[[folder: Jossed]]
[[WMG:''Frozen'' is the Snow Queen's Origin Story]]
That both stories have the Snow Queen in them really IS all that connects the original tale to this movie. This movie will show her rise to power and eventually become the Snow Queen of the original. Gerda and Kay haven't been altered or replaced; their story happens later.

* [[spoiler:Given the finale, Jossed until character derailment.]]
** As we all know, people with ice powers [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime cannot hold onto their sanity forever]].
*** But the reason the Ice King is mad is because his powers come from an ArtifactOfDoom. Elsa's powers are natural, so she should be alright.

* Maybe all the characters will somehow figure into the characters of "Literature/TheSnowQueen". Anna might somehow grow up to be the Summer Witch (who is often made to be the Snow Queen's younger sister, and also both have issues with being lonely). Hans might be the father of the prince and princess Gerda encounter. Kristoff might have some connection to the robbers (he could end up the Robber Girl's long-lost father, considering they both like reindeer...)
** Hell, we have the perfect reason for Elsa to grow up to her eventual role as Kai's captor; he represents her stolen childhood (being isolated from the world and all). Sure, she seems fine and dandy at the end, but we are talking about the subconscious here. Someone who’s spent much of their life locked in a room certainly would have developed a fondness for puzzles...
** Kai and Gerda may be the parents of [[NamesTheSame Kai and Gerda.]]
*** Or named after the originals from a legend.

[[WMG:Alternatively, Elsa's curse is Disney's way of sneaking in the mirror shard from the original story.]]
* This is because taking the time to explain where the shard and the mirror came from would take too much focus from the main story. Turning it into Elsa's curse just saves time and still moves the plot forward.
** Jossed, when the Troll elder asks if Elsa was born with her powers or cursed, her father says she was born with them. He could be lying, but given Anna's life was at stake, it is unlikely.
*** I think the "curse" is getting a shard of ice in your heart or head or whatever.

[[WMG:Elsa will be a [[SlidingScaleOfAntiVillains Type II]] AntiVillain.]]
* Addendum: She will be a KnightTemplar IronWoobie, having cracked under the strain of having to be Queen at such a young age.
** Semi-Jossed: Elsa is a Woobie, but due to her powers, not her station, and she is ultimately heroic.
** She technically is a ClassicalAntiHero.

[[WMG:The inevitable ''Frozen Ever After'' short will focus on Elsa getting a consort.]]
And she'll discount every potential suitor as false and/or inadequate. One of them will be Hans's big brother.
* Considering how much of a gay icon Elsa somehow became, this may cause riots.
** Of course, the consort doesn't have to be male, though I doubt Disney will have that much of a backbone. Then again, the shorts aren't as widely watched as the movies themselves, so maybe they can get away with it as less MoralGuardians will be pissing themselves in rage.
** Elsa is a gay icon because IdinaMenzel originated [[Theatre/{{RENT}} one famous bisexual/lesbian role]], and [[{{Theatre/Wicked}} her second role]] had tons of LesYay and takes place [[Film/TheWizardOfOz in Oz,]] which has a huge LGBT following.
** Elsa certainly have a similar hair color as a certain lesbian head of state whose land is named after the element she masters...
* Or they could just end the short with Elsa deciding she doesn't need a consort right now anyway.
* {{Jossed}}; the "inevitable short" was called ''Disney/FrozenFever'' and was about Elsa suffering from a cold while trying to set up Anna's birthday party.


[[folder: Confirmed]]
[[WMG:Sven will be a CuteMute.]]
A lot of animal sidekicks in Disney films have been following this trend. From the description of being "mangy" with only one antler, he'll probably fall under UglyCute, but will be oddly endearing. (Pardon the pun.) It goes without saying that Sven plushies will be all the rage in Christmas 2013.

* Doing that would just make him too much like Maximus from ''Tangled''. But that may be the point due to the horse's popularity. If they make Sven voiceless, they will really need to write him cleverly to make him his own character.
** According to Disney Wiki, Sven will be voiced by Tom [[StarWars "It's A Trap!"]] Kane.
* An artist named Prince Kido recently went to an early screening. [[http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=641999#p641999 According to him,]] Sven will be silent much like Maximus. Additionally, Sven will [[http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=642003#p642003 act like a dog,]] though not the same type that Max was.
* Based on the teaser trailer, it looks like they scrapped the one antler idea. Likely, they wanted to keep him symmetrical for ease of animation. Still think this Christmas a lot of kids are going to find Sven plushies in their stockings.
* Sven does not speak, but Kristoff speaks for both of them.

[[WMG:Hans being evil wasn't in the original script]]
First he was supposed to like Anna, but it would not be true love, he would kiss her but it would have no effect. Then the scene became Hans revealing he was more interested in the throne then in Anna, but still liked her.
* Confirmed by the filmmakers. Originally, Elsa was supposed to be the BigBad, but that was dropped, and when the plot was overhauled to make Elsa's backstory and motivation agree with her more sympathetic traits, Hans, previously just a mere RomanticFalseLead, was made into a HiddenVillain to fill the void.
* According to Jennifer Lee, Hans was "never quite good" but he was "sorta dumb. Sociopaths are far more interesting."

[[WMG: Elsa was born on the winter solstice.]]
It probably doesn't explain her powers, but it couldn't hurt.
* {{Jossed}}. The plot is kicked off by Elsa coming of age and being crowned queen, and it's made clear that this is happening in summer. It's much more likely that [[{{Irony}} the girl with ice powers was born in the summer.]]
** Here's an alternate related theory: she was conceived during the winter solstice. Though she would have to be a preemie to be born in mid-July but if she was conceived on the 21st of December then by that time she would already be about 32 weeks [third trimester] along. [[http://www.babyzone.com/pregnancy/pregnancy-complications/low-gestational-age-birth_78700 "By 32 weeks, survival is almost as good as full term"]].
*** That is with modern medicine, though.
* Actually confirmed late by [[WordOfGod Jennifer Lee]], also stating that Anna was born on the summer solstice. The coronation being in the summer can be explained by the fact that it would probably have been hard for boats to travel there in the winter.


[[folder:Elsa & her Powers]]
!! Elsa

[[WMG: Elsa saw right through Hans from the beginning.]]
Elsa knew all along that Hans was a {{Jerkass}} who just wanted to marry into Arendellian royalty so that he could eventually rule Arendelle, and she also knew that Anna would never believe that (especially coming from someone who had been so cold to her for most of her life). And after she told Hans that she didn't know how to end the endless winter, she knew that he was going to try to kill her, and that's why she escaped from the dungeon.
** That explains a lot. It would explain one reason why Elsa flatly says "You can't marry a guy you just met." It would also provide another explanation for why she decides to stage a jailbreak. It's possible Elsa also did accidentally complete freezing Anna because she sensed Anna's presence and also Hans's sword coming towards her.
** Hey, it might make it interesting if the film were told from Elsa's perspective. Perhaps Elsa deliberately fled into the mountains as a show for Hans's benefit.
*** Yeah! You just gave me an idea for a fanfic where Elsa is a [[LadyOfWar warrior queen]] who goes to save her sister from Hans, ice-bladed sword in hand.
** If she had known he was an evil man who didn't love Anna and who was going to try to kill her, she wouldn't have paused in her escape attempt to tell him "Just look after my sister." She simply had concerns about the hasty marriage proposal. She escaped from the dungeon because Weselton was trying to get her killed, Grandpabbie had convinced her that the mob would lynch her for being magical, and she thought that her very presence was a danger to her sister and to her people.

[[WMG: Elsa is going to marry an ice miner.]]
The ice harvesters, as shown in the beginning of the film, have a greater respect for Elsa's powers than most of the rest of the people of Arendelle. Kristoff in particular is fascinated by her ice palace, but he's already taken by Anna. Nevertheless, he isn't the only ice harvester in Arendelle...
** I like cake. That doesn't mean I'm going to marry a baker. Having a single interest or hobby in common is a supremely stupid reason to pair two people for life.

[[WMG:Elsa's situation, if Anna hadn't intervened, would have led to her becoming a wicked witch for real.]]
She's already convinced she can't undo what she's done to Arendelle, she gets a lot of innocent pleasure out of creating her palace/making over her wardrobe and feeling like she can let her powers flow freely, but she's already begun ''creating sentient life'', both by accident (Olaf) and on purpose (Marshmallow). She's already under the impression at least (though it doesn't seem to be the case) that the townspeople are horrified by her powers (rather than just surprised/astounded). If not for her sister, she wouldn't have gone back, and after so long having to keep her feelings tightly bottled up and under cover, it's easy to imagine those negative emotions bubbling up in isolation and [[StartOfDarkness souring her entirely]].
** Aww, how sad. Rather [[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Wicked-esque]], actually.

[[WMG:Magic hair]]
It's also interesting to note that both Rapunzel and Elsa have different hair colors than their respective parents. Both have parents with brown hair, but Rapunzel (whose magic relates to the sun) has golden hair, while Elsa (whose magic relates to ice and snow) has almost white (well, platinum blonde is the actual name for the color) hair. Also, her sister Anna has strawberry-blonde hair which slowly changes to white once she's hit by Elsa's magic. Assuming that ''Tangled'' and ''Frozen'' both take place in the same universe (which is not too far out, considering Rapunzel's cameo in the latter), it's quite possible that one of the "symptoms" of (elemental) magic in this world is indeed hair color. Also, Grand Pabbie asks the king whether Elsa was born with the powers or cursed, which means that magic in this world can 'just happen' like with Elsa or originate from an outside source like with Rapunzel (who was technically born with her powers and not cursed, but still got them from an outside source).

* There's certainly ''something'' different about Elsa's hair. Unlike Rapunzel's, it doesn't grow abnormally long -- both girls' hair is probably about elbow-to-waist length when loose, which is long but easily within normal limits -- but Elsa's animators confirm that she has ''400,000'' strands of hair on her head a- roughly four times the normal number for a human with a full head of hair. (Presumably she keeps it braided practically at all times: Anna's bedhead would be ''nothing'' compared to what that could do.)

** Someone has suggested elsewhere that Elsa's magic also causes her to look like she has some of the traits of albinism, a rare genetic disorder where a lack of pigmentation results in pale skin and hair, which is why she looks nothing like her parents and Anna.
*** However, while people with albinism have eyes that look similar to Elsa's, it comes with significant visual impairment, which Elsa doesn't have (if she had albinism, the bright sunlight in the epilogue scene would really hurt her eyes, among other things). Elsa also has very faint freckling and her eyebrows are slightly darker than her hair (as are her eyelashes -- as an adult, she always wears make-up, but it's still noticeable when she's a child), which means she doesn't have an impairment of pigmentation, just very, very little (which is not ''that'' rare in Scandinavia, though still fairly unusual in an adult).
*** At the very least, Elsa has some traits of an albino, like really pale skin.
*** Elsa has spent most of her life hiding in her room in her castle. She also lives in a time when pale skin was seen as a mark of wealth and refinement and beauty, because it was the peasants who were forced to work outdoors who were tanned. It's not surprising that Elsa would be paler than most women in her kingdom and even paler than her sister who probably delighted in playing outside in the courtyard.

[[WMG: Turns out, Elsa is a [[OurGodsAreDifferent goddess]].]]

She can [[PersonOfMassDestruction freeze over an entire nation]] and [[CreatingLife create sentinent snow creatures]]. She's at least as powerful as any one of the [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek deities]].
** Definitely. She should have a cult. How about a cathedral made of ice?

[[WMG:Elsa is gay.]]
* Her powers are not only a metaphor for homosexuality, she's also a lesbian, which helps feed into her self-hatred and feelings of utter exclusion from society.
** Interesting theory, but this does give off some awkward/creepy undertones when you remember that what gets Elsa in trouble with her powers is that she almost kills her little sister out of recklessness... so if you replace her magic with homosexuality, [[{{Squick}} would this mean]] [[IncestSubtext someone someone caught the]] [[LesYay two sisters kissing?]]
*** It's a real world case of HideYourLesbians, as placing Anna into a childhood friend role would be trivially easy the way the movie is set up. Also, when has Disney meant ANYTHING other than romantic love when referring to true love? Anna never said "I love you like a sister", just "I love you".
*** Well, at least I no longer feel quite so much like the odd man out for my momentary thinking of LesYay.
*** That "true love" ''can'' mean more than just romantic love is kind of the point. Anyway, people typically don't tell their siblings "I love you like a sibling".
*** Let It Go can be a metaphor for anything. That's what people like about the song. Could be mental illness, a coming-of-age story, or as [[http://justapinchofdisneymagic.tumblr.com/post/68639846847/kioewen-what-elsa-represents-numerous-theories this post]] says, "And finally, from the point of view of ideology, Elsa�s plight can be seen as representing that of individuals whose beliefs or values fly in the face of those of modern society, beliefs that must be kept secret, for fear of an individual being socially ostracized, losing employment, possibly even being criminally prosecuted. Along these lines, Elsa could represent a paleoconservative in a society dominated by Cultural Marxism, or an ethno-nationalist in a world that is imposing multiculturalism and diversity, or a traditional Christian in a world promoting secularism."
*** It's about being free of anxiety, finally. WordOfGod has been laid down.
*** A) source and B) DeathOfTheAuthor. Elsa's... situation far more resembles being in the closet or mental disorders than any else really; anxiety is not something you're born with (though there are disorders which can induce anxiety almost perpetually), it's not something shamed by society, it's not something that you have to live in fear of hiding.
*** First off, while anxiety disorders are not actively shamed, at least, not in today's society, there are still many people who don't bother to sympathize with those who have them, or lump them into prejudices that affect those with mental and emotional disorders at large. Secondly, there are in fact disorders that can cause anxiety that you are born with--I'm pretty sure that's essentially being born with anxiety, so I'm not sure why you said it wasn't. Additionally, there are disorders that cause people to lash out in rage at their loved ones, become paranoid of them, close themselves off, have dramatic and powerful mood swings, etc. Most importantly, if you thought that Elsa's main problem in the movie was persecution then you missed a very fundamental aspect of her character, one that she herself comments on several times--not a fear of being hated but a fear of ''hurting Anna.'' As in, actually hurting her, not just disappointing her or getting her condemned by association. While there are still elements of the problem that can indicate homosexuality, or counter beliefs, or whatever the person watching chooses to associate with Elsa's struggle, the aspect of loosing control of herself, and the fears relating to that, are more in line with mental disorders-ie anxiety related ones. At the very least it is a very viable interpretation, and not one that should be so quickly shut down. Lastly, not sure why it ''wouldn't'' be about suffering anxiety -- does Elsa not seem to be incredibly anxious about her powers through most of the film? Would someone who's gay and hiding it not have anxiety?

[[WMG:Elsa is a mutant and this movie takes place in the MarvelUniverse, in ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}''.]]
Disney does own Marvel after all.
* Add to this how similar the scene as the coronation goes wrong is to the origins of certain X-Men when they develop powers, and it makes all the sense in the world.
** It actually fits really well. In ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'', there's a point where the weather over all of the Atlantic has gone screwy, and it could be because that's when Elsa's frozen the islands.
* BEAUTIFULLY explored by ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ThvBNZdGcQ their "Frozen" video.]]
* With her abilities, easily overshadowing both Storm and Iceman, Elsa would have to be an Omega-Level Mutant. Another interesting thing: mutants of her power are typically immortal, so there's no real reason she couldn't walk into Xavier's school as an unexpected plot-twist.
* Or alternately, Elsa is Bobby Drake's ancestor.

[[WMG:Elsa is, at least to begin with, sexually repressed.]]
She initially doesn't want to get close to people for fear of hurting them. Seems like a logical extension. Plus, there's that fan service during "Let It Go", the scene where she first feels comfortable expressing herself.
* Especially likely since she spent her childhood wearing heavy clothes and gloves when she wasn't locking herself in her room, and was terrified of her own ''family'' touching her because she didn't want to hurt them by accident. Sex involves lots of skin-to-skin contact as well as intense emotions. Plus there's the WordOfGod stating she has depression and anxiety issues, which are both very unhelpful for someone's libido -- and she may not even have a sex drive ''to'' repress, given how she was so young when the castle was isolated.
* Actually from a Freudian perspective -- especially as Elsa is almost contemporary with Freud -- this almost painfully stacks up as a (very 19th century) female sexuality allegory. As a child Elsa's powers are a part of her that she experiments with without worry or embarrassment, until her parents and a pseudo-religious figure intervene and tell her that it's dangerous and has to be 'controlled', whereupon she tries to hide it away, but as an adolescent it starts getting more powerful until denying her nature means she can barely function. In maturity, her composure breaks completely -- coincidentally when an attractive young man is brought into her family (or, for those who want to think otherwise, when she's confronted with Anna wanting to embark on a romantic relationship). After her breakdown she finds that her mature powers are hugely pleasurable, beautiful, and creates miraculous things... but it's when they're controlled with ''love'' that she's able to express them freely and be healthily integrated in society. (It's a tiresome allegory, but it ''works''.)
** Jennifer Lee has also acknowledged the suggestion in ''Do You Want to Build a Snowman?'' of the rift that can develop between girls of an age gap that size when the older sister is going through puberty and the younger, still a child, is constitutionally incapable of understanding why her sister is literally becoming a different person.

