriously, with her initially being reluctant to so much as leave the Tardis due to her fear of what could happen to her, and 12 treats her concerns far more respectfully.
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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: [[RecapDoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode]] has received some criticism due to The Doctor's rather casual approach to racism. While he points out that there were people of colour at all levels of British society during Elizabethan England, he advises her to simply walk around as if she owns the place, and is at first genuinely confused. In this episode Bill's concerns are treated more seriously, with her initially being reluctant to so much as leave the Tardis due to her fear of what could happen to her, and 12 treats her concerns far more respectfully.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Lord Sutcliffe comes across as such a CardCarryingVillain that it looks like the writers felt the need to hold the viewers hands to show how bad racism is. This winds up undermining the episode, because he's so blatant about it that it's hard to take the Doctor's reaction to him seriously. This is the same Doctor that [[Recap/DoctorWhos34E2IntoTheDalek risked his life to save a dying Dalek]], now punching some idiot over a racial slur, then breaking his own ThouShaltNotKill rule, because intolerance is now apparently the only evil that he can't stand.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Lord Sutcliffe's status as an in-your-face racist isn't exactly subtle, to say the least.
* CatharsisFactor: Given just how much of a HateSink
Sutcliffe comes across as such a CardCarryingVillain that is, it looks like makes his comeuppance all the writers felt sweeter. Not only does the need to hold the viewers hands to show how bad racism is. This winds up undermining the episode, because he's so blatant about it that it's hard to take the Doctor's reaction to him seriously. This is the same Doctor that [[Recap/DoctorWhos34E2IntoTheDalek risked his life to save a dying Dalek]], now punching some idiot over a racial slur, then breaking his own ThouShaltNotKill rule, because intolerance is now apparently deck him right in the only evil that face for hurling racist insults at Bill, the sea serpent he can't stand.had captured and been cruelly and greedily exploiting [[KarmicDeath makes Sutcliffe its next snack.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive vile businessman]] from RegencyEngland who captures an alien sea creature. Discovering [[FedToTheBeast feeding it humans]] causes the beast to defecate remains which can be [[HumanResources molded into bricks]] which burn better and cheaper than coal, Sutcliffe begins luring in innocents to kill for profit. Having done so for years and including children amongst his victims, Sutcliffe attempts to bomb the ice of the Frozen Fair to drop dozens of people to his monster.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive vile businessman]] from RegencyEngland who captures an alien sea creature. Discovering [[FedToTheBeast feeding it humans]] causes the beast to defecate remains which can be [[HumanResources molded into bricks]] which burn better and cheaper than coal, Sutcliffe begins luring in innocents to kill for profit. Having done so for years and [[WouldHurtAChild including children amongst his victims, victims]], Sutcliffe attempts to bomb the ice of the Frozen Fair to drop dozens of people to his monster.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Doctor's joke response to Bill's concern about the ButterflyOfDoom potentially [[RetGone erasing her existence]] hits harder following [[Recap/DoctorWho2023CSTheChurchOnRubyRoad the Fifteenth Doctor's first encounter]] [[spoiler:when it happens to somebody he's made friends with essentially right in front of him, and he gets to see the knock-on effect first-hand.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToTheBeast feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has done this for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, [[CardCarryingVillain Sutcliffe]] is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist [[CorruptCorporateExecutive vile businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture captures an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would Discovering [[FedToTheBeast feed them to feeding it humans]] causes the creature]]. The creature would then beast to defecate remains which can be [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to bricks]] which burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, better and cheaper than coal. coal, Sutcliffe has begins luring in innocents to kill for profit. Having done this so for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, years and including children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, amongst his victims, Sutcliffe decides attempts to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying bomb the ice and causing of the Frozen Fair to drop dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, [[CardCarryingVillain Sutcliffe]] is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].monster.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has done this for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, [[CardCarryingVillain Sutcliffe]] is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs [[FedToTheBeast feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has done this for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, [[CardCarryingVillain Sutcliffe]] is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in an era where slavery was legally enforced very seriously, after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sutcliffe defends his business by pointing out that more workers die in coal mines to produce a form of fuel that is vastly inferior to the alien seamonster poop he's harvesting. While the story's implication is that he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by ''actively'' killing people, his point that with his business fewer people die, to make a better product, is actually a rather good one, and while he's openly callous, and a racist to boot (though not unusually so for his day), his attitude as regards the expendability of human life is NotSoDifferent to that of some mine owners.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sutcliffe defends his business by pointing out that more workers die in coal mines to produce a form of fuel that is vastly inferior to the alien seamonster poop he's harvesting. While the story's implication is that he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by ''actively'' killing people, his point that with his business fewer people die, to make a better product, is actually a rather good one, and while he's openly callous, and a racist to boot (though not unusually so for his day), his attitude as regards the expendability of human life is NotSoDifferent similar to that of some mine owners.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Lord Sutcliffe comes across as such a CardCarryingVillain that it looks like the writers felt the need to hold the viewers hands to show how bad racism is. This winds up undermining the episode, because he's so blatant about it that it's hard to take the Doctor's reaction to him seriously. This is the same Doctor that [[Recap/DoctorWhos34E2IntoTheDalek risked his life to save a dying Dalek]], now punching some idiot over a racial slur, then breaking his own ThouShaltNotKill rule, because intolerance is now apparently the only evil that he can't stand.

