History YMMV / Batwoman

-->[[TookALevelInJerkass Kate]]: "You're just a privileged tennis player. You're not even fighting ''for'' anything. The only thing ''you'' ever lost was a beauty pageant."

* FridgeHorror: A bit of an unfortunate one in terms of Bette. At the start of the New 52 run, Kate tells Bette that she's burned her Flamebird suit and that she'll have to use a military cloth suit whilst she's training with Kate. Then, after Bruce forces Kate to bench Bette since she can't handle it (a very weird notion considering its written on panel that her fight against [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime]] and Deathstroke are canon), Kate comes in beat-up and distraught and point-blank insults Bette's abilities and priorities. Afterwards, in order to prove herself, Bette dons a back-up Flamebird suit and ultimately gets herself into a coma. The horror comes from the fact that Bette herself has shown absolutely no indication either written or on-screen that she's a weak at fighting (and if the original issue printing taken at face-value, there's actually ''more'' evidence that she's a capable fighter given she's a member of the Teen Titans). There's also her original suit is probably the only suit that was made of a protective material (such as kevlar) with her "Plebe" suit being of a normal military garb giving no damage protection. This means that Kate is the reason for Bette getting herself injured because she underestimated her and limited her, not because Bette was a weak fighter.

* FridgeHorror: A bit of an unfortunate one in terms of Bette. At the start of the New 52 run, Kate tells Bette that she's burned her Flamebird suit and that she'll have to use a military cloth suit whilst she's training with Kate. Then, after Bruce forces Kate to bench Bette since she can't handle it (a very weird notion considering she's taken on [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime]] and Deathstroke), Kate comes in beat-up and distraught and point-blank insults Bette's abilities and priorities. Afterwards, in order to prove herself, Bette dons a back-up Flamebird suit and ultimately gets herself into a coma. The horror that comes from this is the fact that her original suit is probably the only suit that was made of a protective material (such as kevlar) with her "Plebe" suit and her back-up Flamebird suit (it's weirdly drawn skin-tight as if it's merely made of spandex), meaning that Kate is the reason for Bette getting herself injured because she underestimated her and limited her, not because Bette was a weak fighter.

* FridgeHorror: A bit of an unfortunate one in terms of Bette. At the start of the New 52 run, Kate tells Bette that she's burned her Flamebird suit and that she'll have to use a military cloth suit whilst she's training with Kate. Then, after Bruce forces Kate to bench Bette since she can't handle it (a very weird notion considering she's taken on [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis Superboy-Prime]] and Deathstroke), Kate comes in beat-up and distraught and point-blank insults Bette's abilities and priorities. Afterwards, in order to prove herself, Bette dons a back-up Flamebird suit and ultimately gets herself into a coma. The horror that comes from this is the fact that her original suit is probably the only suit that was made of a protective material (such as kevlar) with her "Plebe" suit and her back-up Flamebird suit (it's weirdly drawn skin-tight as if it's merely made of spandex), meaning that Kate is the reason for Bette getting herself injured because she underestimated her and limited her, not because Bette was a weak fighter.
-->[[TookALevelInJerkass Kate]]: "You're just a privileged tennis player. You're not even fighting ''for'' anything. The only thing ''you'' ever lost was a beauty pageant."

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Kate's handling of mentoring Bette comes across as somewhat needlessly harsh and unfair in regards to Bette. While it's true Bette is known to be somewhat flighty, there's the fact that she'd already been called out by Nightwing about "not taking it seriously" as a hero. This only caused Bette to reaffirm herself, getting a new costume and making more of an effort without losing her positivity. While Kate was obviously trying to drive Bette away to protect her, it's shown she had little to no faith in Bette's capabilities and her accusations of Bette "having nothing to fight for" comes across as cynical to the point of cruel. Just because Bette hadn't suffered like Kate and a lot of other heroes didn't make her desire to be a hero any less genuine, something which Mark Waid [[https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/58zkng/daredevil_10_mark_waid_defending_everyday_heroes/ called out himself in his run]] on ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}''.

** In "Hydrology", Bette is portrayed as a reckless and inexperienced vigilante who ultimately becomes Kate's sidekick, in spite of the fact that she has more experience than Kate and has been a vigilante for a lot longer.

* GeniusBonus: While Kate only makes an explicit Kabbalistic comparison to the red of her suit, black would correspond to ''binah'' under this same logic, which is among other things is associated with deductive reasoning and repentance.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: The Valentine's-themed ''Crimes of Passion'' one-shot anthology featured a story about Batwoman, Maggie Sawyer, and Nocturna. The story addressed what Nocturna did to Kate and, to the delight of many, featured Kate managing to mend some fences with Maggie ''and'' had Kate beat the shit out of Nocturna for raping her.[[note]]Both of those things were done in the New 52 series to differing extents, but were received less warmly at the time.[[/note]] It helps that the story finally acknowledges how Kate was traumatized by the event, and her grief is treated as valid by both Maggie and the narrative.

** It's also a popular idea that the Kanes frequently moved when the twins were young, but this isn't supported by the comics. The only certain moves they had were from Fort Bragg to Brussels, and then Jacob and Kate's move back to, it's implied, the Washington, D.C. area.