[[WMG:Expanding on the ideas above, Elsa has incestuous feelings towards Anna.]]
Now, I'm not trying to sell the shipping here, that's not it at all, but the king and queen locked them away in the castle separately until they were teenagers. They basically isolated Anna and Elsa from the outside world and family as well as the only real friends they've known for their entire lives. They've basically hammered in that Elsa should be afraid of herself and repressed her emotions for years instead of helping her through them. Then they died and she had no emotional guidance at all until the coronation when she was let out. Humans are social creatures and need contact with other people and so sometimes people in extreme isolation or even extremely stressful situations can form strong relationships with who or whatever they can, even sometimes romantic ones. Take Stockholm Syndrome when people in an extremely stressful situation (being abducted) form a romantic relationship with the person who abducted them. Same principle, it would make sense that Elsa would attach almost almost all of her emotion to Anna because that's pretty much the only person that she is close to in this world aside her parents and I would definitely say that being in extreme isolation just paved the way for it. That could include the romantic feelings she never learned to express properly on her own. Plus the subtext between them is amazingly strong!
* [[{{Literature/Worm}} There's a precedent, including the superpowers and isolation,]] with [[spoiler:Panacea and Glory Girl]], because the separation could prevent the Westermarck Effect from setting in.
** Elsa was eight by the time she was parted from Anna. The Westermarck effect is strongest for people you meet before you're about seven.
* Alternatively, you could just take off the ShippingGoggles. The StockholmSyndrome analogy doesn't even work here, considering that by that logic, she should have incestuous feelings towards one of her parents. How are they suddenly exempt from this whole incest thing if you're going that route?

[[WMG:Elsa is going to run into the exact opposite problem.]]
OK, so Elsa's powers are fueled by love and other happy emotions, right? But Elsa logically can't be happy all the time, something that she's probably aware of. So she'll try to emulate her sister as a StepfordSmiler in the hopes of controlling her powers.
* This doesn't make much sense. She'll inevitably have some minor flareups and probably occasionally frost her surroundings if she's upset enough, but now that she can both control her powers and trust that she won't be seen as monstrous for having them as of the end of the movie, she can probably manage her feelings in a healthy manner.

[[WMG:Elsa has Magical Ancestry that ties in with ''Tangled'']]
At the same time the drop of sunlight fell in Corona, a drop of the icy moonlight fell in a kingdom near Arendelle. The king absorbed it and he and his descendants had powers just like Elsa, and eventually there was an unrelated war between this kingdom and Arendelle. The dispute was settled by 1400, with a marriage for the heirs of each kingdom. Since the King of Arendelle didn't want his children to have powers over ice and snow, the trolls made sure for "400 years, shall the powers be dormant"; cue 400 years later (''Frozen'' is set in the early 19th century?) when Elsa was born, the first royal birth in the family after the curse was broken. A- explaining why her parents weren't surprised that she had powers and accepted them at first.

[[WMG:Elsa's heart was 'frozen'.]]
Remember that line from the ice harvesters' song that went "Beware the frozen heart," which means having their heart frozen like what happens but also in the movie, Elsa is repressing her emotions and trying not to 'feel', it's once she thinks [[spoiler:Anna dies]] that everything stops and she has some semblance of control. Her heart was also 'frozen' because she wouldn't let herself feel or relax.
* Perhaps it's still frozen? Her hair is very fair, after all, like Anna's hair turned when she got her head and heart frozen. Except because she wasn't ''struck'' with ice powers but ''born'' with them, it's nonfatal and unable to thaw? Grandpabby says Anna, should she turn to ice, will be ice ''forever'', implying she'd be little more than a perpetually cold glass or diamond statue. Forever. [[InsaneTrollLogic Perhaps for Elsa, this just means that she'll never die as long as she has her ice powers. Maybe after she outlives Anna and Kristoff (either by them dying in an accident or by some natural cause), she becomes the cold and detached Snow Queen from the original story, leaving her niece/nephew to rule over Arendelle while she becomes a crazy ice hermit in the mountains, and one day, an ''evil'' troll creates the mirror in the story and that sets the plot of the actual tale of the Snow Queen into motion?]]
** Anna's act of true love should have thawed Elsa's frozen heart as well as her own.

[[WMG:Elsa is going to get a boatload of marriage proposals very soon.]]
Once word of a young, unmarried, female WMD with a petty kingdom of her own gets out, every crowned head in Europe that does not feel their pants growing tight at the prospect of unleashing Elsa's power against their enemies will be soiling them at the prospect of their enemies unleashing said powers on them. [[note]]Yes, yes, she is not that sort... but how many kings[=/=]princes[=/=]etc. operating on partial second-hand reports will be willing to take that chance?[[/note]] The young, unmarried, and female aspects will make the means of alliance or control obvious; although with any luck, the incoming bridegrooms will be more straightforward and less ambitious than [[spoiler:Hans]].
* Someone has already suggested here that Hans' throwaway line about how 'no-one was getting anywhere' with Elsa meant that she'd already ''had'' a number of, if not proposals, a number of potential suitors approaching her -- possibly by letter -- with the idea that they might be the sort of person it would be appropriate to consider to be her husband, sometime, maybe (and has brushed them all off, for reasons that weren't known at the time).

[[WMG:Elsa literally froze her own heart.]]
When Elsa was told to conceal her powers, she internalised them and froze her own heart so as not to feel anything. This is why she goes from "Conceal it, don't feel it," to simply "Conceal, don't feel." This is why her ice can't melt or be thawed. [[spoiler:Her own tears after Anna freezes melted her heart and allowed her to thaw the neverending winter.]] Also ties in nicely with the original tale.

[[WMG:Elsa's behavior in the three skipped-over years was partly a result of being unable to face her parents' death -- and the King had already accidentally given her a lesson in denial tactics.]]
As well as the pain of anyone having such a terrible loss, Elsa is left devastatingly lonely by her parents' sudden death -- she's estranged from Anna and the powers that control her life completely are now secret from anyone but her. Her father was at least seemingly the guide her in her struggles for control -- now she's alone. How does she deal with it? She ''conceals'' as much evidence of their passing to herself as she can, to try to avoid ''feeling'' it.
* She's technically the Queen, but avoids being crowned or taking on her duties -- despite the fact that even in this century, monarchs of 18 and younger have been very successful (Elsa would be just a little younger than [[UsefulNotes/QueenVictoria Queen Vicky]], who took up the duties of a Queen at 18 and did very well to rule into her eighties) for an unusually long time. At least a part of her would have been saying 'it's not time to become Queen yet, this is not really happening' -- possibly she ran with it.
** Technically, she was queen in all but the ability to exert authority.
* She keeps to the rules that her father laid down, however impractical they're becoming now that she's head of the household and Anna's guardian. If anything, she makes them tighter. A Freudian would probably tell her she's trying to please her father into coming back to her.
* As a result of this, she can't go to her parents' memorial and has never seen the standing stones erected in their memory -- how can she? She can't leave the castle! And therefore, she doesn't have to look at them.
** Yes, she would have exposed her powers if she did... but how long did she feasibly think it would be before something happened? But she avoided dealing with it -- because an unconscious part of her believed that if she was 'the good girl she always had to be', and concealed all the evidence, this horrible thing wouldn't be happening to her.

[[WMG:Elsa is the daughter of [[Myth/NorseMythology Loki]] and Anna's father (the king) is descended from Thor.]]
The Queen had an affair with Loki and then Elsa was born, or [[VoluntaryShapeshifter Loki]] impersonated Elsa's father at some point just to mess with some of Thor's descendants for kicks.
* Given that Loki's a known shapeshifter, neither the Queen nor the King knew about the affair, or guessed that anything was unusual about Elsa until her powers manifested, after which they likely believed it was a just a fluke. Loki, hardly the most responsible of gods and unlikely to stick around once he's had his laughs, didn't bother to explain his trick or leave any helpful instructions, preferring to see what kind of chaos would result.
* In Myth/NorseMythology, Loki is the son of the Frost Giants, who are nature gods that are in touch with ice, snow and cold. A girl with ice powers would probably be one of the ''least'' weird things he fathered. Also, in the original mythology (not the Marvel Comics version) Thor has red hair and Loki has silver-blond hair.
* This makes the sisters' reconciliation at the end of the movie that much more poignant: they're not just making up with each other, they're also showing that one of the longest-going family feuds in Myth/NorseMythology can end happily.
* Or Iðunn (Elsa and Anna's mother, not the goddess) had affairs with both Loki ''and'' later Thor, with Anna being Thor's daughter, explaining her strength, and her tendencies in fighting style: bashing stuff with blunt objects (lute against wolves), throwing large items (burning blanket roll, also against wolves), and just plain punching (but doing so with enough force to send Hans in a graceful arc into the air and over the side of the boat).

[[WMG: Elsa has ice powers because her [[FairyGodmother fairy godfather]] is the [[WesternAnimation/TheYearWithoutASantaClaus Snow Miser]].]]
Think about it.
* Whatever she touches turns to snow in her clutch.
* Elsa created a blizzard in the middle of July. Snow Miser brought snow to Southtown, USA, which apparently almost never gets any.
* She can create sentient constructs out of snow and ice -- similar to the chorus line of miniature Snow Misers?
* She can also create things like ice skates and dresses out of ice. Snow miser turns his hat to snow and recreates it.

Does Disney even own the Miser Brothers? It'd be great if they did, because this is the best thing I've heard all day.

[[WMG:Elsa's epiphany in the finale is a [[ShoutOut reference]] to Albert Camus.]]
"In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer."

[[WMG:Elsa, being as selfless, fragile, emotionally strong, and feminine as she is, will be a revival to the [[PrincessClassic Classic-Era]] type Princesses she's so similar to.]]
Anna of course is completely like most of the modern princesses -- she's kind but spunky, adventurous, fearless, and a total badass who saves the day. However, Elsa is unique and refreshing in that she isn't an outspoken SpiritedYoungLady, {{Tomboy}}, badass who "don't need a man's help!" or anything else the typical heroine is nowadays, which has become a cliché, and paradoxically, the "traditional" type of heroines who lack fighting skills, spunkiness, and/or adventurous sides are now unorthodox. Elsa is particularly similar to Aurora -- a lonely ProperLady who is reserved, demure, obedient, and ultimately selfless and dutiful for her people. She can't tell anyone "no" because she knows doing what's right is more important than following one's dreams. Elsa herself even becomes a DistressedDamsel as the Classics have always been negatively accused of being (and interesting that many fans ship her with the Prince-Charming-like Hans [[spoiler:although unfortunately that never happened]]. It is very telling that most people preferred ladylike, responsible, quiet Elsa to tomboyish, independent, spunky Anna (although she rightfully has her own fanbase). TL:DR you could read [[http://kioewen.tumblr.com/post/66011868700/elsa-a-vindication-of-traditional-femininity-in this fan's post]], which describes it more eloquently.
** Considering that A) Elsa is very powerful in her own right, and B) her being repressed is what caused this whole mess, it seems quite a stretch to assume those sexist notions are validated. Also, most people enjoy Elsa as a character due to her own strength and tribulations, not because she is helpless and "obedient" as you say.[[note]]Also, calling feminism a "leftist delusion" won't get you any fans.[[/note]]
*** The only thing sexist here is you calling femininity sexist. The heck? Also, you're the only one saying anything about helpless. Which every single ''realistic'' heroine can, will, and does have moments of. As for obedient, I don't know what the quotes are for. Elsa is obedient and this is refreshing. Dutiful unselfishness is not seen much anymore, in a society where rebellious and self-centeredness is generally preferred. If I accidentally imply Elsa or anyone should be a doormat, my bad, but I don't think that implication was there. [[note]]I didn't write that post, or I would have said so. I don't think she cares about saying what people want to hear, especially since I spoke to her personally. Her opinions on politics or feminism wasn't my point, of course.[[/notes]]
*** That would imply that said traits are "feminine", instead of "one way gender roles play up". Also 1) yes, every protagonist can have and should have helpless moments, but you imply it is a traditional, ''welcome'' aspect of female protagonists, and 2) you seem to be missing the point of Elsa's predicament: ultimately, it was by embracing the "self-centered" (read: being comfortable with oneself; if you legitimately think Anna, Mulan, Rapunzel, or the others are "self-centered", you're making quite the stretch) thing that she became happy with herself.[[note]]It is also very ironic that you condemn freedom and self-respect, whilst praising the author for its "rebellious attitude" and "edginess" (read: childish black and white political views)[[/note]]
*** Also, this viewpoint seems to take a harmfully black and white stance on what is feminine. That troper at least, can agree that Elsa is very much a ProperLady type, and is very much dutiful to others over self, but that for the most part doesn't necessarily stem completely from her being a good ''female'', unless you’re saying every good ''male'' monarch in fiction should be a brash and self-serving egomaniac as would be the default male prerogative by that line of reasoning. Elsa's defining traits in the movie stem less from gender roles and more from her responsibilities as a monarch, and as a decent human being with a working moral compass, something that's not owned solely by either gender, but rather should be found in both. It’s also ironic that you say Elsa breaks the "I don't need no man" attitude found in most modern princess, and your right, Elsa isn't really out to prove anything, she's too busy trying not to destroy everything she loves for that, but in the end she ''DIDN'T'' need no man to help her. Nowhere in the film, or in the extra material did Elsa ever show interest in men, or in romance in general, and it wasn't in the way that Merida did it, in a "I don't want to be tied down" way, it was in the "I honestly don't have the time of day for this" way. In the end, both side of the argument can apply to Elsa, and that's ok. From what we can tell from film and story books, Elsa does like traditionally girly things, like high tea, and looking nice in dresses, and she does have a lot in common with the more classically feminine princess of old. But at the same time Elsa is still a strong minded individual who was put into an impossibly difficult situation and came out of it standing on her own two feet. As a princess, she certainly knows when it is her place to keep calm and quiet for the sake of peace and decorum, but as a Queen, she also shows that that doesn't mean she's a doormat, and that being benevolent doesn't mean being used. In the end, Elsa is a refreshing change of pace in that she's not really just another princess with [[YouGoGirl something to prove]], and she's not just [[PrincessClassic some pretty face waiting for the right man]], Elsa is Elsa, a young woman who has problems which transcend the gender barrier, who enjoys traditionally feminine pursuits not because they're what are expected of her as a girl, but maybe just because she genuinely enjoys them, and that's ok, because that's doesn't make her any less of a strong, independent person, those just happen to be her interest. So many feminist get into a RealWomenDontWearDresses mentality, and maybe, just maybe, the real success behind characters like Elsa, and Rapunzel, and Tiana, and who knows how many other princess, hell maybe even, it could be argued, the whole Princess lineup, is because they can be feminist and feminine, they can be as strong or as weak as any real person would and that's ok. [[note]] sorry for how ridiculously long that was [[/note]]
*** Hm, perhaps in my attempt to make a hasty summary of Kiowen's post that shares my general idea, I didn't explain well enough and made it more confusing. I just meant I think that because a princess who is so similar to the Classic Era princesses is so popular, this might be a return to making those types of female characters, as a refreshing change. People always preach about how it's OK to be a tomboy like Merida and Calhoun or a TomboyWithAGirlyStreak like Anna and Jasmine, or a GirlyBruiser like Rapunzel, yet you don't typically hear much from those people about women who similar DO have, how you put it, a black and white femininity (which I don't see anything wrong with- lots of women are like that and this has been common for centuries). Thanks to our culture's dislike of anything traditional or anything feminine, any time you do see a feminine, girly, or ladylike female, something PC must be added to "make up" for the offensively traditional traits (I think what they did with Rapunzel and Anna are very good examples of this happening). If she likes pink, bakes, wants a prince to sweep her off her feet, she must be an ActionGirl, feminist, badass warrior, CEO, something impressive that forgives that girly stuff. It seems every type of woman but the kind I was talking about are defended vehemently, but my hope is Elsa's personality and popularity will change that at last.
*** So character depth is PC now? Then again, you quite eloquently illustrate why PC accusations don't really hold water, since PC = '''human decency and good writting''' if your accusations are to be believed.
*** 'Human decency and good writing' in the eyes of the Cultural Marxists, that is, those who want to see the traditional family structure destroyed as part of their Globalist agenda. Female characters '''do not''' have to exhibit [[StrawFeminist feminist behaviours]] in order to have character depth.
*** Being a PrincessClassic is an interesting role in which to cast Elsa- she may be a ProperLady, she may not muck about with frying pans... she needn't bother, she's a ''politician''. So much for AcceptableFeminineGoals... It's interesting that the tension between the princess who waits for her prince to come for her, and the rebel princess with something to prove, has found a new balance in RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething. In her vocation (when not hiding from humankind in an ice castle, anyway), she's also about as ''realistic'' a depiction of real royalty as the demographic can probably cope with.
** I fear a major [[BerserkButton issue]] with the initial argument is that the "more eloquent tumblr post" cited makes it clear that recent Disney characters running the gamut from Anna to Vanellope to Calhoun are all outright ''affronts'' to womanhood and considers the idea that women may want to be something other than their view of PrincessClassic to be a threat to civilization itself.
*** I didn't agree with the whole thing, but [[StrawmanHasAPoint they do have a point]] - Elsa ''is'' more classically feminine and essentially PrincessClassic [[JustForFun/XMeetsY meets]] SquishyWizard. Though the article doesn't say more tomboyish female characters are "affronts" to womanhood, just that traditional femininity is a good thing, but people (it would seem you're of the type) will scream and tear their hair out if they see a feminine woman, and [[RealWomenDontWearDresses decry her as "weak"]] - which people on ThisVeryWiki do ''all the time'', despite criticizing it. Again, I thought the writer was a little extreme, but had to agree with a lot of it.
* Why is it so bad to say that [[PrincessClassic the archetypical princess type]] is ''okay''? Elsa actually has a lot of "traditional" qualities of the classic Disney Princess -- demure, shy, emotional, graceful, and responsible, to name a few. Imagine if say, [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Aurora]] had Elsa's powers, and try to think of how she would behave. Or Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}} [[{{Pun}} (heh)]]. I get the feeling they'd behave similarly to Elsa - afraid of their own strength, doing everything they can to keep their powers in check so as to not hurt anyone, and all the while trying to fulfill their duties as princess. There's nothing ''wrong'' with being a PrincessClassic, or the suggestion that some people are tired of the spunky, anachronistic TomboyPrincess being run into the ground.
** Considering the ''reason'' that Elsa spent most of her life hiding and repressing her powers, I have doubts that Aurora or Snow White would be half as fixated on the matter. If being truly terrified of themselves and their abilities by default is the alternative to being a "spunky, anachronistic TomboyPrincess," then I have to go with the latter. On a side note, ask how many of the 'classical' Disney Princesses were angling to be Queens Regnant (even pathologically reclusive ones) rather than waiting to be rescued or swept off their feet.
** On a side note, I think the majority of fans like Elsa because they think she's "stronger," because of her powers. What gets me is that she spent thirteen years shutting out her own sister (instead of trying to cope and control her powers - how long did she expect to hide them successfully anyway?), ran away from her kingdom, ''froze over'' said kingdom, [[IAmBecomingSong sang a song about her emancipation and empowerment]] but reverted back to her old fearful self the moment she sees another human being, nearly kills her sister [[spoiler: twice]], and needed to be saved by said sister. Heck, [[spoiler: Hans]] had to talk her out of killing someone! I'm not saying Elsa's a bad character - just that everyone seems to overlook her faults, which are okay to have. I personally like Elsa a lot, I haven't gotten sick of Let it Go, and I loved the movie. But it seems like I'm the only one to notice her shortcomings.
* The deleted song "We Know Better" is a prolonged send-up of the PrincessClassic (though some might say that even today it's TruthInTelevision about the expectations on young royals, to some extent). Though the scorn the girls clearly have for the trope is not that they want to be the TomboyPrincess so much as they want to and do behave like real children, and it up the TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask (and the princess who never really manages it) character Elsa has as a young woman.