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* CompleteMonster: [[CardCarryingVillain Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has done this for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, Sutcliffe is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[CardCarryingVillain [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an alien sea creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has done this for many years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. Self-admitting to be without "an ounce of compassion" and solely motivated by greed, Sutcliffe [[CardCarryingVillain Sutcliffe]] is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].

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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: ''The Doctor'', of all people, very satisfyingly responding to Sutcliffe's vile dismissive racism towards Bill by flooring him with one hell of a punch.


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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: ''The Doctor'', of all people, very satisfyingly responding to Sutcliffe's vile dismissive racism towards Bill by flooring him with one hell of a punch.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[SeaMonster alien sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for personal gain. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, [[WouldHurtAChild children]] included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. [[CardCarryingVillain Self-admitting]] to be without "[[TheSociopath an ounce of compassion]]" and solely motivated by {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil [[CardCarryingVillain Lord Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive racist businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[SeaMonster alien sea creature]]. creature. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive using the creature for personal gain.gain]]. During the Frost Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then have molded into bricks to burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], years, racking up a body count of possibly hundreds, [[WouldHurtAChild children]] children included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and Bill Potts onto them. Upon witnessing them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. [[CardCarryingVillain Self-admitting]] Self-admitting to be without "[[TheSociopath an "an ounce of compassion]]" compassion" and solely motivated by {{greed}}, greed, Sutcliffe is a perfect example that sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: ''The Doctor'', of all people, very satisfyingly responding to Sutcliffe's vile dismissive racism towards Bill by flooring him with one hell of a punch.
* GeniusBonus: Those aware of the etiquette of the time period (and/or more formal etiquette in the UK that the working class Bill would most likely not be exposed to) would know that sitting down in someone else's house without being offered a seat would be considered impolite and presumptuous; combined with the fact that Bill is a working class black woman in a male aristocrat's house in Regency England, such viewers would know without doubt that Sutcliffe would NOT be pleased when he arrives to find Bill seated.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past an era where slavery was legally enforced very seriously, after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Seconds after warning Bill to keep her temper, when the villain demands to know who let "that creature" in here and orders Bill to stand in the presence of her "betters," the Doctor slugs him in the face.

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* CompleteMonster: The villain of this episode, [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]], is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[AlienAnimals alien]] [[SeaMonster sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for his own personal gain. During the Frost Fairs he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then mold into bricks to profit from, also using the feces as fuel. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and his latest companion, Bill Potts, onto them. Upon witnessing the two escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. A [[CardCarryingVillain self-admitting]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose sole motivations is {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example of the series's recurring theme, that sometimes, even amongst the extraterrestrials, HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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* CompleteMonster: The villain of this episode, [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]], Sutcliffe]] is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[AlienAnimals alien]] [[SeaMonster alien sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for his own personal gain. During the Frost Fairs Fairs, he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then mold have molded into bricks to profit from, also using the feces burn in his mill, having discovered they burned vastly superior, as fuel. well as being cheaper, than coal. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds. hundreds, [[WouldHurtAChild children]] included. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and his latest companion, Bill Potts, Potts onto them. Upon witnessing the two them escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. A [[CardCarryingVillain self-admitting]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose sole motivations is Self-admitting]] to be without "[[TheSociopath an ounce of compassion]]" and solely motivated by {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example of the series's recurring theme, that sometimes, even amongst the extraterrestrials, HumansAreTheRealMonsters.sometimes [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans can be just evil as any extraterrestrial threat]].
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sutcliffe defends his business by pointing out that more workers die in coal mines to produce a form of fuel that is vastly inferior to the alien seamonster poop he's harvesting. While the story's implication is that he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by ''actively'' killing people, his point that with his business fewer people die, to make a better product, is actually a rather good one, and while he's openly callous, and a racist to boot (though not unusually so for his day), his attitude as regards the expendability of human life is arguably NotSoDifferent to that of the mine owners.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sutcliffe defends his business by pointing out that more workers die in coal mines to produce a form of fuel that is vastly inferior to the alien seamonster poop he's harvesting. While the story's implication is that he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by ''actively'' killing people, his point that with his business fewer people die, to make a better product, is actually a rather good one, and while he's openly callous, and a racist to boot (though not unusually so for his day), his attitude as regards the expendability of human life is arguably NotSoDifferent to that of the some mine owners.
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* CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]], from season 36's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce Thin Ice]]", is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[AlienAnimals alien]] [[SeaMonster sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for his own personal gain. During the Frost Fairs he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then mold into bricks to profit from, also using the feces as fuel. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and his latest companion, Bill Potts, onto them. Upon witnessing the two escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. A [[CardCarryingVillain self-admitting]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose sole motivations is {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example of the series's recurring theme, that sometimes, even amongst the extraterrestrials, HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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* CompleteMonster: The villain of this episode, [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]], from season 36's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce Thin Ice]]", is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[AlienAnimals alien]] [[SeaMonster sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for his own personal gain. During the Frost Fairs he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then mold into bricks to profit from, also using the feces as fuel. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and his latest companion, Bill Potts, onto them. Upon witnessing the two escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. A [[CardCarryingVillain self-admitting]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose sole motivations is {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example of the series's recurring theme, that sometimes, even amongst the extraterrestrials, HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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*CompleteMonster: [[AristocratsAreEvil Lord Sutcliffe]], from season 36's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E3ThinIce Thin Ice]]", is a [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain racist]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive businessman]] from RegencyEngland who happens to capture an [[AlienAnimals alien]] [[SeaMonster sea creature]]. Trapping it into the bottom of River Thames, Sutcliffe found a particularly vile way of using the creature for his own personal gain. During the Frost Fairs he would lure innocent people onto the ice where he would [[FedToPigs feed them to the creature]]. The creature would then [[HumanResources defecate the human remains]], which Sutcliffe would then mold into bricks to profit from, also using the feces as fuel. Sutcliffe has [[SerialKiller done this for many years]], racking up a body count of possibly hundreds. When the last Frost Fair occurs in 1814, Sutcliffe decides to plant explosives onto the ice's surface to detonate, destroying the ice and causing dozens of people to be devoured by the creature, and later straps The Doctor and his latest companion, Bill Potts, onto them. Upon witnessing the two escape and warning people to get off the ice, Sutcliffe goes forward with his plan and detonates the explosives attempting to kill them and anyone else still on the ice. A [[CardCarryingVillain self-admitting]] [[TheSociopath sociopath]] whose sole motivations is {{greed}}, Sutcliffe is a perfect example of the series's recurring theme, that sometimes, even amongst the extraterrestrials, HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sutcliffe defends his business by pointing out that more workers die in coal mines to produce a form of fuel that is vastly inferior to the alien seamonster poop he's harvesting. While the story's implication is that he's crossed the MoralEventHorizon by ''actively'' killing people, his point that with his business fewer people die, to make a better product, is actually a rather good one, and while he's openly callous, and a racist to boot (though not unusually so for his day), his attitude as regards the expendability of human life is arguably NotSoDifferent to that of the mine owners.
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* TakeThat: Lord Sutcliffe's portrayal of an upper-class nobleman with very little empathy and too much focus on his "big picture" eerily looks like a stereotypical Tory/Conservative magnate. Not helped by looking like a mishmash between many period drama roles by Creator/HughGrant[[note]]Ironically, he tends to support Lib-Dem and Labour candidates more[[/note]] and former Conservative Premier UsefulNotes/DavidCameron.

