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This troper got this guess based on the "true" origin of the zodiac curse. Summary: Basically god was lonely until he found companionship with a cat which gave him the idea of inviting other animals for a banquet whom became the members of the zodiac. Every night god & the animals partied until the cat fell on the verge of death. God then bound the cat, God & other animals in a circle of reincarnation which the other animals happily agreed to not wanting to be separated, however the cat disagreed stating that all things had to end. The other animals & God instead of musing upon what the cat said considered it an act of rejection. In anger at this supposedly betrayal, God cursed the cat to be born in its hideous state not only as "punishment" but to ensure that it would be unable to bond with other people, thus ensuring its complete devotion & making it that the cat would never want to leave God. Support for this would come from Kyo & Akito's relationship. Akito insists on preventing Kyo from forming relations with anyone insisting that only he [[spoiler:she]] will understand him.
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This troper got this guess based on the "true" origin of the zodiac curse. Summary: Basically god was lonely until he found companionship with a cat which gave him the idea of inviting other animals for a banquet whom became the members of the zodiac. Every night god & the animals partied until the cat fell on the verge of death. God then bound the cat, God & other animals in a circle of reincarnation which the other animals happily agreed to not wanting to be separated, however the cat disagreed stating that all things had to end. The other animals & God instead of musing upon what the cat said considered it an act of rejection. In anger at this supposedly betrayal, God cursed the cat to be born in its hideous state not only as "punishment" but to ensure that it would be unable to bond with other people, thus ensuring its complete devotion & making it that the cat would never want to leave God. Support for this would come from Kyo & Akito's relationship. Akito insists on preventing Kyo from forming relations with anyone insisting that only he [[spoiler:she]] she will understand him.
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** I'll grant that Hatori never has a manic state (he seems like he has depression in spades, though), but Kagura clearly has both states - while people focus on her manic {{Yandere}} moments, she gets rather depressed at times (particularly later on, as she muses about how Kyo loves Tohru). Also, given how he acts when nobody can see, I wouldn't say Shigure is a sociopath - he does what he does because he thinks it's necessary (even though he does ultimately [[spoiler: manipulate Kyo and Tohru into the conditions required to break the curse]] for his own benefit primarily).
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** I'll grant that Hatori never has a manic state (he seems like he has depression in spades, though), but Kagura clearly has both states - while people focus on her manic {{Yandere}} moments, she gets rather depressed at times (particularly later on, as she muses about how Kyo loves Tohru). Also, given how he acts when nobody can see, I wouldn't say Shigure is a sociopath - he does what he does because he thinks it's necessary (even though he does ultimately [[spoiler: manipulate Kyo and Tohru into the conditions required to break the curse]] curse for his own benefit primarily).
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** This is practically canon is you actually take a long look at Momiji's character. He is smart. He is the only one that will recognize the fact that they have purposefully ignored the Cat's fate. When his curse breaks he becomes a slightly colder personality and he has a manipulative streak in him, especially towards Kyo. This isn't to say that Momiji isn't a genuinely very kind and childish person at heart, but his is definitely OfuscatingStupidity.
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** This is practically canon is you actually take a long look at Momiji's character. He is smart. He is the only one that will recognize the fact that they have purposefully ignored the Cat's fate. When his curse breaks he becomes a slightly colder personality and he has a manipulative streak in him, especially towards Kyo. This isn't to say that Momiji isn't a genuinely very kind and childish person at heart, but his is definitely OfuscatingStupidity.ObfuscatingStupidity.
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** In the side-notes of the original issue of the manga (at least my english version says so) the mangaka mentions that it was actually Hatori's father who discovered the memory erasure technique, which is very like hypnosis. However, it's never brought up in the actual story. It also doesn't discount the idea that Hatori's father re-discovered a technique a past Dragon came up with, or Hatori managed to significantly improve on his father's technique because of an in-built ability of the dragon. At one point, Shigure implies that the dragon member didn't always turn into a sea-horse, so this theory might not so 'wild' after all.
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** Given this is [[LargeHam Ayame]] [[LongHairedPrettyBoy we're talking about]], he could quite possibly be talking about his irresistible charisma and sex appeal!
** There's quite a few fanfics which head-canon that all the members of the Zodiac are taught some kind of martial arts simply in order to teach them both body and situational awareness, in order to better avoid unexpected collisions that could trigger a transformation in public. While nothing like that is actually mentioned in-series, it's a practical enough idea to be highly likely. There's also the fact that in-universe Kazuma is implied to be a very well-respected sensei in Japan's martial arts community: as the grandson of the previous Cat, he's likely to have grown up around other Zodiac members. He could very well have actually suggested something like this, for exactly that reason. It could even be how he got to know Kyo and the terrible situation with his biological parents in the first place.
** There's quite a few fanfics which head-canon that all the members of the Zodiac are taught some kind of martial arts simply in order to teach them both body and situational awareness, in order to better avoid unexpected collisions that could trigger a transformation in public. While nothing like that is actually mentioned in-series, it's a practical enough idea to be highly likely. There's also the fact that in-universe Kazuma is implied to be a very well-respected sensei in Japan's martial arts community: as the grandson of the previous Cat, he's likely to have grown up around other Zodiac members. He could very well have actually suggested something like this, for exactly that reason. It could even be how he got to know Kyo and the terrible situation with his biological parents in the first place.