[[WMG:Elsa is a reference to the Queen in TabletopGame/{{Chess}}]]
The Queen is the most powerful unit (and Elsa is most certainly the most powerful character in the story), but she too is TKO'd in one hit (like how Elsa gets knocked out by a FallingChandelierOfDoom).
* Also, when Olaf was running towards the window, you can see the White Queen chess piece fall over. It's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment.

[[WMG:Elsa still becomes known as The Snow Queen.]]
However, instead of a negative term crafted by fear, it's an affectionate moniker given to her by her people.
* Most Fanfics like the idea that "Snow Queen" became Elsa's new nickname and she liked the ring it had.
[[WMG:Elsa is asexual.]]
Firstly because why not. And secondly because it kinda works with the ice theme?
* It's pretty much canon, though we don't have reason to firmly believe it. Hans makes a brief line that "no one was getting anyway with her", implying she turned down several possible suitors, so...
** Saying that works with the ice theme is ''really'' unpleasantly stereotypical. And an anxious, mentally ill woman who worried she'd literally kill anyone she got close to would have even more reason to avoid suitors. I like the idea of Elsa not being straight, but she's not a good character to represent asexuality.
*** [[SarcasmMode Because an anxious, mentally ill woman who worried she'd literally kill anyone she got close to is ''such'' a good character to represent homo- or bisexuality]]. Listen, buttercup: it doesn’t matter if someone suffers crippling anxiety, depression, mental disorders, physical disabilities, gender identities, what have you. People of all sexualities suffer from those problems, asexual or not. There's a word I'm looking for that describes what your statement implies, but I can't quite... And the "ice theme" the OP was getting at probably referenced specifically the fact that "ice themes" are "alone", referencing that asexuals don't ''need'' someone else the way everyone else does because hey, sex doesn't really interest them on a personal level, ''not'' that asexuality makes you a cold bitch who doesn't like people at all. They mean alone on a sexual and romantic level. I don't see any "unpleasantly stereotypical" commentary there, since that's the long and short of asexuality.
*** It might not be a ''positive'' portrayal of any sexuality, but it doesn't dovetail directly into some preexisting stereotypes about being gay or bi the way it does with being asexual. And as for "ice themes"- "frigid" is a ''very'' common slur against asexual people, particularly women. I get what you're saying but there are greater UnfortunateImplications there than if she's any kind of allosexual.
*** Contrariwise, though, it fits well with the lesson she learns about embracing her nature as an ice-queen instead of despising it and letting it make her anxious, and how her icy nature doesn't necessarily have to prevent her from having fulfilling relationships with people.

[[WMG: Elsa's RequiredSecondaryPowers could be quite dangerous]]
So that she doesn't freeze herself on her own ice, Elsa doesn't seem to loose any warmth from her body (she never feels cold, her breath doesn't mist, she doesn't slip on her own ice). It's essential when she's using her powers and she lives in a part of the world where keeping warm is usually more of an issue than keeping cool, but they ''do'' sometimes have warm days- and what if Elsa is in a situation where the body normally gets warm- like heavy exertion (something she probably hasn't tried in years) or with an infectious disease (something that also probably hasn't happened to her much with her isolation)? Or travels abroad? If she can't loose heat, would she be at risk of normal events giving her a long-standing fever?
* Actually Elsa does vent off excessive energy her body produces, just not in the form of heat we usually knows. We can notice that Elsa seems to glow a little bit in some scenes. This glow is her venting off excessive energy using light in visible spectrum which takes energy away without heating her surroundings too much.

[[WMG: Elsa is going to [[ReallyGetsAround really get around]] now.]]
She is going to make Catherine the Great look like chastity personified. Think about how repressed she was at the time of her coronation. This is a young woman who has not had physical contact with another living being for well over a decade. Consider that one of the first things she does during her self-imposed exile is let her hair down and change into a much more revealing outfit. Now think about what she's going to do now that she realizes she can touch other people and let them touch her. [[UnusualEuphemism The palace gates aren't the only royal portal that'll be open all the time from now on]].
* That is so horribly offensive, yet exquisitely worded I have trouble coming up with a witty retort. I'll just point out that sex drive doesn't quite work like a bottle of champagne, at least for women.
* This CrossesTheLineTwice, yet is ActuallyPrettyFunny.
* I'm going to side with you only because Elsa herself makes a subtle implication of this in the movie. Specifically she refers to herself twice as a 'good girl'; Once during "For The First Time in Forever" and again at the start of "Let it Go". Now in the movie this is referring to her dedication to her royal duties but 'good girl' is also a euphemism for chastity. She even says it while staring at a portrait of her late father, meaning she's trying to live up to his ideals, his standards. The moment she changes into that ice dress she saunters outside and exclaims "That perfect girl is gone!". That's a very sexually charged statement. I doubt she'll become the royal harlot the original troper is hoping for, but make no mistake, she's going to have some fun.

[[WMG:At the time of ''Frozen Fever'', Elsa was assuming her powers meant she couldn't get sick; she couldn't be more wrong, she actually has a lousy immune system]]
Because she lives in the early 19th century, Elsa, like all her contemporaries, thinks that colds are caused by getting cold- and as her RequiredSecondaryPowers stop her feeling the cold, she can't get one. Now, the movie was made in the 21st century, and thanks to advances in medicine, we know that colds are actually caused by airborne germs. The real reason Elsa hasn't had a day's physical illness is that she hasn't let another human being come close enough to breathe on her since she was a child. This also means that her immune system is in poor shape by the time she's 22 for lack of use, and now she's started mixing with all sorts of people- including, as we see in the short, children, who tend to be good vessels for a cold to surface in.
* Also, cold germs do like temperature slightly below body temperature, which is why they thrive in the nose- and Elsa seems to like to live in a slightly cold environment, with the ice clothes and all. No wonder the cold takes over and she gets really sick.

[[WMG:Elsa was at some point going to tell Anna about her powers]]
I always assumed that, after refusing to let Anny marry Hans, when Elsa says, "May I talk to you, please? ''Alone?''" she intended to take Anna aside and reveal her powers in private. However, Anna thought Elsa was referring to the proposal from Hans and insisted on Hans being included in the conversation, which is the reason why everything went south from there.
* I thought I was the only one who belived that!

[[WMG: Elsa [[MemeticMutation just vants to be alone.]]]]
She sees that people hate her and fear her. So she goes off to a remote mountain in order to be by herself.
* That's not a theory, or even subtext. It's pretty much ''an explicit plot point''.

[[WMG:Elsa's father may have had ice powers, and was more successful at controlling them]]
During the opening twenty minutes, up through Elsa's coronation, I noticed a few things:
* When Elsa is practicing holding the orb and scepter gloveless, we see the portrait of her father at his coronation. But on a closer look, Agdar seems to have, in that portrait, the same look of pained concentration on his face that Elsa exhibits on her own face at her coronation.
* Agdar has a reliable way of locating the trolls that is kept secret from everyone else, coupled with the fact that he thinks of the idea of going to them so quickly after Anna gets hurt, it's likely that the royal family has had dealings in the past with the trolls, who obviously view themselves as loyal subjects (given how quickly the Grand Pabbie acknowledges Agdar and how he immediately begins administering treatment to Anna), but they aren't supposed to call on them for every little thing (hence why Agdar can't remember on his own where the trolls live and has to consult a map). The trolls did recognize him, and it looked like he knew them too.
* Agdar said Elsa could learn to control the power. Maybe because he himself has learned to control his own powers?
* He reasoned that gloves would help Elsa.
* Agdar knew getting upset makes the powers stronger.
* His last words to Elsa were, "You'll be fine, Elsa." It could just be him trying to relieve her anxiety, but maybe deep down he felt she could overcome her powers just as he did.
* If Agdar had powers too, he clearly was able to overcome his power because he's gloveless. He must have been ashamed of his power which was why he was so adamant about concealing it so no one would know he had them, and passing that same mindset to Elsa. This might explain why he is not a highly emotional character -- he knows he might not be able to hold the powers in if he lets it go.

[[WMG: Elsa is [[UsefulNotes/BipolarDisorder bipolar]]]]
And the "Let it Go" sequence is her transitioning from a depressive episode to a manic episode. Indeed, during the song she shows many classic signs of mania:
* extremely elevated mood
* making rash decisions [[note]] decides she's going to abandon her crown and live as a hermit on the mountain, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough with no thought for the consequences]][[/note]]
* hyper-productivity [[note]]builds an elaborate ice palace literally overnight[[/note]]
* feelings of invincibility [[note]]"the fears that once controlled me can't get to me at all!", "You'll never see me cry!", etc.[[/note]]
* grandiosity [[note]]"I am one with the wind and sky!", etc.[[/note]]

[[WMG:Elsa's powers are like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]]'s]]
She didn't necessarily acquire them through the ice/sea/whatever crying and accidentally consuming a tear or anything (though it would be a clever nod to "Literature/TheSnowQueen"), but they're part of the same set, and probably make them the physical manifestations of Yin and Yang in that planet.
** Probably irrelevant, but despite MysticalWhiteHair, Elsa's eyebrows are dark(er), like Rapunzel's.
*** WordOfGod is that if it weren't for her ice powers, Elsa would be a brunette dead ringer for her mother, so it's entirely possible.

Elsa's powers are satanic. The King and Queen made a deal with the Devil - I mean [[Disney/{{Fantasia}} Chernabog]] - to acquire ''something'', and Elsa was blessed by the hell ice powers.

This means she is inherently damned to an eternity of suffering.

[[WMG:Alternatively alternatively...]]
Elsa's powers comes from either Dagr, the norse god of Day, or his mother, Nótt, the goddess of night, given the reccurence of "dawn" and "day" in "Let It Go"'s lyrics and the fact that Nótt's horse has a frost mane.

[[WMG:Alternatively, alternatively, alternatively...]]
Not long before the incident where Anna was frozen the first time, Elsa was wandering around the castle's less used corridors when she found something that looked ''kind of'' like the stray cats that sometimes crept into the building. Only, this one was white and pink, with strange, floppy ears that had golden loops wrapped around them, and with piercing red eyes.

The "cat" (she really didn't know what else to call it) followed her back up to her room with Anna that night. Quickly, and with great confusion for all parties involved except the cat, Elsa realized that Anna couldn't actually see her new fuzzy friend. And, when Anna left because she was weirded the hell out and also wanted some cake, Elsa learned that the "cat" could talk. And that it wanted to offer her one wish in exchange for [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica her signing some sort of contract]].

She wished to impress her sister, of course. For the first two days, it was a resounding success.

[[WMG:Elsa's powers are BECAUSE of Rapunzel's.]]
Rapunzel's powers are from the sun. Maybe Elsa's ice powers were given to her as a balance? Yes, Elsa is 3 years older, but we don't see her at any age younger than 5. What if her powers didn't develop until she was 3? Also, while Rapunzel's power is healing, not fire, Elsa can freeze someone's heart, causing them to slowly die.

Alternately, ''Frozen'' is simply set 3 years after the events of ''Tangled''. We already know it's set after Tangled, due to [[spoiler:Rapunzel and Eugene appearing together in a cameo.]]

[[WMG:Elsa is a human incarnation of a PhysicalGod]]
I mean she is powerful enough to be a physical god as is. So the incarnation of the goddess of ice or something similar isn't unreasonable.

[[WMG:Elsa's powers are fueled by her stress.]]
Trying to keep them concealed only heightens the stress, making her power more uncontrollable.
* Not really, stress just gives her PowerIncontinence. She's still immensely powerful when she's calm, she can just control it better. If you really wanted to push this angle, you could say that the feats she performed during "Let it Go", and at the end where she lifted the winter, were given a burst of fuel by ''release'' or ''relief'' of stress, and that she may not have that level of power if she's been calm for an extended period of time. But that still doesn't explain the control she had at the beginning before the "hitting Anna in the head" incident, unless she had a really stressful day beforehand, which didn't appear to be the case.

[[WMG:Arendelle is in [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]] and Elsa and Anna are descendants of Night's King and his Other bride.]]
Thus, Elsa's ice powers are genetic.
* [[spoiler:Being a Series/GameOfThrones villain would certainly explain Hans.]]
** Being royalty in a pre-French Revolution setting would also explain Hans.
* This troper's theory: Westeros is an alternate universe of ''Frozen'', wherein Elsa's HeroicBSOD caused the freezing of most of her subjects, with the exception of a few that escaped. She attempts to reanimate them so they'd be at the least like Olaf before she could figure out how to reverse it, but each attempt just results in a CameBackWrong. Still, it never deters her, and she just keeps trying. Meanwhile, the refugees of Arendelle tell the kingdoms that accept them of the long night, where the snows fell a hundred feet deep, and White Walkers roamed the woods... (more in depth [[http://roflmaozedong.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/frozen-wild-mass-guessing-and-massive-spoilers-avoid-if-havent-seen/ here]])

[[WMG:Elsa's powers were inherited from her father]]
Her parents tell the trolls that Elsa was born with her powers, and her father seemed to know a lot about how to control them.
* If this was the case, wouldn't he be better at teaching her how to control them? Her parents meant well but ultimately did more harm than good teaching her to suppress her emotions rather than confront them.
** He might have had them in his ancestry, if not in his immediate family, and it probably didn't end well; it's not like there are guidebooks for this kind of thing, so all he knew (either first-hand or from family legends) was that the power was somehow tied to emotions and could be highly dangerous.
** If WordOfGod from Jennifer Lee is anything to go by, [[AllThereInTheManual a child is born with ice magic every millennium, and only when there's a certain alignment involving Saturn]] (it was meant to be explained by a troll in the film but was cut). With magic that rare, no wonder he didn't entirely know what to do.
*** Though if Elsa was born (going by WordOfGod) in about 1825, there would be enough people on Earth by then for there to be several hundred babies born that night (maybe not so many in A.D. 825, but still). Presumably it's 'when the planets align a child is born ''within this particular people''. Which would mean that the last ice-witch or wizard was born into a ''Viking'' culture!

[[WMG:Elsa's power came from a magic shard of ice]]
To draw the "snow queen" angle in a little more, When Elsa was still a baby, she had a magic ice shard enter her heart, freezing part of it. Ala Dreamworks' ''WesternAnimation/{{Turbo}}'', now her blood is partially ice powered, hence the ice manipulation, but also drawing on the traditional fairy tale where that was an instigator of that plot.

[[WMG:Elsa's powers are an allegory for mental disorders.]]
Several people believe that disorders must be concealed and not let anyone see, also the people who suffer from them are told to fear it, (at least around where this troper lives.) seeing it as a destructive force to your career, your reputation, and everything. And several of the people who suffer from it are extremely talented. They are also told to be a 'normal person'. Sometimes they reveal their disorders in times of fear or stress. Can't this be more obvious?
* Another take on this: mental disorders have the possibility in some cases to grant those born with it amazing insight and talents. those who have a mental disorder can see the world in an entirely different light, that allows them to see things as no one else sees them and do things that no one else could pull off (especially, but not limited to, savants). At the same time mental disorders can be a curse to those suffering from it. Being so different can be isolating, makes it hard if not outright impossible to connect with other people, and when everything gets so overwhelming and you get scared you might lash out in ways that could potentially harm yourself and others. Parents of kids with mental disorders definitely mean well, but if they don't get all the resources they need to understand what their child is going through, then sometimes the cure can be as bad as the problem. In the end remaining loving and supportive is the best way thing anyone can do.
** If Elsa's mental disorder/s were damaging enough that they screwed up an entire kingdom on the scale an eternal winter would, I highly doubt Arendelle's people would be okay with having her rule them, as happens at the end. Ice powers are acceptable because Elsa found a permanent solution to control them. But there is no permanent solution to mental disorders, nor is there a way to only get the ''benefits'' of being born like that. So on a rough scale, the allegory fits, but when you add the detail of Elsa being royalty, it falls apart. (It would make a great AU fic, though.)
*** Not necessarily. Mental illness can be manageable. If we go with the allegory here, then learning to control her powers would stand for learning to manage her illness. And there are plenty of examples of royalty who everybody knew to be "crazy" who nevertheless didn't get dethroned. Of course many mental disorders never truly go away and you can have bad days or even bad years... but it's not as rare as people think to be able to live a relatively normal life, or at least a functional one, even with a mental disorder.
** If that's the case, then the film provides huge tracts of AdultFear from both Elsa's POV and Anna's: Elsa because she harms her sister and to some extent the people who she was supposed to be protecting, without even being fully aware of what she's done; Anna's when Elsa runs away in a state of distress, the authorities of law and order don't understand her and consider her dangerous when she becomes inconvenient, that she's cruelly manipulated by [[spoiler:someone Anna herself brought into the family, and almost manages SuicideByCop]]. And also for their parents, when Elsa becomes shut-in and her problems start to seriously impose on Anna, especially when Elsa is suddenly left with responsibilities that she's in no state to deal with.
* Relatedly, it could also be a condition from the autism spectrum?
** If Frozen were an allegory to Autism/Asperger’s, then effectively we're talking high scale here, on BOTH spectrums; speaking as an individual who is borderline Autism/Asperger’s. We are literally talking about someone (in Elsa's case) who cannot function at all in society. I don't see the allegory as relating to that.
** WordOfGod states it's an anxiety disorder allegory.
*** Did the director say the ice powers were an allegory for anxiety disorders, or did she just say that Elsa suffered from anxiety? Because if it's the latter, then it's not WMG, or Subtext, or even WordOfGod but just something plainly on display in-story. Just looking at what's shown in the movie, it looks like stress and emotional trauma from the incident where she hit Anna in the head with an ice-bolt at age 8, and subsequent lifetime of concealing her powers, have given her an acquired (as opposed to innate) anxiety disorder. Note that she didn't seem to have any problems with anxiety until ''after'' the incident where she nearly killed Anna, which combined with the counterproductive methods of trying to get the powers under control, sent her emotional health into a downward spiral.