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* TakeThat: Lord Sutcliffe's portrayal of an upper-class nobleman with very little empathy and too much focus on his "big picture" eerily looks like a stereotypical Tory/Conservative magnate. Not helped by looking like a mishmash between many period drama roles by Creator/HughGrant[[note]]Ironically, he tends to support Lib-Dem and Labour candidates more[[/note]] and former Conservative Premier UsefulNotes/DavidCameron.----
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* TakeThat: Lord Sutcliffe's portrayal of an upper-class nobleman with very little empathy and too much focus on his "big picture" eerily looks like a stereotypical Tory/Conservative magnate. Not helped by looking like a mishmash between many period drama roles by Creator/HughGrant and former Conservative Premier UsefulNotes/DavidCameron.

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* TakeThat: Lord Sutcliffe's portrayal of an upper-class nobleman with very little empathy and too much focus on his "big picture" eerily looks like a stereotypical Tory/Conservative magnate. Not helped by looking like a mishmash between many period drama roles by Creator/HughGrant Creator/HughGrant[[note]]Ironically, he tends to support Lib-Dem and Labour candidates more[[/note]] and former Conservative Premier UsefulNotes/DavidCameron.
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* SpecialEffectFailure: The ice cracking under Lord Sutcliffe and his fall into the river were less than impressive.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: The ice cracking under Lord Sutcliffe and his fall into the river were less than impressive.impressive.
* TakeThat: Lord Sutcliffe's portrayal of an upper-class nobleman with very little empathy and too much focus on his "big picture" eerily looks like a stereotypical Tory/Conservative magnate. Not helped by looking like a mishmash between many period drama roles by Creator/HughGrant and former Conservative Premier UsefulNotes/DavidCameron.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Seconds after warning Bill to keep her temper, when the villain demands to know who let "that creature" in here and orders Bill to stand in the presence of her "betters," the Doctor slugs him in the face.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Seconds after warning Bill to keep her temper, when the villain demands to know who let "that creature" in here and orders Bill to stand in the presence of her "betters," the Doctor slugs him in the face.face.
* SpecialEffectFailure: The ice cracking under Lord Sutcliffe and his fall into the river were less than impressive.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.thoughts.
*CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Seconds after warning Bill to keep her temper, when the villain demands to know who let "that creature" in here and orders Bill to stand in the presence of her "betters," the Doctor slugs him in the face.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "The Shakespeare Code" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code" Code]]" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Doctor takes Bill's concerns about being a black woman in the past very seriously, after "The Shakespeare Code" got some criticism for his blithely brushing off Martha's similar thoughts.

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