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* If you look at the chapter page where Akira's face is shown, we see his profile. His eyes and hair and face seem very much like Yuki's. Somewhere on the Furuba wiki page, it said that Akira was the former God. This cannot be true. For one, Akira and Ren had Akito, who bore the spirit of the God of the zodiac. Then it stands to reason that Akira's position as leader of the Sohma clan is different. The reason why everyone in the Main House was overjoyed was because 'God' had not been born for generations...even a cenutry or more. The Main House is ruled by the leader of the Zodiac, or at least, one of its members. Who better to lead the Sohmas but the one closest to God, the Rat?
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* If you look at the chapter page where Akira's face is shown, we see his profile. His eyes and hair and face seem very much like Yuki's. Somewhere on the Furuba wiki page, it said that Akira was the former God. This cannot be true. For one, Akira and Ren had Akito, who bore the spirit of the God of the zodiac. Then it stands to reason that Akira's position as leader of the Sohma clan is different. The reason why everyone in the Main House was overjoyed was because 'God' had not been born for generations...even a cenutry century or more. The Main House is ruled by the leader of the Zodiac, or at least, one of its members. Who better to lead the Sohmas but the one closest to God, the Rat?
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[[WMG: The Sohmas are weirdly skewed towards male children.]]
Putting aside the fact that the Zodiac members have more males than females, is there anyone that Tohru meets in their connection who ''doesn't'' have the surname Sohma? The Sohmas have a proclivity to father sons, rather than daughters. Women marry into the Sohma family and the name continues.
* Alternately, any member of the cursed Zodiac goes by "Sohma" for the sake of solidarity, even if their Sohma parent was their mother.
[[WMG: The Sohmas are weirdly skewed towards male children.]]
Putting aside the fact that the Zodiac members have more males than females, is there anyone that Tohru meets in their connection who ''doesn't'' have the surname Sohma? The Sohmas have a proclivity to father sons, rather than daughters. Women marry into the Sohma family and the name continues.
* Alternately, any member of the cursed Zodiac goes by "Sohma" for the sake of solidarity, even if their Sohma parent was their mother.
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* The same might apply to Haru (although the same kind of lame backstory shows up in YamatoNadeshikoShichiHenge so it's possible he could have really reacted that way...)
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* The same might apply to Haru (although the same kind of lame backstory shows up in YamatoNadeshikoShichiHenge ''Manga/TheWallflower'' so it's possible he could have really reacted that way...)
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* If you look at the chapter page where Akira's face is shown, we see his profile. His eyes and hair and face seem very much like Yuki's. Somewhere on the Furuba wiki page, it said that Akira was the former God. This cannot be true. For one, Akira and Ren had Akito, who bore the spirit of the God of the zodiac. Then it stands to reason that Akira's position as leader of the Sohma clan is different. The reason why everyone in the Main House was overjoyed was because 'God' had not been born for generations...even a cenutry or more. The Main House is ruled by the leader of the Zodiac, or at least, one of its members. Who better to lead the Sohmas but the one closest to God, the Rat?
* If you look at the chapter page where Akira's face is shown, we see his profile. His eyes and hair and face seem very much like Yuki's. Somewhere on the Furuba wiki page, it said that Akira was the former God. This cannot be true. For one, Akira and Ren had Akito, who bore the spirit of the God of the zodiac. Then it stands to reason that Akira's position as leader of the Sohma clan is different. The reason why everyone in the Main House was overjoyed was because 'God' had not been born for generations...even a cenutry or more. The Main House is ruled by the leader of the Zodiac, or at least, one of its members. Who better to lead the Sohmas but the one closest to God, the Rat?
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This is not so much a guess as a joke. Having only seen six episodes of the anime by the time this is written, nobody has had their sexual orientation brought up, and it is established that it takes a hug from the opposite sex to bring out the animal in them. With that in mind, one might see the Sohma Curse as a case of SomethingElseAlsoRises. Of course, this all assumes FreudWasRight to begin with, which is likely not the case in a character-driven manga such as this.
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This is not so much a guess as a joke. Having only seen six episodes of the anime by the time this is written, nobody has had their sexual orientation brought up, and it is established that it takes a hug from the opposite sex to bring out the animal in them. With that in mind, one might see the Sohma Curse as a case of SomethingElseAlsoRises. Of course, this all assumes FreudWasRight it's all about sex to begin with, which is likely not the case in a character-driven manga such as this.
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* Out of the cursed Sohma, we know that Yuki, Kyo, Haru, and Kagura practice martial arts, and if this troper remembers correctly, the manga may have implied that more of them have learned it. In Volume 8 of the manga, when Ayame and Yuki go outside, Ayame says something along the lines that he had to come outside with Yuki because he needed to protect him from bandits (In addition to the fact that he also made a promise to not leave Yuki's side for that day). Ayame's zodiac form appears to be a garden snake of some kind, which, this troper assumes, probably doesn't have venom. So without being able to inject venom into possible attackers, how else would Ayame plan to defend his little brother?
* Out of the cursed Sohma, we know that Yuki, Kyo, Haru, and Kagura practice martial arts, and if this troper remembers correctly, the manga may have implied that more of them have learned it. In Volume 8 of the manga, when Ayame and Yuki go outside, Ayame says something along the lines that he had to come outside with Yuki because he needed to protect him from bandits (In addition to the fact that he also made a promise to not leave Yuki's side for that day). Ayame's zodiac form appears to be a garden snake of some kind, which, this troper assumes, probably doesn't have venom. So without being able to inject venom into possible attackers, how else would Ayame plan to defend his little brother?
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