[[WMG:Elsa's powers aren't limited to being AnIcePerson, they're theoretically limitless RealityWarping with emotional triggers]]
Hence why she can create clothing like the dress and the skates, create sentient life, turn people into ice instead of just coating them with it, and make her ice [[PowerGlows glow]]. When she accidentally discovered her powers, she may have been outside in the snow or otherwise thinking of cold things, (Which is not unlikely, considering that the movie is set in Fantasy Sweden) and a combination of assuming she could only control snow and ice and her [[PersonalityPowers cold and isolated personality]] lead to her not trying to use her powers to do anything else.
* Another possible motivation is that she wanted to be alone, to be separated from other people. (Everyone feels like that at least once, even if they have a family like Elsa's.) The mountains are distantly visible from Arendelle, and she may have subconsciously connected the two.

[[WMG:Elsa is a Jotun/Frost Giant.]]
Which is the source of her ice powers. Either she was glamoured and switched for an infant princess, or she's a descendant of Loki.
* Considering the film's Scandinavian setting, and the fact that Trolls are confirmed to exist in-universe, this doesn't seem all that unlikely. Plus, a lot of the things she does with her ice are very reminiscent of the things Jotunn can do.
* Either that or, depending on which Marvel universe it's set in, she's an omega level mutant with the same powers as Iceman.
** It doesn't have to be a Marvel universe. The Jotuns of Myth/NorseMythology were neither large or ugly by necessity, especially if partially human.

[[WMG:Elsa's powers are a metaphor for everything.]]
Yes, even that.
* Even ''that''?
** Especially that.
* What about that?
** I didn't even think of that! But yes, that as well.
* What? ''That'' too? [[{{Squick}} Gross!]]
* Even ''THAT''!? Is this really a Disney movie?
** Calm down--that couldn't ''possibly'' work as a metaphor. Were you watching the same movie?
* ...baseball? We're talking about baseball, right?

[[WMG:Elsa has ice powers because [[WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty Rick]] traveled to the Frozenverse and experimented on her, then he wiped her memory.]]
* Well, these are both animated...

[[WMG:Elsa gained her powers from [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Ice King's crown]]]]
Elsa came into contact with that strange crown one day and, by touching it, gained her powers of ice and snow. Sometime after the Great Mushroom War, the crown's next victim would be no other than Simon Petrikov (better known as [[spoiler:Ice King]]).
* Alternatively, her crown (either the one retrieved by Marshmallow or the replacement she will get) could ''become'' the Ice King's crown, getting imbued over time with all her powers, along with the mental problems from her early life.

[[WMG: Elsa's powers aren't just [[AnIcePerson Ice-based]], but control the seasons themselves]]
Since the wintery powers were the first to noticeably manifest (having ice suddenly appear indoors is a lot more obvious than plants acting strange), and were doubtless the most enjoyable for her little sister, she never had reason to explore the other aspects or even think that she had them.

Unfortunately for her, their [[EmotionalPowers empathic nature]] caused the years of being cold and distant following the accident to stunt the development of the other three seasons far more than winter. There were probably quite a few unusually harsh winters during that time because of this.
It isn't until her [[LoveEpiphany Love Epiphany]] at the end of the film that her Spring powers awaken in any meaningful manner, resulting it the rather sudden and flowery end to her [[NonIndicativeName two-day]] "[[EndlessWinter Eternal Winter]]" in addition to signaling the end to her long emotional winter.

Now that she's returned to a more-or-less normal emotional state, her other seasons will start to catch up. Plants will grow faster and flowers start blooming when she's happy, the sun burns brighter when she's mad (or something else often associated with heat), if she's tired or bored the skies could cloud over somewhat, and the ice would only come out on its own when she gets depressed.
Of course, she will be able to control these new powers so that they don't become disruptive, and if she tries she will be able to conjure and control [[GreenThumb plants]], [[PlayingWithFire fire]] (which can be combined with her [[AnIcePerson ice powers]] to make [[MakingASplash other states of water]], and [[BlowYouAway winds ranging from a light breeze to full gale-force]] and [[WeatherManipulation bring or disperse storm clouds as she wishes]], possibly even being able to [[ShockAndAwe call lightning from them]].

But on the other hand [[PowerIncontinence if she ever gets scared, there's a whole lot more to go haywire...]]

[[WMG: Elsa is [[Franchise/HarryPotter a Muggle-born]].]]
There was just no WizardingSchool like Hogwarts for her to go to, at least not that she knew of.

[[WMG: Snow and ice magic are seen in a different (and more negative) light than other forms of magic.]]
The setting of ''Frozen'' appears to be somewhere in Scandinavia, where traditional associations with winter and the cold were almost entirely negative. The far north tended to be seen as the realm of the dead, because of inevitable associations between the dangerous, frozen region and human mortality.

While magic may not be entirely unheard of in the universe of ''Frozen'', ice magic would likely take on a negative connotation in northern regions, particularly in a case where the wielder has the ability to make [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros' winters]] look like a nice trip to the Mediterranean. It's likely that people from the region immediately surrounding Arendelle (including the Duke of Weselton, a region that appears to be a fantasy counterpart to Sweden) would live in a cultural milieu where the ability to control the cold is seen in the same way as the ability to [[BadPowersBadPeople control darkness or death]]. Even if the winter no longer holds as much danger as it formerly did thanks to the progress of technology, that sort of association would take a very long time to wear off. This would explain why most of the people at the coronation are simply frightened, while the Duke of Weselton automatically assumes that sorcery is involved. For people living in the far north, Elsa's powers may have a mythological connection to evil or the devil that they just don't have elsewhere.

[[WMG: Ice magic isn't necessarily genetic, but the right conditions have to be met. Elsa just happened to fit those criteria.]]
This is confirmed by WordOfGod in [[http://johnaugust.com/2014/scriptnotes-ep-128-frozen-with-jennifer-lee-transcript an interview with Jennifer Lee]]. Initially, it was going to be explained by a troll narrator that every thousand years after an alignment of Saturn, a child would be born with ice magic, but she eventually decided to just say she was born with them and leave it at that. Whatever Saturn was supposed to be aligned with, this actually leads to FridgeBrilliance ([[IncrediblyLamePun no pun intended]]). What are Saturn's rings partially made of? Ice. Even more significant, what is one of Saturn's major moons? Enceladus, ''a world covered entirely in ice.'' [[http://www.ksbw.com/image/view/-/25309596/medRes/2/-/maxh/460/maxw/620/-/i8foutz/-/saturn-ocean-moon-jpg.jpg See for yourself!]]

[[WMG: Elsa is basically a lesser [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Scout]].]]
But all the major planets gain their own Sailor Scouts, and the lesser-known ones are attributed to the other moons besides Earth's. Elsa is thus likely Sailor Enceladus.

[[WMG: Elsa's powers (shooting ice from her hands) are how she poops.]]
Maybe that's why her parents tried to get her to conceal them (or at least control them).

[[WMG: About when Elsa gets a cold]]
As ''Disney/FrozenFever'' shows, when Elsa sneezes, she produces Snowgies. Logically, one wonders what she feels in the rest of her body. I always imagine that for Elsa, vomiting probably comes in the form of yellow snow.

[[WMG: Elsa didn't tell Anna about her powers because she was afraid Anna would become afraid of her]]

Perhaps one reason Elsa never told Anna about her powers wasn't just that her parents didn't allow her to talk about them, but think about it: Elsa is protective of Anna to the point she pretty much isolated herself from her for 13 years because that's what she thought it would take to keep Anna safe. Now think about what else might have gone through Elsa's head: if she knew that her sister had magic and she knew that it was Elsa's magic that caused her to get hurt when she was five, she might end up growing up ''in fear'' that Elsa might hurt her again, which would drive an even bigger rift between the girls than Grand Pabbie erasing all of Anna's memories of Elsa's magic ever did.

[[WMG: Elsa is somehow related to Daenerys]]
Both have almost white blonde hair, powers that people are afraid of and lose their parents at a young age.

[[WMG: Although we didn't see it, Elsa was responsible for the shipwreck that killed her parents.]]
* You know how Elsa is crying at the end of Do You Want to Build a Snowman? Well, that's partly because she thinks she's guilty for killing her parents...and she did! Elsa has ice powers, and ice is the solid form of water. Maybe one day, she had a meltdown for no reason, which randomly caused a storm at sea.

[[WMG: Elsa's powers are as follows:]]
'''Ability to magically transmogrify any form of matter into water ice:''' Because to say that she just freezes water and makes ice from the water vapor in the air, the way [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Frozone]] does, is not really sufficient to explain some of the largest or strangest feats she has performed. For example, there's no way the humidity was high enough to justify the ability to quickly construct a giant ice castle that way, but if she's able to convert ''air'' to ice with 100% efficiency, or possibly even draw mass from the stone of the mountain itself, then it makes sense. Similarly, this is the only explanation for how she was able to turn her coronation gown into an ice-dress that didn't even have the same shape as the original (in fact, you can see the collar area that was not a part of the ice-ified dress flying off as snow when she changes it.) The ability to curse a person to slowly turn into an ice sculpture, as she accidentally did to Anna, is probably related to this power.

'''Ability to create {{Snowlems}}''': obviously. It's not made clear if she can fully control this or if the result is always an embodiment of her subconscious mental state at the time she made it. In addition to living snow, she can apparently imbue life into, for example, the ice permeating frozen twigs, explaining Olaf's arms.

'''Ability to telekinetically control ice''': Shown several times. This probably justifies how she brought in sticks to be Olaf's arms on the basis that the sticks may have been frozen. This also appears to be how she lifted the winter at the end; she seems to have no ability to actually melt ice. But what she did do is, with her newfound positive emotional state allowing her full control of her immense power, she apparently just lifted the ice into the air and then ''ripped it apart at the molecular level'', effectively vaporizing it.

'''Ability to lower the ambient temperature''': Not sure where the heat goes. Either she somehow pumps the heat into an alternate dimension, or she just flat-out violates conservation of energy (because, ya know, [[AWizardDidIt magic]]). Either way, this ability seems to be able to extend around her for miles around, at least far enough range to cause the cold weather in Arendelle to persist even when she's miles away on a mountain.

[[WMG: There have been many Snow Queens throughout history]]
Like Jack Frost and similar legends, the Snow Queen is a magical being who is the personification of winter. When the Snow Queen dies, a child is born that will eventually take her place. Elsa was supposed to be that child. Elsa's father didn't misinterpret the trolls' warning about her emotions affecting her powers. The Snow Queen is supposed to have a heart of ice, completely free of emotion. That is how she controls her powers. But, instead, Elsa chooses to reject that role and learns to control her powers with love.

[[WMG: Her powers come from a [[Franchise/OnePiece devil fruit]]]]
Kuzan got into a fight with a devil fruit user who's powers are to open dimensional portals. This guy, of course, wanted to kill Kuzan, so Kuzan died, but his dead body including his devil fruit were flung into the TheVerse of Frozen, where the [[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_Fruit#Growth devil fruit reincarnated into an apple tree near the palace]] and was eaten by a very young Elsa. She may even be able to swim, as this universe's water may not emit the same unknown energy as the waters of the ''Franchise/OnePiece'' universe do, weakening and immobilizing devil-fruit users and blocking their powers.

[[WMG: Elsa is an [[Film/FantasticBeastsandWheretoFindThem Obscurial]] ]]
She had to control her powers which she was afraid of and they burst out of her, like Ariana Dumbledore's did until she lost control and nearly killed people.

[[WMG: Elsa is the [[{{WebAnimation/RWBY}} Winter Maiden]]]]

[[folder:Anna & Her ‘Powers’]]
!! Anna
[[WMG:Anna is not the first princess [[spoiler:Hans tried to marry.]]]]
Since ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' is in the same universe as ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', it's not hard to imagine [[spoiler:the Prince of the Southern Isles wanting to marry the recently returned Princess of Corona. He went to the kingdom celebration (that lasted two weeks) with the hopes of wooing her. However, he had no way of knowing that Rapunzel was already in love with Flynn, ruining his chances. Then he hears that there's a coronation for two isolated sisters in Arendelle...]]
* And if Anna and Elsa really are related to Rapunzel, he could well have heard of Arendelle during the festivities in Corona, maybe from idle gossip wondering if either of those Arendelle princesses would marry soon.

[[WMG:Anna's education was disrupted a lot because of Elsa's condition]]
Anna seems to have missed out on the most basic training of how to behave at royal events (though she knows how to dance, possibly because she wanted to learn.) Her [[FreeRangeChildren free-ranging behaviour]] and childish world-view have persisted into what most people would consider adulthood.
* ''A Sister More Like Me'' suggests that Elsa spent a lot of time studying because of her physical confinement and because she wanted to (not to mention such studying would be necessary so that she can seamlessly become queen without much difficulty). Anna got outside a lot more and wasn't interested in sitting in with books.
* It's speculated a lot that Elsa took up most of their parents' attention, especially their father's. Queen Iduna maybe didn't feel like putting her baby girl under a lot of educational pressure- especially as she could see Elsa wasn't thriving emotionally.
* After their parents died, Anna seems to have had very little attention- from fifteen, it doesn't look like anyone was educating her.

[[WMG:Anna is the way she is partly because of ChildhoodBrainDamage]]
Come on, someone had to say it. True, five isn't quite a 'baby' but she did fall about twenty feet head first onto a hard floor (a serious accident in itself), took a bolt of magic to the head, had her brain apparently nearly frozen and had some pretty radical magic brain surgery. She functions okay but it wouldn't be surprising if it left her with more than odd hair...
* Anna's 'kookiness' may be the result of genuinely perceiving the world in a slightly different way to other people- what's sometimes called a 'neuro-diverse profile'- that is, the condition by which people with profiles like Asperger's syndrome, dyspraxia or ADHD (all of which can overlap)- in which the person's brain connects signals together by unusual or circuitous pathways, meaning that they sometimes link thoughts together, or store memories, in seemingly strange ways. (Why this happens is not fully understood but often seems to start with birth trauma or seizures in early childhood.)
* Anna's impulse control and ability to process risks don't seem to have progressed much since she was five.
* It's also a nice [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Watsonian]] explanation of why Anna's 'handedness' seems to be inconsistent (throwing with her left, hitting with her right, gesturing with either). An early sign of a 'neuro-diverse' brain can be when a child is cross-dominant, being ambidextrous and showing no particular dominance of one hand over the other (or they perform some actions left-handed and some right-handed), because of their unusually-mapped neural pathways.

!! Powers
[[WMG:At some point in the film's development, Anna was going to have Fire Powers:]]
It would have been suppressed by the Troll's magic at the beginning. She wouldn't have started manifesting them yet, and after the Troll removed all magic she wouldn't have access to them. These would have manifested near the end, leading to an Ice and Fire/Winter and Summer motif. There are a lot of foreshadowing left in, such as "You almost burned me!"/"But I didn't." and "What power do you have to stop this?" It may have been cut for time.
* Elaboration [[http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1sch0o/frozen_anna_has_powers_of_her_ownspoilers/ here]]

[[WMG: Or, there is going to be a sequel involving Anna having fire powers]]
Think about it. My dad says that he believes Frozen is similar to the Marvel Universe and that you can't have one 'mutant' and not another. Anna could very well have been born in the winter (consisting of December, January and February, therefore born in either January or February in order to make her eighteen by the time of her sister's coronation in the summer) and be born with fire powers that only exert themselves when she's extremely angry. Also, for all we know, the two sisters are going to be made to test their love for each other by having to fight now that both have come of age (in modern terms eighteen is of age).
* And it's going to be called Burned

[[WMG:Anna was touched by Summer, just as Elsa was touched by Winter.]]
Anna's red hair, green dresses, and general sunny disposition (and sentimentality) are all side effects of Summer's influence. When the trolls wiped Anna's memory of Elsa's powers, they accidentally blocked ''Anna's'' power from ever consciously surfacing. This also explains why Elsa's winter magic is so powerful and uncontrollable-she and Anna were supposed to act as mutual [[PowerLimiter Power Limiters]], allowing the two to keep their powers controlled until they were old enough to use them properly and responsibly.

[[WMG:Anna has Earth related powers]]
Another troper mentioned something similar above but, yeah, Anna has powers but they're not fire. She hasn't awakened them yet.

[[WMG: Anna is the one with the power to grant life.]]
Elsa is a representation of winter, so she got ice, wind and snow powers. Anna is a representation of spring, the season everything comes back to life or is reborn. Notice how there's no indication Olaf is alive when Elsa builds him but is walking and talking when Anna shows up? Notice how Olaf's body parts can be moved around but don't really change, meaning his parts are specific and can't be added or subtracted by surrounding materials... except for the carrot Anna gives him, which somehow works like a real nose? Notice how Elsa had no idea she could create life, despite roughly two decades of having powers she can't control she's never done anything like that before. Notice how the only other living snowman is created in Anna's presence? Also notice that despite the magical ice storm that lasted for days there's absolutely no noticeable damage to any plants or animals when Elsa thaws everything at the end? Elsa's powers have never been depicted as harmless before so why the sudden change? Unless it's ANNA who healed the land by accident as Elsa thawed it. If their powers worked similarly then Anna's powers would also be linked to her emotions but Anna spends most of her time being positive and loving instead of scared and distant like Elsa so she gets better results without realising it.

[[WMG: Anna has SuperStrength.]]
* She's a tiny thing but somehow manages to:
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BulXil2ROy4 In "For the First Time in Forever" she manages to throw a bronze bust]] across the room. Even if it's hollow it's still going to weigh 20 pounds.
*** I thought that bust was made of wood.
*** The bust has to be made of something lightweight because it lands on top of a cake and squashes just the top layer. If it were a really heavy bust, the cake would have been totally obliterated.
** When Hans nudges her playfully, her attempt to do the same knocks him sideways.
*** However, right before that scene we see Anna accidentally smack Hans in the face. If she really has super strength and limited control over it, she would have probably busted his nose.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuzLLiBFGMg She knocks away]] (40 secs) an adult wolf (probably at minimum 150 lbs) with a lute like it was a baseball.
** When she punches [[spoiler: Hans]] off the boat, he arches backwards.
** [[http://frozenheadcanons.tumblr.com/post/76025210349/frozendailydose-dr3amingofdisn3y Etc.]]

[[WMG: Alternatively Anna has had military training.]]
Everything listed as an example of Anna's super strength could also be an example of her having been through some sort of military training in the three years since her parents' deaths. It would be a non supernatural explanation for her strength, agility and decisiveness in several scenes, particularly every action she takes when fending off the wolves, including swinging Kristoff's lute at one, throwing a burning bedroll another one, pulling Kristoff back into the sled (and Kristoff weighs about 160lbs / 72kg, much more than Anna probably weighs), and completely takes charge of the situation by giving Sven the 'jump' command, much to Kristoff's chagrin.

Her actions show an amazing amount of quick thinking that would make any commanding officer proud.
* Also, during ''Frozen Fever'' she's able to wake up, get dressed and groom her hair perfectly in a matter of seconds. Anyone who has ever been in the military will tell you, that's an accomplishment in itself.

* This could even fit in with the ''Series/OnceUponATime'' depiction of Anna, where she's shown to have taken up swordplay after the ordeal with Hans.
* Logically, though, if Anna went through this sort of training, wouldn't Elsa have gone through something similar?
[[WMG: Anna will become the "Sword" half of a [[SwordAndSorcerer Sword and Sorceress]] team.]]
* Anna states in a cut song that she will be Elsa's "right hand". Given that Elsa may still need time to get over her issues, Anna might be the best one to be Elsa's first line of defense.

[[WMG: Anna, being born on the summer solstice, ''would have'' been born with fire powers...]]
But [[Film/TheRoadToElDorado the stars]] (or rather, [[WhenThePlanetsAlign the planets and time]]) [[Film/TheRoadToElDorado were not in position for those powers.]]

[[WMG: Anna has electricity (or storm) powers]]
Because this is the WMG page and because of [[Creator/KristenBell her voice]].

[[folder: Arendelle and Politics]]
[[WMG:The imperial future of Arendelle]]
Following the events of the movie, Arendelle will use the godlike powers of Queen Elsa to conquer neighbouring nations and become the preeminent global superpower.
* Somehow I can't see Elsa going along with this.
* But with her power, Arendelle's economy will have a spectacular boost with the all year round ice she can supply.
** Also imagine this: Arendelle will now be impossible to invade while Elsa is on the throne: she can immobilize any invading fleet by freezing the waters, and then perhaps shifting the ice to crush their hulls. Furthermore, any invading force going overland to the city could suddenly face such a bad blizzard that their traveling pace is reduced to crawling speed while Elsa could create ice barricades for her soldiers to use.
** Now I'm thinking of Arendelle conquering England and all the world superpower countries. And yes, that includes America.
*** Does America exist yet in this quasi-Medieval world?
*** Will America exist at any point in this world's timeline? Or England? Arendelle is a vaguely Norway-esque equivalent, but there's no direct real-world counterpart, same as [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Corona]]; it seems more likely that it's another, non-Earth world, maybe a parallel version.
*** Given the ''Frozen'' has an artistic style derived from the 1830s-1840s, there would probably be a U.S. analogue already. For some historical perspective, at around the same time that Elsa is building her ice palace in Arendelle, [[FantasyCounterpartCulture the Texas analogue could very well be losing to the Mexico analogue at the Alamo analogue]].
* An Empire can't be built on one superhuman and an impenetrable city-state, especially if the city is only unassailable thanks to said superhuman, she can't be everywhere at once so there would be rebellions as soon as she left a province. Granted she could make an army of "Marshmallows" but we don't know if there's any sort of limitations to the personal flurry she gave Olaf to keep him from melting.
** While she does probably have the 'Cross Me and You Are Antarctica' option, the most that would be good for is extorting tribute rather than any sort of profitable long-term direct rule. The Emperor still needed an army. Whether or not it would be technically possible is irrelevant. It would be massively out of character for Elsa.
** We are in a position to take this as given, but something to consider is how many rulers will not. Some will be cynical enough to presume she would be happy to aggress (after all, [[ThatsWhatIWouldDo it is what they would do with her power]]), while others will be less certain but have little firsthand knowledge of Elsa's character and know enough about her power to not want to take chances. In short there could easily be much bowing, scraping, exceedingly favorable trade offers, spontaneous pleas for Her Most Dread And Powerful Majesty's forbearance, etc. no matter what Queen Elsa's planned foreign policy is.
** It's worth noting that Arendelle would become an incredibly powerful military ally due to Elsa's powers. Castle sieges? River crossings? Countering enemy assaults? Combat recon with snowlems? She doesn't even have to be constantly on the frontlines. One solid demonstration of her might and rulers would be clambering over each other to secure her as an ally - or persuade her to not become one.
* It would only last as long as Elsa, or someone else with her abilities, held Arendelle, and we've had no evidence of the power being hereditary (and thus possibly inherited by her or Anna's offspring) or capable of extending Elsa's life. If she manages to make an empire on her power, she'll make a ''lot'' of enemies who'll be counting down the days until she's dead or weakened by age. In a worse-case scenario, attempting to use her powers under such conditions may backfire horribly, and those enemies will be accumulating anyway while the empire-building is in progress. Other kingdoms may have magical resources of their own, whether or not they're open about it, and Elsa openly using her abilities could spark a ''Batman Begins''-style arms-race or Cold War. As pointed out above, ''we'' know that Elsa's unlikely to use her powers aggressively, but other countries don't.

[[WMG:Elsa, and Arendelle, by extension, will gain a great deal of influence in the politics of the realms.]]
Considering the size of its capital, Arendelle appears to be a fairly minor kingdom, albeit a fairly prosperous one. Now, however, its queen is a PersonOfMassDestruction with ''terrifying'' [[AnIcePerson ice powers]]. None but the most [[TooDumbToLive moronic]] rulers would want to piss off a woman who can [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice impale]] you on icicles with a gesture, summon massive {{Snowlem}}s to do her bidding, and plunge an entire nation into [[EndlessWinter deepest winter]] during the middle of summer.
* However, it's implied that Elsa's powers aren't totally unique (The Duke of ''Weaseltown'' (WESELTON!) seems to have heard of magic, at least, and Elsa's parents didn't seem to find her ''having'' it a cause for alarm, just that she couldn't seem to ''control'' it. In all probability, the kingdoms with mages keep each other in check, just like RealLife nuclear powers.
** Talk about a ''cold'' war.
** The end result when that cold war finally goes (metaphorically) hot? [[TheRoad "Each day is more gray than the one before. It is cold and growing colder as the world slowly dies...The roads are peopled by refugees towing carts, and gangs carrying weapons, looking for fuel and food."]]
** Hopefully Elsa manages to defuse the situation, since having someone so powerful lose control as she did would set all other nations on edge, especially any other nations with magical resources. Diplomatic incidents happen and get smoothed over all the time, but you don't want to accidentally touch off a sorcerous World War, plus that probably wouldn't be good for Elsa's personal issues.

[[WMG:Contrary to the above, Elsa's rule will make Arendelle into an impenetrable Switzerland-like entity]]
Obviously she's not the type for conquest, and beyond that, she really doesn't seem like she'd want to use her powers as leverage to meddle with the affairs of foreign countries at all. And she probably wouldn't want to enter into any alliances that would cause other countries to see her as a resource to be called upon in times of crisis. Any benefit of such alliances would be disproportionately in favor of the foreign ally, since she really doesn't need allies to keep Arendelle safe. She would probably go out of her way to make it clear to everyone that Arendelle is neutral and will remain neutral as long as no one is stupid enough to attack her country.

[[WMG: A near obsessively precise census and survey of Arendelle's countryside will be ordered by Queen Elsa]]
* That way, if it looks like she will be forced to use her powers with more force than precision[[note]](read: sink a particularly unreasonable war fleet or slap an army with Cabin-Boy Winter)[[/note]] she can issue effective evacuation or shelter-in-place orders (although working the well-insulated bunkers needed for the latter into the budget may take time).

[[WMG:Elsa's reign will mark the widespread acceptance (and [[TheMagicComesBack return]]) of magic.]]
As shown in ''Tangled'' and ''Frozen''[='=]s opening sequence, magic still exists, but not many people know about it. [[note]]Elsa's magic is easily accepted by her parents, and only becomes an issue once she hurts Anna- but at the same time, there are no other human mages to help her, or shared knowledge about said magic works. Anna is surprised to hear that trolls exist, which may or may not be a result of the mind-wipe. The only magic practitioner in ''Tangled''- Gothel- is centuries old. That isn't solid proof, but it lends credence to the theory.[[/note]] The implication is that magic ''did'' exist, a long time ago, but has now been reduced to [[TheMasquerade a few magical beings hiding themselves away]], and a few superstitions that nobody resorts to except in times of crisis.\\
''Frozen''[='=]s finale essentially smashes this attitude to bits. A powerful mage rules Arendelle, at least one magical creature openly lives in it, and the country's populace is on the way to accepting magic as part of their daily lives. Additionally, the movie's has a strong theme of accepting magic and using it for the good of others. I theorize that Elsa isn't a [[TheTimeOfMyths throwback]]- she's a herald.
** Maybe it's real in both worlds - in ours, the suppression of witches in the Middle Ages and Salem was successful, in theirs, not.

[[WMG: Elsa's refusal to allow Anna to marry Hans was at least partly politically motivated.]]
Think about it: Hans is the youngest of thirteen brothers, meaning that, at best, he's twelfth in line to the throne, assuming that his father is dead and none of his brothers have any sons of their own. Anna, by contrast, is first in line to the throne of Arendelle. Moreover, she and the rest of the world think she's just the heir-presumptive, but as far as Elsa knows at that point, Anna will definitely inherit the throne. After all, Elsa believes that she can never let another person touch her, so she has to assume that she can never wed or bear children. As such, Anna will definitely, as far as she knows, inherit the throne, and must therefore marry to greater advantage than Hans. Elsa's willingness to contemplate a romance between Anna and Kristoff at the end may be at least in part because she realizes that she is not condemned to lifelong celibacy and chastity herself.
* The other part, of course, could be Elsa being savvy, possibly sensing that Hans might merely be using Anna as a tool to get himself closer to her to target her. Or she's just trying to go by the traditions of the period wherein a member of the court needs her permission to marry and sire/bear children, something that does apply to Anna.
* It's not so much that Hans wouldn't inherit much- it's not like Anna would need to be provided for and having a nephew who was heir to multiple kingdoms could be problematic for the future- but she would definitely need to find out if Hans is a satisfactory personality in those circumstances, and that an alliance with his brother was actually desirable.

[[WMG: Film/TheTrollHunter is set in the same Universe as ''Frozen''.]]
Partially out of a desire for revenge and partially to prevent their terrible, vague advice from hurting anyone else in the future, Elsa and Anna decide that the best policy for dealing with the trolls living in the Kingdom of Arendelle is to [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge kill them all]]. Over the course of the next two centuries, this results in the decimation of the troll population and, as a result, an extreme tendency toward in-breeding. The population of trolls in ''The Troll Hunter'' is so dumb that there is no way that they could have survived that way in the long run, and coupled with myths and legends suggesting more human-like behavior in the past, it seems that something like this is the most likely explanation for why they are now dumb enough to attempt to eat their own tails. Hans, the troll hunter, is almost certainly wrong when he suggests that an animal like that could live for 1500 to 2000 years. All of the trolls seen in the movie were born during the 20th century.

During the course of the 20th and early 21st centuries, policies turned more toward containing what population of trolls remained in the kingdom that became Norway, since the monarch who ordered the policy is long dead, and since the trolls have lost the ability to dispense terrible wisdom. This, of course, competes with an attitude that is still generally destructive, leading to [[spoiler: troll-hunter Hans being forced to wipe out an entire population to assist in the construction of a tunnel]]. Regardless of any policy attempting to keep them alive, however, it seems likely that the trolls will eventually die out due to their stupidity.

[[WMG:There's this disturbing rumor floating around the international community that Queen Elsa secretly has VictorianNovelDisease ]]
It's very prevalent in this period, especially among people who are quite young, and for people in comfortable circumstances could be in temporary remission for years. If you live in a society where you see this often, there's lots of clues when Elsa appears on her coronation day that would (misleadingly) point to this.
* It's known that she's been removed from public view suddenly as a little girl and the household could look as if it went into pre-emptive mourning. She still spends long periods hidden from even most of her own household and doesn't go out in public; she has rules that say all people must stay at arm's length and is reluctant to touch even inanimate objects with her bare hands (while this actually is because she's afraid that she'll freeze someone to death, it also fits with some protocols at the time for TB patients- it was already known that it was infectious). She's pale, slight and bright-eyed, yet somehow looks scoured out by sadness; she wears heavy clothing even in summer, moves carefully and her manner of holding her orb and sceptre make it look as if she was barely strong enough to lift them...
* She's known to be only opening up the gates for one day. It's like she's decided that she wants her reign confirmed before she closes it up again- perhaps they guess that symptoms have come back and she's not got long to live.
* It certainly makes sense of the interested parties closing in for a carve-up...and in hindsight, could almost certainly be another plausible reason why Hans is so delighted to find that Elsa has a little sister who's the picture of ideal health- it ties up why he seems genuinely struck when he first meets Anna. It makes marrying the sister a much better bet than marrying Elsa and hoping she survives at least nine months, long enough to leave a young heir for him to be regent for.

[[WMG:Even if Elsa does have her powers under control at the end, there will still be people who hate her because of her magic]]
There are likely other people besides the Duke of Weselton who are prejudiced against people who use magic.

[[WMG: The weapons first used on a large scale during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI were originally developed as countermeasures to Elsa]]

Especially flamethrowers and mustard gas.

[[WMG: The government of Arendelle has traditionally always been really, really, ''really'' [[WhatsUpKingDude informal]] by monarchy standards]]
'''Exhibit A:''' It's implied that before King Agdar started isolating Elsa, the castle gates were open all the time, with at least the courtyard being pretty much always open to the public. And at the end, Elsa said she was never closing the gates again (though that conversation had a double meaning about how she was going to be open with her sister from now on, she apparently also meant it literally, and there's no reason to believe this was a new policy as opposed to just putting it back to what it had originally been. In fact, the latter would make the parallel between the literal policy and her sisterly relationship even stronger).

Also, the throwaway line in "For the First Time in Forever", "...who knew we had eight thousand salad plates...?", suggests that before the king closed everything up for Elsa's sake, that the royals previously had a tendency to throw ''very'' large parties, not just intimate gatherings of nobility but huge parties with everyone invited. I mean, the entire population of Arendelle may not be much higher than eight thousand. And of course, what does Elsa do at the end after everything is sorted out? She throws a big ice skating party at the castle, and invites everyone.

'''Exhibit B:''' Before she startled the crap out of them with her previously-unseen ice powers, the commoners in the courtyard during the coronation afterparty seemed like they really wanted to buddy up to her, or ask her why she seemed so upset. This sort of implies a tradition of the commoners not really keeping too much distance from the royalty, and being able to know them personally, with the king's shutting everyone out to protect Elsa being highly unusual. The dynamic in Arendelle overall seems like a small town where everyone knows everyone else, just with "town" replaced with "city-state kingdom", and "mayor" being replaced with "monarch".

'''Exhibit C:''' Arendelle appears to have a very simplistic and naive power structure and set of rules for succession. There doesn't really seem to be much in the way of nobility besides the royal family. With no regent, we're left to believe Elsa became queen immediately after her parents died and she was just putting off her public coronation as long as possible. When Elsa runs off and effectively abandons her authority, Anna apparently recieves absolute power immediately, and there aren't even any safeguards in place to prevent her from delegating nearly all that power to a foreigner she barely knows.

It seems to be a really simplistic governance structure, which with so few safeguards to ensure stability, you wouldn't think would be able to survive for very long at all. Presumably the only reason it has survived, is by being a very small and tight-knit society where the royal family has always maintained an extremely high public approval rating and very strong public support overall. Given that there doesn't appear to be a standing army, but rather just a few town guards (who are few in number), the royal family probably don't have the ability to force their rule if they wanted to, but rather rely on the people just being happy and not wanting to revolt. Hans, the attempted usurper, seems to know very well that to have power in Arendelle, you must make it a priority that the public likes you.

And a very long-standing and strong tradition of seeing the royal family as trustworthy and ultimately good goes a long way towards explaining why everyone is so quick to forgive Elsa for hiding that she's a powerful ice sorceress from them for many years and then nearly causing an eternal winter. If the queen apologizes and explains herself, that's good enough for them, no matter what just happened. When she cleans up the winter she made and says she didn't mean to make it in the first place, they're not inclined to be suspicious of that.

As for how they haven't been flattened by a foreign power, either they have a really strong citizen militia in the style of Switzerland, or else have managed to get themselves set up as a mostly-independent protectorate of a larger kingdom.

'''Exhibit D:''' At the end, no one makes a big deal about the fact that the queen's sister and heir presumptive to the throne is dating a commoner. Unlike most European monarchies, there really don't seem to be any rules in place about "keeping the bloodlines pure", or anything like that. Apparently in Arandelle, anyone can marry into royalty and it's not a big deal.


[[folder: The Royal Family]]

[[WMG: The royal family of Arendelle sucks when it comes to long-term planning]]
This is partly based on a headcanon from this really interesting fanfic that posited that the 'isolate Elsa' thing was originally something meant to last a few weeks, but because of Elsa's issues ended up dragging on throughout her whole childhood. But it does fit with canon:

* What does Elsa do after her powers are revealed? Flee into the mountains and declare that she's going to be alone for the rest of her life. Nice and all... but what was she planning to ''eat''?
** Ice powers would make hunting extremely easy.
*** Hunting, sure, since she can use the ice to freeze attacking animals like wolves. Turning the products into something remotely edible, not so much. Elsa was raised as a princess, so she's not going to know how to prepare meat, make a fire, find anything to supplement her diet, or whatever. Also, even if she hadn't created an eternal winter, there's still natural winter to contend with. Most animals don't come out much during the winter.
* Anna's plan was basically: 1. Look for Elsa. 2. Find Elsa somehow. 3. Talk to Elsa. [[MissingStepsPlan 4.???]] 5. Elsa defrosts Arendelle.
* This WMG also explains why there's no backup power structure in place that prevents woefully unprepared Anna from receiving power (and promptly giving it away to Hans) when Elsa runs off. It just runs in the family that they're uncommonly bad at planning and contingency plans, and that's why their power structure and rules of succession are so simplistic and lacking in safeguards.
[[WMG: Elsa and Anna are actually half-sisters.]]
This is just to explain why Elsa has powers and Anna doesn't. They both share a mother, but Elsa's other parent is someone with ice powers. Personally, my bet's on [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Ithaqua]]
* I'll wager a snow queen from another Disney work had a child out of wedlock and not caring to raise it dumped it on this kingdom's doorstep.
* Or rather than share a mother, they share a father. It's entirely possible to dramatize Elsa's life by having her biological mother [[DeathByChildbirth die while birthing her]] (something which is not implausible in a medieval setting, as childbirth back before modern medicine was a leading cause of death among women), then Agdar remarried, so Idun was the one who gave birth to Anna.
::Either way, this theory also ties in nicely with the above-mentioned WMG that Elsa is a descendant of the Jotuns; her biological parent (either father or mother) was a descendant of the Jotuns with ice powers, which explains why she has ice powers and Anna doesn't.
** It would also explain why we never see Idun talking to Elsa; she always lets Agdar take the lead, as if she feels like it isn't her place to comfort her or give her advice. (I think the only time she talks is when she picks up the stricken Anna and says "She's ice cold!").

[[WMG: Elsa is flatly against the idea of political marriages and love at first sight]]
* Elsa turned down Anna's marriage proposal to Hans not just because of the fact that they had just met, but also for political reasons. This comes from [[Fanfic/SecretPassages one fanfic]] this troper has read, which suggests both sisters had received several betrothal offers. Perhaps Elsa didn't want Anna to marry into the Southern Isles clan because she didn't want to rank the Southern Isles above Arendelle in terms of authority.

[[WMG: The reason neither sister left the castle during the three years between when Agdar and Idun died and when Elsa was coronated is because of a decree Agdar made]]
* This also comes from the fanfic ''Secret Passages'', but suppose that Agdar made some decree that the gates stayed closed until Elsa turned 21. Agdar and Idun died three years before that happened, so for Anna and Elsa, the castle became a GildedCage. For Elsa, this wouldn't be a problem since she theoretically could rule from behind closed doors, though Anna might grow tired of the castle's surroundings.

[[WMG:Elsa ruled as a regent in her parent's stead during that period]]
* There were originally plans for a regent in the script, but the character was cut for time and for irrelevance to the main plot. Perhaps, in the final movie, and again, the fanfic ''Secret Passages'' theorized this: perhaps Elsa was supposed to be her own kingdom's regent. Her title technically was 'Queen Elsa of Arendelle' the moment her parents died, but she didn't get the full authority of a monarch until she turned 21. Thus, while Elsa could do business with other kingdoms, she couldn't do some things like repeal existing laws or create new ones (which would be a matter left off to a council of advisors or something), and she would have had to sign documents with something akin to "Crown Princess Elsa of Arendelle on behalf of the late King Agdar and Queen Idun". So while Elsa technically was the highest ranked person in authority in Arendelle during the three years between her parents' deaths and her cornation, she was only ruling in her parents' stead and had no actual political power of her own until her coronation. This would explain who was in charge before Elsa's coronation, and actually ties in nicely with the previous WMG, because if Elsa didn't have any authority to make new laws or overturn existing ones, she wouldn't have the ability to overturn her parents' decree that the gates stay closed until her coronation even if she wanted to open them.

!! The King and Queen
[[WMG: Elsa unwittingly killed her parents]]
* Elsa's worries about her parents led to their demise across the sea, her powers manifested the very scenario she feared would happen.

[[WMG: Elsa killed her parents on purpose.]]
Sort of. Over the years, despite her loving them, part of her grew to resent them as well, blaming them for her isolation and loneliness. While they were away, she had a particularly bad night, cursing herself, her parents, and wishing they were dead. Unfortunately, her dark thoughts manifested themselves accordingly.

[[WMG:Elsa and Anna's parents died while their ship was on its way to a wedding -- specifically, the second wedding of the king's brother [[WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst Roland II of Enchancia]].]]

[[WMG:Elsa's and Anna's parents aren't dead]]
They were lost at sea and survived. Probably rescued [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid by merpeople]].

[[WMG: Elsa and Anna's parents' ship didn't sink in a squall.]]
I know we saw it go down in a squall, but here me out. What if that was what was said to happen? In my eyes, the real story is that it was sunk by a Southern Isles warship as part of the plan to annex Arendelle (part two was to send Hans to woo Anna). Arendelle was fed false information that the ship was sunk in a squall. By Southern Isle spies, no less.

[[WMG: Rapunzel and Eugene were Stewards of Arendelle until Elsa came of age.]]
Someone had to run the place for those 3 years! The job was given to Elsa and Anna's long lost cousin Rapunzel who brought her husband with her. Rapunzel and Anna became good friends, discussing their urge to see the world and fine arts. Anna didn't quite have Rapunzel's talent, but she had been exposed to many great works and liked looking at them with her cousin. Rapunzel unwittingly inspired Anna with a desire to find True Love with a handsome stranger after telling her how she met Eugene. (She skipped the part where she hit him with a skillet.) They both tried to convince Elsa to come out and join them (Rapunzel couldn't for the life of her understand why someone would willingly lock themselves up.) but she wouldn't have it. Not even to join in on the dance lessons Rapunzel and Eugene hosted so that they'd be ready for the coronation ball. They were surprised but very understanding when Elsa's powers were revealed.
* Nice, but I'd have thought that Rapunzel, of all people, wouldn't have left Anna with so little company and stimulation if she'd been present.

!! Ancestors & Descendants
[[WMG:Elsa's descendant will be [[Franchise/XMen Bobby Drake. AKA Iceman]]]]
Hey, mutants are born with the gene. Who's to say that Bobby didn't inherit it from his frost wielding ancestor?

[[WMG: Elsa and Anna are Distant Relatives of [[VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories Cheryl Heather Mason.]] ]]

In the 2009 re-imagining of the first ''Silent Hill'', the player character (Harry Mason) is revealed to be [[spoiler: a manifestation of the tormented psyche of his daughter, Cheryl, who has been controlling (to some extent) both his actions and the environment as she comes to terms with his death in a car crash]].

Distinct similarities exist between the worlds that Cheryl's father explores and the one created by Elsa in ''Frozen''. While the climate of the region where most of the ''Silent Hill'' games are set (Maine) would obviously allow for winter weather in the middle of the winter, the snow that falls on the town in ''Shattered Memories'' is exceptionally heavy. In addition, it appears to have fallen since Cheryl [[spoiler: arrived for her appointment with Dr. Kauffman]], because there would be no way for a person to travel if it hadn't. In some places, it is piled up over the road to a height of around ten feet. While this could be accepted as [[spoiler: just a psychological manifestation, there is really no indication that the events of the game don't take place in the physical world, and some fairly strong evidence that they might (including some tapes and messages left by individuals who Cheryl would have no way of knowing).]] Cheryl's Snow World and the eternal winter that Elsa brings to Arendelle are facially very similar.

At certain times in the game, when Cheryl is abnormally stressed, the Snow World turns to an icy Otherworld similar in aesthetics to the versions of Elsa's ice castle and Arendelle that are visible when [[spoiler: Elsa learns that she has plunged the city into everlasting winter and when she wakes up after being knocked unconscious by a chandelier, respectively]]. Jutting, sharp outcroppings of ice appear and the general atmosphere changes dramatically.

Finally, the last portions of the game, when Harry Mason is nearing the end of his search for his daughter, occur in an area sometimes called Nowhere, where the environment is twisted enough to play fast and loose with the laws of physics and spatial placement. An analogous environment exists in ''Frozen'' on two occasions, one near the beginning of the film [[spoiler: when Elsa and Anna's parents die]] and one near the end [[spoiler: when Elsa believes that Anna is dead]]. Although in these instances there isn't any spatial distortion, the environment becomes highly distorted, and snowflakes freeze in midair.

Although the creatures in ''Shattered Memories'' appear to be flesh and blood, Harry Mason's [[spoiler: turn to solid ice near the end of the game]] makes it distinctly possible that they are formed from ice and snow, and given "fleshy" features by Cheryl's delusions.

So, to recap, Elsa and Cheryl both have the ability to create blizzards. The ice and snow that they generate changes its attributes along with their moods. Beyond that, they can apparently create life from snow. ''Silent Hill: Shattered Memories'' is set in the present, while ''Frozen'' is set in around the 1840s. The idea that Cheryl could be a distant relative (or possibly even a descendent) of the two main characters of ''Frozen'' definitely puts a darker spin on what would have happened to Arendelle had things turned out a bit differently.

[[WMG:Elsa is a descendent of Nancy and Edward from ''Film/{{Enchanted}}''.]]
Her power, like [[Theatre/{{Wicked}} Elphaba]]'s, originates from having ancestors from two different worlds. (Basically, every Idina Menzel character is connected somehow.)

[[WMG:Elsa's crown had an enchantment that counteracted her powers]]
Consider that Olaf got impaled through the torso with an icicle and impaled through the head with a carrot and neither one really bothered him that much. (He didn't even notice the icicle at first) Of course this makes sense because he's made of snow, and like any snowman, his body material can easily be rearranged to fix any holes or dents that might appear in him.

But when Marshmallow steps on Elsa's itty-bitty crown in the post-credits scene, he recoils as if it really hurt him. This doesn't make sense, especially when you consider how much smaller the crown is in proportion to him, compared to the icicle and Olaf. So it would seem that something about the crown makes it more painful to magical snowmen then icicles and carrots. Perhaps it was enchanted by an ancestor of Elsa's who also suffered from Elsa's snow magic, and enchanted their own crown in order to keep their powers suppressed. So why is Elsa able to use her magic when she's wearing it? Well perhaps the enchantment has substantially weakened over the centuries, or perhaps the original owner's powers were far weaker then Elsa's.

Either way, something about it makes it painful to magical snowmen. Pain is usually a primal indicator for something that threatens our health or lives, so the fact that Marshmallow finds the crown painful may indicate it's damaging to the magic that gives him life.

[[folder:Kristoff & Sven]]
[[WMG:Anna and Kristoff will be [[TheRival rivals]] before they hook up.]]
I think it would be a coo... neat dynamic. Instead of being friendly they would rather do it by themselves. Then as the cold world proves too dangerous to survive in alone, they decide to help one another survive and then they grow to love each other more than anything else. I just think that would be a nice dynamic that still seems like Disney.

[[WMG:Elsa only appointed Kristoff "Official Ice Master and Deliverer" to give him a good reason to stay in Arendelle aside from Anna and so that he wouldn't feel useless until he and Anna can confirm that yes, they ''are'' truly in love.]]
After all, a job that involves delivering ice is kind of redundant and unnecessary in a kingdom where its queen can quite literally produce all the ice they could ever actually need. Once Kristoff and Anna presumably get married, he'll inevitably get some other, less redundant position and title.
* Well someone does need to deliver it to stores and the like. Though it’s unknown if Elsa's ice is even safe for consumption.
** Olaf is made out of Elsa's ice, and heat melts him down to water like any other ice.
*** That doesn't necessarily mean he's safe to eat/drink, either due to magical dangers or more mundane toxicity. That said, Sven does eat snowflakes generated by Elsa's magic, and he seems okay.

[[WMG:Kristoff is a Changeling Child.]]
In the intro he's seen as a child going off to work with the adults. While in the 19th century, child labour laws were... laxer... before the industrial revolution, he would still be working with his father as an ice collector. Given how Bulda says that she'll "Keep" him and Sven it's fitting when you know mythology this would then make Kristoff a changeling. This also opens up a can of WhateverHappenedToTheMouse as to the possible troll-child that may have replaced him.
* Isn't Kristoff an orphan? It seemed to be implied, at least, by the fact that he didn't seem to have any relation to any of the men, no-one stopped to look for him or call to him while the men were leaving or when he and Sven followed the carriage, and it would mean that the trolls wouldn't have had to leave a replacement since Kristoff had no-one to miss him.
* Actually, it kind of works. Trolls were among the creatures who would steal children. Notably, they were especially attracted to blondes and beauty. Sometimes they would just take the child because they liked human children. Sometimes they'd leave a piece of enchanted wood, which would get sick and 'die', or just a fairy, and sometimes the stolen child would return home and in return for working with the fey folk, they themselves would have gifts, like abnormal strength and stamina. The idea of Kristoff being intended as a Fetch (the term for the child who is stolen) is remarkably close to folklore.
** Also, given the establishment of the trolls' abilities to edit memories in the film it would also make the line Kristoff says "It was just Sven and me growing up" make sense as well: they erased any memories of his biological parents. The trolls could have possibly removed the memories of his true parents, which pushes it towards FridgeHorror.

[[WMG: Sven is actually a girl.]]
At the very beginning of the movie, we see Kristoff and Sven already together as young children; they are still together years later, when Kristoff is about 21. But male reindeer only live about ten years; female reindeer live about eighteen to twenty years. So given that Sven is still alive and in robust health well over ten years after the opening of the film, Sven must be female. Also, among Scandinavian reindeer, older males' antlers fall off in December, while younger males' fall off in Spring; only females keep their antlers into Summer, which is when the movie is set. So, clearly then, Sven is a girl.
* As Sven is still clearly a young fawn in the prologue, (s)he would have been less than a year old. Deer grow to adult size in the space of about a year, so he's (or she's) about 14.
* Actually, these things would also apply if Sven had been castrated early in life (which does happen.) Eunuch reindeer are also particularly large and strong, which would account for why Sven can pull such big, heavy sleds without needing a companion.

[[WMG: Kristoff's real job is going to be as ambassador to the trolls.]]
Ice Master and Distributor? That's not a thing. It's really just a cover for Kristoff's real assignment, which is to be Arendelle's ambassador to the trolls. It makes sense for Elsa to keep his real job a secret, because she doesn't want the rest of the world to know of the trolls' existence, or where they're located. Having a monopoly on that information could be strategically useful for her.
* This works as there's a good chance that Elsa might ''need'' the trolls at some point. Grand Pabbie's understanding of her condition isn't perfect but it's usually the best anyone has to go on.
** For that matter, Kristoff's education by trolls (and experience in extreme weather) means he's probably got some relevant skills to help look after Elsa if things get serious again.

[[WMG: Sven is actually telepathic.]]
When Kristoff speaks "for" Sven, Sven's facial expressions are spot-on in time with Kristoff's words. It's like there literally is no delay as if Sven is miming along with Kristoff (or the other way around, where Kristoff makes up Sven's words to match his expressions). Perhaps after so long together, Kristoff can actually hear Sven's voice in his head and speaks aloud for him. He may not even know it consciously; it's possible Sven speaks to Kristoff with subconscious ideas which then form Kristoff's ideas as to what Sven should say.
* There's at least [[Fanfic/FrozenWight one fanfic]] that (jokingly) [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10196597/18/Frozen-Wight runs with that idea.]]

[[WMG: Kristoff once did something really dreadful and that's why he spurns humans.]]
The Trolls are Trolls, but they are good guys and they wouldn't stop Kristoff socialising with humans. They even know that he's socially impaired. When Anna comes along, they are delighted that he's finally opening up to girls. But in his past, Kristoff did something terrible. Maybe he hurt somebody accidentally, or ignored somebody in need of help, and now he's avoiding humans because he's ashamed and can't forgive himself. When he sings "The Reindeer Song", he's voicing Sven because he's trying to reassure himself. And in "Fixer-Upper", Bulda's words apply very well to Anna and Elsa, but she doesn't know about that - maybe she's talking about Kristoff's past?
--> '''Bulda:''' People make bad choices if they're mad or scared or stressed,
--> But throw a little love their way, and you'll bring out their best!


[[folder: Olaf and Marshmallow]]
[[WMG:Olaf and Marshmallow are manifested aspects of Elsa's personality.]]
Olaf clearly represents the love Elsa has for her sister, a childish thing that somehow still persists even when he should melt. Marshmallow is her sense of responsibility, overwhelming and scary [[spoiler:but happy to put on the tiara in TheStinger complete with a cute little smile.]]

[[WMG:Olaf and Sven get turned into humans by Elsa]]
Olaf and Sven get turned into humans and narrowly avoid going down with the Titanic

[[WMG: The living ice, like Olaf and Marshmallow, is unstable.]]
It doesn't look like the rest of Elsa's magic actually melts when it comes in contact with heat, except the things that never fully froze in the first place (the candlestick and the container when she was practising for her coronation ceremony, as well as the actual items themselves at the coronation). It can only be melted by Elsa herself. Case in point, her dress, her castle ice rink, and her entire ''winter'' don't melt, despite the fact that it's summer. The castle likely has all of its fires going, yet it's insides still freeze completely; we even see it freeze a room where a fire is lit. The ballroom unfroze after the incident with Anna no doubt subconsciously, because at the time, Elsa didn't have control over her powers. Likely they unfroze in her sleep, where she can't control her feelings, which is how her bedroom unfroze. It's also why she didn't know how to undo it; she never did it consciously and thought it all unfroze of its own accord. Living ice however, is an unstable part of her magic, perhaps because they're built from stronger, possibly unstable emotions than anything else she makes. Olaf was built absent mindedly in a giddy fit of '''joy''' where Marshmallow was built consciously out of a desperate fit of her desire to '''protect''' people from herself. Neither time was Elsa really thinking straight when she intentionally used her powers. There are four times Elsa's power really varies and they have relatively consistent results:
* Total focus on both her powers and what they're doing (freezing the ballroom as a child, creating the ice castle, freezing the castle courtyard, creating her dress, unfreezing Arendelle)
* Focus on her powers, slight focus on her emotions (any time she panics or is angry)
* When she's put 100% focus on something ''other'' than her powers (the deaths of her family members)
* Focus on her emotions, absent focus on her powers. (the creations of Olaf and of Marshmallow)
I think the reason Elsa never made living snow creatures before Olaf is before, she was always focusing on her powers once she accidentally hurt Anna, meaning there was never a time when she was focusing on her emotions and using her powers until she left Arendelle.

[[WMG:Olaf and Marshmallow will die once Elsa dies]]
It's totally possible that the two {{Snowlem}}s' life force is tied to Elsa's; Should she die, [[NoOntologicalInertia the two will cease to live]]. Taking this further, it may also be possible that her death will cause her ice palace in the mountain to crumble, although considering its solid design and its location (up in the cold mountain), this is less likely.

[[WMG:The reason behind Olaf's dream to experience summer is because of Elsa.]]
* When Elsa created him, he ended up reflecting the part of her that yearns to no longer be surrounded in the cold (as result of her ice powers).

[[WMG:Olaf was supposed to melt permanently, but this was cut.]]
It seems very odd that they foreshadowed a snowman melting numerous times, even in song, and then didn't go through with it. Maybe the focus groups disliked it.
* It would of been way too sad and melancholic - it's probably wise they cut it, because 'kill the comic relief' has kind of been done before [[spoiler:in ''The Black Cauldron'' (though it was ultimately averted), and that was depressing as hell...]]
** Not to mention it would be even more similar to [[WesternAnimation/FrostyTheSnowman another iconic snowman]], and they didn't want to raise comparisons.

[[WMG:Olaf has real, flesh and blood eyeballs.]]
It certainly looks that way. What would happen if he melted?

[[WMG:Olaf can always locate the sisters, no matter what.]]
Building off the idea that Olaf is a manifestation of Elsa's bond with Anna, Olaf will always know where they are. He knew exactly where to go to lead Anna and Kristoff to Elsa when they asked. And while that occasion can be attributed to the fact she made him and thus he was just retracing his steps, he is later able to find Anna in the palace. Rather than wandering around the place blindly and likely sparking off some more panic about the living snowman, he finds the exact locked door that had Anna behind it. He probably doesn't think there's anything special about the fact he can always find the girls, so he never mentions it.
* Perhaps this means Olaf is 'programmed' to find and protect Anna, and his brain (if he has one) is wired so that he can scan his surroundings and locate her at a moment's notice.

[[WMG:Olaf wants to experience summer because he likes warm hugs.]]
And doesn't understand the difference between literal warmth and metaphorical warmth.
* That would explain his fascinated "So that's what heat is!" when he finally feels literal warmth after lighting the fireplace; it was the first time he realized it was something different from the warm-and-fuzzy feeling of a good hug.
[[WMG:Olaf was envisioned by young Elsa to be a snowman who loves summer.]]
* It's exactly the kind of thing an 8-year-old like Elsa at the start of the movie might easily think of, and it would explain why she has Olaf say "I like warm hugs" instead of just "hugs". Anna's outpouring of love at seeing Olaf suggests that he might be a familiar recurring character whenever she and Elsa create their indoor winter playground, not just that one time. So it would make sense that Elsa would eventually, after the first few times, invent an elaborate backstory for Olaf and give him his name. And if Olaf was around a lot during their play, then everything he seemed to know in the movie, he might have learned as the two sisters talked around him.
** Given how [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9983319/2/Frozen-A-Dark-Retelling this fanfic]] chose to expand on that scene by having them give Olaf (who has been really cut out from the main part of the plot) "pets" like a horse and a dog, that actually would be a very plausible answer.
[[WMG:Olaf is not wise about love.]]
While his definition of love is good, [[spoiler:putting the other persons needs ahead of your own]] he has a very narrow belief about how it is expressed. He believes if you love something you let it go and remove yourself from the picture, and does not understand that this is not always true. This is demonstrated by the one selfless act he chose to represent love [[spoiler:Kristoff taking her to her true love and leaving her life forever]], and the fact that he believes [[spoiler:Kristoff coming back]] lessened it.
* He probably feels that way because that's how Elsa thinks. For years, she felt she was protecting Anna by staying away from her. He's just going off what she believes.
* Putting someone else's needs above your own and still being present in their lives aren't mutually exclusive. Olaf may have used that as an example because it was the most applicable to their situation.
[[WMG: The reason Olaf is so fascinated by summer is because he was born in summer.]]
It's summer when he was created, so perhaps that's why? He inherently knows that ''right now'' it's July, and he knows what summer is like because Elsa does (or perhaps because Elsa herself was born in the summer does he know).

[[WMG: Olaf knew all along what would happen to him in the heat.]]
He's not a DeathSeeker, nor a masochist, he simply wanted to experience summer/heat because of the aforementioned WMG and to test if the same would happen to ''living'' snow. He's not even a little surprised that he's melting, and when he experiences the heat, he's not ''surprised'' he's ''fascinated''. Even when he accidentally sets himself on fire, where he's about as startled as someone stumbling over their cat. He knew full well what would happen if he lit the fire for Anna, but his love and adoration for her made him want to do it anyway for her.
* This matches my feeling on the matter. His feelings on summer seem to be more that he ''knows'' he's being amusing.

[[WMG: Olaf is not quite the symbol of love between Elsa and Anna.]]
Marshmallow is apparently the symbol of Elsa's wish to be left alone, but his duty as the protector of the ice palace may be a bit more literal: He may have been a symbol of Elsa's need to protect herself. With that in mind, it's possible that Olaf is more like the symbol of Elsa's wish to protect Anna.

Let's consider a few things:
* Despite being created by Elsa somewhere very close to the ice palace, he doesn't immediately greet Elsa upon gaining conscience, and instead wanders down the hill, wandering almost aimlessly for about a day and a half until he stumbles upon Anna and Kristoff in the glade. As a proof, Elsa has never seen Olaf[[note]]to be more precise, Elsa has never seen a walking, talking Olaf[[/note]] up until Anna finds her, not to mention that Olaf merely guesses that Elsa must be "the nicest, gentlest, warmest person ever", hinting that he doesn't know anything about Elsa except that she is his creator.
* Olaf sticks by Anna all the time. He could have tried to negotiate with Elsa when Marshmallow throws the party out of the palace, but no, he follows Anna when they flee from Marshmallow. And after that he sticks by Anna, at least until they arrive at Arendelle.
* Upon reaching Arendelle, Olaf goes to find Anna first, instead of trying to find Elsa. Sure, the weather has gotten bad by that point such that trying to look for Elsa, who at that point is probably already wandering the vast, obscured fjords, will be a chore, but no, he doesn't even try to go after Elsa.

So in a sense, Olaf is created by Elsa to be Anna's protector, or at the very least, counselor and advisor of sorts, while Elsa chooses to live in solitude. Yes, Olaf's birth is accidental, but surely it's possible that while reveling in solitude, Elsa also makes a wish for her sister to be happy, and that wish becomes Olaf?

[[WMG:Olaf is a 'safe' object for Elsa's repressed urge to love something small and vulnerable]]
Possibly going with the idea that Elsa is sexually repressed and certainly has a lot of unacknowledged affectionate, semi-maternal feelings (mostly towards Anna) that she has difficulty expressing without it seeming dangerous and wrong: one of the first things that she does when she 'lets go' and creates her own safe place is to create a being who's innocent, affectionate and vaguely built to the proportions of a toddler... and incidentally is something that Elsa could cuddle without worrying she'd hurt him (and one of the few things he knows is that he likes warm hugs...) She doesn't realise it and events take over before she can do so (though there is every chance they have an affectionate relationship after the film.)

[[WMG: Olaf is an artistic representation of Elsa.]]

A lot of artists represent themselves in their work, and Elsa is no different. Consider that Olaf is a loving being who likes warm hugs. But if he were to be hugged, he would melt. Similarly, Elsa wants love and human companionship, but is afraid people will be physically and emotionally hurt if they get close. It's safer for her to stay cold, even though she would rather indulge her sense of fun. As someone else noted, it's a fight between her Olaf side and her Marshmallow side. But Elsa, like Olaf, eventually learns that some people are worth melting for, such as Anna. Also like Olaf, she is able to "regenerate" with her two sides balanced once [[spoiler: her love melts Anna's frozen heart.]] Granted, she's not experiencing physical death by "melting" the way Olaf would, but the emotional death she fears has just as big an impact.

[[WMG: If Elsa's magic is not nullified by her death, Olaf is heir to the throne of Arendelle.]]

She made him, and he was the first sentient snowman she created, so he's arguably her son and therefor a prince.

[[WMG:Marshmallow [[SamusIsAGirl is actually female]].]]
This is partially because it wore Elsa's tiara in TheStinger, and partially because Marshmallow didn't feel like it had to have a specified gender.
* Does Marshmallow have any sex? It's a {{Snowlem}}, after all, not a biological organism.
** I think that's a clearly male voice that shouted "''DON'T COME BAACK!!''"
[[WMG: After the events of the film, Marshmallow goes on to become Arendelle's equivalent of [[BigfootSasquatchAndYeti the Yeti]]]]
* TheStinger implies that he (or she) is still out there in the wilderness somewhere, and may have grown less aggressive, but is probably still shy of humans due to the state of mind Elsa was in when she created him/her. Long after the events of the movie, travelers occasionally return from the mountains with stories of encountering a giant snow beast, but are seldom believed due to lack of evidence. [[note]]Somehow this train of thought stemmed from Malinda Kathleen Reese's Google Translate version of "Do You Wanna Build A Snowman?", where, in the second verse, the title drop becomes "Would you like to build a Yeti?"[[/note]]


[[WMG:Hans is an {{Expy}} of [[{{Gargoyles}} Xanatos]].]]
* Handsome, rich, charismatic, amoral, and very good at XanatosSpeedChess...
[[WMG:Love can bring out the best in Hans too.]]
* As the trolls said,
-->We’re not saying you can change him, ‘cuz people don’t really change,
-->We’re only saying that love’s a force that’s powerful and strange
-->People make bad choices if they’re mad, or scared, or stressed
-->Throw a little love their way, and you’ll bring out their best
** The problem is that the Trolls are saying that people CAN'T be changed - you can tweak their flaws and overlook their eccentricities, but they don't CHANGE. Meaning that Hans CAN'T become better.
* At least, it would raise some pretty serious UnfortunateImplications if this didn't apply to everyone, including Hans.
** True, although one should avoid UnfortunateImplications what that could be. Hans does have certain qualities to recommend him- he's very bright, highly motivated, certainly capable of tremendous courage- and perhaps it would make him and everyone else happier if they were channelled for the greater good, rather than the 'bad choices' that apparently come out of anger from his dysfunctional background. One just has to remember that Bulda said people don't really change...
[[WMG:Hans is a repressed fire mage.]]
Hans has fire powers that are kept in check only by his frozen heart. Since by the end of the film he has seen Anna's act of true love thaw her frozen heart, there is a possibility that his own frozen heart might also begin to thaw at some point, unlocking his fire powers and subjecting him to the same hardships that Elsa had endured. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone (Or more severe harships, since his conscience will be much heavier with guilt than Elsa's.)]] Then, he loses his grip on his pyrokinesis, accidentally plunging the Southern Isles into a HeatWave, and forcing Elsa and the gang to help him control his magical powers.
* Alternatively, Hans is cold and unfeeling ''because''- unlike Elsa- he successfully trained himself (perhaps because it would be much more quickly evident that his power was a serious problem) to have an extremely shallow emotional affect, so he has no PowerIncontinence problems, if indeed he can even use them at all now. Which suggests what a horrible mistake Elsa was making in thinking the answer was 'don't feel'! Hans really ''doesn't'' feel and, unlike her, he really is a monster.

[[WMG:Hans has a couple of those mirror shards from the Original story in his eye and heart.]]
And if and when he ever gets those shards out, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone his guilt is going]] [[VillainousBSOD to hit him like a freight train.]]
* I like this theory.
** Me too, and this related to the theory way above that ''Frozen'' takes place after "The Snow Queen".
* Plausible, given that the 'cure' for the mirror shards is either true love or the tears of someone who truly loves you, and both Hans and WordOfGod states that his childhood was loveless, meaning that there'd be no-one who could cure him and possibly no-one who'd even notice the change in behavior caused by the shards. (Given his ability to deceive others, that might have been the case anyway.)
** Beyond that, if he were really that miserable in childhood, he could have unknowingly invited them in. He could have made a heartfelt wish to stop the rejection making him feel so unhappy... and ended up unable to feel almost anything but bitter contempt.
*** Would explain why he shrugs off the 'invisibility' thing when it horrifies Anna.
* To add to this theory, being in close proximity to Anna's act of true love started to thaw Hans' frozen heart too, and his bafflement at Anna's recovery was the start of his VillainousBSOD. (Well, assuming it wasn't caused by repeated head injuries.)
* Alternatively, a member of Hans' family, a parent or brother (possibly both,) had a few mirror shards put in them. Hence why they treated Hans so coldly throughout his life.
** Leading onto that, perhaps the shards of ice are a genetic thing? As the next child is born, the shards grow smaller but remain permanently. However, they can grow bigger if love is withdrawn from the person-which would explain Hans's behaviour and resentment towards his brothers. And it could also make a person into a sociopath. Combine that with a desire to impress his siblings and gain respect, and you have Hans.

[[WMG:[[spoiler:Hans originally was supposed to die]]]]
[[spoiler:During the climax where Hans was about to kill Elsa and Anna's HeroicSacrifice shattered Hans' sword, Hans was originally meant to turn to ice as [[LiterallyShatteredLives well and shattered upon impact]]. But the writers changed possibly because it will cause a PlotHole when one of the Princes of the Southern Isles is dead.]]
* [[spoiler:He was the thirteenth in the line of succession. And if he's to be believed, would anyone have even ''noticed'' him disappearing?]]
** Yes, unless he was literally illegitimate; even spares are royal, and if one goes missing or turns up dead on a diplomatic errand, especially in the wake of a widespread, hard-to-hide supernatural occurrence like this eternal winter, there would definitely be a lot of questions asked, even if there's no actual fondness for Hans. The only people who know the truth about what happened are all invested in Arendelle, have no proof, and wouldn't be without bias if they were thought to be lying (plus one is a snowman who happened to be accidentally animated by a possible suspect, so...). Sending Hans back alive and letting his family deal with it was the best option.

[[WMG:Hans is gay]]
It would explain why [[spoiler:he's so adamant in gaining power, to be in a position where he can feel safe from persecution, and to make up for being an "embarrassment" to the Southern Isles royal family. Besides, his shared hidden identity motif with Elsa has to run deeper than simply being a duplicitous jerk.]] There's also the whole [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_male_sexual_orientation theory]] regarding fraternal birth order and homosexuality. The more brothers a man has that are older than him, the more likely he supposedly is to be gay. Hans has 12 older brothers.
I found the implications of [[http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jun/27/science/sci-brothers27 this study]] to be hilarious for Hans.
* "The so-called fraternal birth order effect is small: Each older brother increases the chances by 33%. Assuming the base rate of homosexuality among men is 2%, it would take '''11 older brothers''' to give the next son about '''a 50-50 chance of being gay'''." And you have ''how many'' brothers again, Hans?
** He could be bisexual, as a reference to Hans Christen Anderson.

[[WMG:Hans believed that Elsa intentionally [[spoiler:froze Anna's heart.]] ]]
Anna only vaguely says that [[spoiler:she was wrong about Elsa not ever hurting her and doesn't explain it was a stress-induced accident, if I recall correctly. Hans, being a big jerk that isn't familiar with loving sibling relationships, interpreted this to mean Elsa attacked her sister on purpose, though she now regrets either her actions or the extent of the damage.]] This theory's truth or falsehood doesn't really have any impact on anything else, but I think the idea makes sense and is kind of interesting.
* After Anna unfreezes, Hans says in disbelief, "But she froze your heart!" to Anna. Perhaps the subtext is, "She froze your heart. ''Why'' the hell would you save her from me?" It shows that he doesn't grasp the concept of wholesome sibling relationships.

[[WMG:By the same token, Hans thought (at the early stages of their relationship) that Anna would be cool with the whole 'orchestrate your sister's death before she has time to marry and produce a child, inherit everything' part of his plans]].]]
[[spoiler:Again because Hans is Hans and would have done that to his brothers if there weren't too many of his brothers, nephews etc. to get away with that. Obviously he would have realised at some stage that Elsa and Anna didn't operate like that (possibly as early as when Anna rode out into the storm to look for Elsa) but up until then all he knew was that their relationship wasn't good.]]
* Honestly, it wouldn't be too unbelievable to think that, especially in a royal family. In history, killing off people above you in the succession line was pretty much to be expected, and considering how Anna was complaining about Elsa and they'd just had a fight, he would probably think she would be okay with it.

[[WMG:Hans came to believe both sisters were sorceresses, even if Anna didn't know]]
Due to Grand Pabbie wiping Anna's memories of Elsa's magic, Anna has a witch lock, and she was locked away with Elsa. And as much as Elsa's personality is ice, Anna's is fire. Hans was too afraid that he would trigger Anna's power. Remove fire when it would be an easy way to destroy the statue. Don’t kiss Anna, (why not he's not her true love, but her passion might light the fire).

[[WMG:A few interrelated [=WMGs=] regarding Hans' birth:]]
Hans is the youngest of 13 brothers, and this is just counting male siblings -- it's possible this is just a humorously large Disney family, and it's not outside the realm of possibility, but consider how many other Disney princes and princesses seem to be only children or at the very least have an unremarkable number of siblings, unless they have stepsiblings, sometimes wicked, sometimes benign, such as in the WMG that Ariel's sisters in ''The Little Mermaid'' are her half-sisters by multiple moms. Multiple births (twins, triplets, etc.) are perilous for the mother, even today, and even noblewomen in a still-vaguely-medieval milieu would experience quite a toll on their health from carrying a great number of children to term. [[spoiler:Either some of the siblings are adopted, giving Hans a possible [[Film/{{Thor}} Loki]] complex, or they are all by the same mother, making DeathByChildbirth a very possible reason why Hans is the youngest at 18 or so, or they are by different mothers and there is perhaps an inherited reason why Hans sees women as insignificant, replaceable, and functionally interchangeable]]. Alternately, [[spoiler:might he be the closest thing Disney will get to showing a BastardBastard?]]
* You're forgetting that real life royalty and nobility pre-birth control often had a significant number of children. They purposely sent the kids out to wet-nurse to not get the contraceptive benefit of breastfeeding and could have many more children that way.
** Still, 13 sons and God knows how many daughters is a lot for one woman to bear, especially in the days before modern medicine. It's just as likely that Hans's mother was one of his father's mistresses.
*** If Hans's father had multiple mistresses, that would basically say that Hans may have only had two or three full-blooded brothers (sharing a mother and father). Many fanfics actually like to go with the idea that the rest of Hans's brothers would be ''half''-brothers at most, all sharing a womanizing father, and he just refers to them as if they were full-blooded brothers because he likes rounding up.
*** The twelve older brothers are ahead of Hans in the line of succession- he's very clear about that- so if we're going by realistic standards of any European monarchy of the period, they would have to be born legitimate- if their mother was anyone other than the king's legal wife they wouldn't count in terms of inheritance. You have to remember that this issue of legitimacy was the real-life reason why Queen Victoria ascended to the throne of England instead of any of her uncle's children. However it's still possible that they had different mothers- widowed fathers with young families- and thanks to the mortality rate of childbirth there were a lot of those- usually tried to give their kids a stepmother, which may well mean he had more children. (And if those poor queens of the Southern Isles were having daughters as well as thirteen sons between them, it would be little wonder if they were worn to exhaustion as babymaking machines... the family might even have been born over several decades.)

[[WMG:Hans will reappear in a later movie]]
Under a pseudonym and with a slight alteration to his appearance of course (like a goatee or shaving his sideburns), but he's one of the few Disney villains whose only comeuppance is that he's sent home in disgrace. Given his determination to off both Anna and Elsa for a throne, what's stopping him going to a further off kingdom where fewer people are likely to recognise him and try again? (Actually thinking about it, who's to say that he hadn't tried this small scale somewhere else ''before''?)
* Or possibly come back to work as an unpaid stable boy in the castle or somewhere in Arendelle as a punishment, as the fandom is currently suggesting.
* Pretty much confirmed in ''Frozen Fever'', in which Hans briefly appears as he is shoveling horse manure, and gets hit by a giant snowball Elsa sneezed.
* He has the charge of usurpation levied against him, and the French ambassadorial lord offering to drop him off at the Isles appears to concur with this charge. Unless he escapes, he will likely be facing justice back home. And probably one of his older brothers acting in an ambassadorial capacity will be sent to Arendelle to try and smooth out diplomatic relations.
* Some recent interviews with Santino Fontana (Hans's voice actor) suggest that Hans might get a shot at redemption when the official sequel is made.

[[WMG:Hans' brothers are [[http://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheWildSwans_e.html the Wild Swans]]]]
Since it's also a Hans Christian Andersen story. (The number is off by one, but there are multiple variations of the story.) They're actually his stepbrothers: his mother cursed them into turning into swans in order to give him a chance at the throne. However, his stepsister reversed the curse, but he doesn't know she was responsible, and when the brothers returned, the queen got her comeuppance. Hans learned from her mistakes, and won't go so far as to use magic and curses to achieve his ends, instead using subtle manipulation.

[[WMG:[[http://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/1tjexi/frozen_was_the_villain_being_manipulated_into/ Hans is evil because the trolls bewitched him]]]]
It has often been complained that Hans' descent into evil happened way too quickly and felt like ThirdActStupidity. The trolls openly sing 'Get the fiancé out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed' in ''Fixer Upper''. After Hans is imprisoned, Anna dates Kristoff, or at least shows a romantic interest in him, as the trolls hoped for.

The trolls have already shown to have questionable morals and ability to rewrite human brains. Hans' evilness kicks in directly before he kisses Anna which would confirm/deny whether or not they share true love. Taking Hans' seemingly genuine fondness for Anna, his efforts to be a good leader and his heartfelt plea for Elsa to avoid killing, this suggests a possibility that Hans was trying very hard to balance his ambitious nature with a desire to be a good person, and the trolls had a hand in [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil pushing him down the slippery slope]] to make sure their [[OneTruePairing OTP]] became canon.
* What 'questionable morals' are you referring to? The trolls are overbearing and insensitive, yes- but that's not on the same level as brainwashing for fun and profit. Their advice about Elsa's powers was misinterpreted by Elsa and her family- the sorrow it led to was not their fault.
** Grand Pabbie tampering with Anna's brain without her consent, even if it was 'for her own good', and showing Elsa scary visions about her powers when she was already frightened out of her wits and horrified of what she'd done is pretty damn questionable if you ask me. The parents were worse, but the trolls were pretty terrible mentors themselves.
*** Consent? It's not "evil" to save someone's life, just because they're too unconscious to give consent. Plus she was a child, so her father could give consent on her behalf. I'm not saying the trolls and her parents didn't make a mistake, but it clearly wasn't born of malice.
** [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation Okay, that could work]]. But the only way they could cast the magic would be to direct it miles away (if the family's mountain ride is any indication) to a person they have never met before...and know almost nothing about, aside from 'he's Anna's fiancé'...? Still possible, but highly dubious. Magic is not a Google search engine. (Elsa is an exception, being a different species and largely [[PowerIncontinence uncontrollable]] for the film's duration. Remember, we have no indication that the trolls are similar to her in power range or magic type; their abilities and methods of using magic are quite different.)
*** They could have somehow attached the spell t Anna, so that the next time they were together it would affect Hans. 'Cause, I mean, let's say he was going to kiss Anna... but the spell took effect right then, because he had come extremely close to her.
* I don't know. This all just seems like an excuse to apply DracoInLeatherPants to a very cleverly conceived and unique Disney villain.
* He is neither cleverly conceived nor unique among Disney villains
* No. It doesn't work. Grand Pabbie specifically says that the heart can't be changed so easily.
* He could have been lying.
** Does he seem like the type of mythological being that lies to you, if their medical and magical knowledge is good enough to show a possible future for Elsa?
*** Suppose on the off hand that Kristoff suddenly overhears about the trolls bewitching Hans to make sure their [[OneTruePairing OTP]] became canon, what would his reaction be? I'd suggest that he would be horrified at the realization that the trolls hexed an innocent man into pushing him down the slope, and would begin to see Grand Pabbie as a BrokenPedestal.
* The Film Theorists has a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6NgT_6jGE theory]] about this as well.

[[WMG: Hans is the mirror]]
As detailed [[http://aeternuslunae.tumblr.com/post/75878400208/dastardlyhans-kioewen-prince-hans-the here]].
* Does that mean that he's the "Man in the Mirror"?

[[WMG: Hans and his family are related to Prince Charming.]]
Hans has a similar colouring to Prince Charming from Cinderella, and his uniform is very similar too. Since Hans is an inversion of the Prince Charming archetype, I think there may be some connection. Perhaps one of his oldest brother ''is'' Prince Charming, or Hans' family are the direct descendants of the Prince. That may explain why Hans was able to mimic the "Prince Charming" character so well, because it's so well-known; he heard stories of his ancestor and his marriage to Cinderella (a girl that he only met once, not dissimilar to how quickly Anna and Hans got unofficially engaged) from his parents and it may be part of his kingdom's legacy, so he was able to look, act and dress the part of the perfect suitor while hiding his ''real'' motives. Charming's ideals may even be something of great importance to Hans' kingdom, which is why Arendelle knew that sending him back to his brothers would be a perfect punishment, as Hans betrayed the image and ideals that he was raised to follow (just not like ''that'').

[[WMG: Hans heard his mother say the same words he uses on [[spoiler: Anna]] ]]
Or even worse, she used it on him.
-->[[spoiler: Hans:]] "Oh [[spoiler: Anna]], if only there was someone out there who loved you."
** [[http://myed89.tumblr.com/post/74540088369/oh-hans Here's the comic that this refers to, by the way.]]

[[WMG: Hans is not working on his own agenda.]]
His older brothers staged a coup, and are threatening to publicly execute the king and queen unless Hans covertly takes over a kingdom to prove his worth to them. Hans genuinely liked Anna, and his evil acts were nothing but a show. He never actually intended to kill Elsa, only make it look like he killed her. When he returned to the Southern Isles, he was declared useless and executed, along with his parents. The Southern Isles eventually became part of modern day Germany, and an offspring of one of Hans' brothers, under the pseudonym Adolf Hitler, started World War II.
* This seems to be like another DracoInLeatherPants theory to me.
* Well, you'd have to bribe a lot of people, as that would take a big risk and you'd have to be sure to cut Elsa in on the score.

[[WMG: Hans' brothers aren't all neglectful.]]
With the exception of the few eldest, Hans' brothers are all quite fond of each other. They find solace in each other because their parents focus only on the princes who are old enough to hold the throne at some point. This is why he sought power in another country, rather than interfering in his own country.
* This leads to one of my theory - Hans has twelve older brothers, and he mentioned that some of them acted like he didn't exist for several years. Actually, he isn't lying a whole lot - he's just telling how he himself remembered it. They "Acted like he didn't exist" when he was very young, yet that was when his oldest few brothers were well into their teen years and adulthood around this time. While they were off getting married or being trained how to rule the Southern Isles, he was being a kid, and being as self-centered as kids are, thought they were shutting him out because they hated him as opposed to what really was happening. This leads into the WMG mentioned that, with the exception of the few eldest, Hans's brothers are all quite fond of each other. Because he never actually said ''which'' brothers shut him out, he could easily fool Anna (and the viewers.)
** Unfortunately, none of Hans' brothers loved him strongly enough to thaw his frozen heart, per WordOfGod.
** The words he used were not 'acted like he didn't exist' but 'pretended he was invisible'- probably a common enough prank to play for an hour or so, but pretty cruel to keep up for a long time, and to do it for ''two years'' is certainly beyond normal brothers messing each other about, it's horrible, at whatever age.
** ''Series/OnceUponATime'' suggests that Hans is on good terms with at least ''some'' of his brothers, enough to get them to help him out in his secondary attempts to overthrow Arendelle, although when Kristoff is spying on them in their camp, some of the brothers are seen mocking Hans for his previous failure to get the throne, and the ones that accompany him to accost Elsa and Kristoff over the urn flee when Ingrid comes out of the urn and freezes Hans into a statue.
* Obviously as the youngest of thirteen brothers (with possibly more siblings if Hans had any sisters), Hans didn't get the attention and nurture a child needs. His parents had a lot of kids to divide their time - the eldest and second-eldest to train as kings, and older sons to find good marriages for and middle sons to give important duties to. It's not unlikely that as youngest, Hans became increasingly convinced that he was unloved. Not having the time for him doesn't mean they didn't love him, and it doesn't mean all of his brothers bullied him and it certainly doesn't mean he was beaten daily with a stick. What it ''does'' mean is that any statement about him growing up without love is still accurate. Being a sociopath takes all of that treatment and then adds the ruthless ambition and complete lack of empathy to it.
** I always felt like Hans' parents sent him to Arendelle as a representative of the country. They hoped this would make him feel important, but by that time he saw it as an opportunity.
* Another perspective on this was that the emotional abuse that he does allude to was entirely ''real'' but it wasn't the whole story. (He might not even be wholly aware that it's not the whole story...) Hans might have been surrounded by biological family who ignored and belittled him... but it's a royal household and would have had a huge team of servants, who may well have been under obligation to treat even small children of the royal family as if they were practically demigods, always speaking to them reverentially, bowing to them as soon as they could walk. (Indeed, depending on the Southern Isles' culture, their reverence might even have had some truth in it.) Now, a person can grow up fairly normal and nice with one of these factors, which is how Anna and Elsa's childhoods likely would have turned out had the accident not happened (most people who have abusive families certainly have issues but are not usually total empathy vacuums), but having both, and a gulf between the two of any normal, affectionate human connection, would be an ideal way to raise a kid to have a personality disorder.

[[WMG: Hans ''is'' Hans Christian Andersen]]
When he returns to the Southern Isles, [[spoiler: his family disowns him and he is forced to make his way in the world as a traveling storyteller. Writing The Snow Queen was his way of getting a petty little revenge against the sisters who foiled his master plan.]]
** Actually, in RealLife Andersen claimed to have modelled the Snow Queen on the very famous(and very emotionally troubled) Swedish opera singer Jenny Lind (the 'Swedish Nightingale'), who rejected him romantically. If you look up Lind's life and character: ashamed all her life of being illegitimate, rather lost her childhood at about seven when she was pushed out to perform as a child prodigy, upsetting family upheavals in her teens, too shy and pious to be happy in the opera, a HeroicBSOD at 23 when she had to pull out of public life for a year... that the Snow Queen gets an adaptational rehabilitation as Elsa is a hilarious GeniusBonus.
** Or he wrote The Snow Queen to get a little revenge against his brothers for ignoring him. He was the mirror and the school of trolls who created the mirror were his brothers.

[[WMG:Hans's TheWisePrince act isn't entirely an act.]]
He's a backstabbing manipulator, sure, but that's all politics and business. Outside of his efforts to seduce Anna, his various PetTheDog moments [[NiceToTheWaiter are all genuine]] because he's [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething that sort of guy.]] Which of course, still leaves him plotting to seize the throne of Arendelle because he wants his own kingdom and he knows he won't get it being the 12th SpareToTheThrone back in the Southern Isles. Compare to the Duke of Weselton, who is a greedy fear mongering miser, but has no intentions of trying to launch a coup of a sovereign nation. Assuming these to be true in both cases, they make for a very interesting set of foils for each other.
* I suppose that he still has a shred of humanity in him. He also wants to be an adored ruler, so he certainly won't be launching wars unless otherwise. And of course he could finally have the power he craved, the respect he never had and the love that he never got in the first place.
** ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'' shows that Hans does have some humanity within him, as he genuinely did care for his mother and Lars. But he let his DaddyIssues poison his mind, and we all know what happened.
* Hans seems to have a thing about wearing other, better, perhaps more balanced personalities (like his method-acting at his first meeting with Anna, carrying on the act behind her back.) Living his fantasies of various ideal selves- but maybe especially the one of being a Beowulf-esque hero king- means so much to him he's prepared to do horrifying things to build a world where he doesn't have to step out of them. It does tie in with the WordOfGod that Hans has serious rejection issues (that is the usual pattern for someone who wants massive public adulation).
** To take this further, it's entirely possible that had Anna's heart not been struck by ice, Hans would have played the perfect prince for the rest of his life, and never betrayed Arendelle. Even if he is a psychopath, he is still capable of intellectually understanding right and wrong, and he could easily be smart enough to realize that playing TheWisePrince would have netted him the best possible outcome. So up until the almost-kiss, he was genuinely planning to be a good suitor and husband to Anna. But then he ran up against the one thing that he could not fool: magic itself. He could fake love brilliantly, but he could not genuinely feel it. And so, as he could not save Anna, he rewrote his entire plan on the spot (that's why his plan seemed somewhat sloppy thereafter, he was making it up in seconds). Being a psychopath, he might very well not have seen why his plans thereafter were wrong.

[[WMG:Hans was acting on orders from his parents/brothers/the primary political power of the Southern Isles.]]
A fairly-prosperous, politically-vulnerable kingdom with important stakes in trade is always nice to have, and the Southern Isles are either successful enough to harbor imperial aspirations or sufficiently-taxed to deem usurping a sovereign nation an acceptable risk. (With ''thirteen'' male heirs, they're going to run out of land and titles fast.) As the youngest son, Hans is the least likely to gain a legitimate inheritance, and the most expendable when shit hits the fan; when the Isles heard about Arendelle's only royals, two very attractive and unattached young women in their late teens/early twenties, Hans was the natural representative. This doesn't change anything about Hans' own goals or character, and he would almost definitely have tried to make Arendelle his base of power instead of just part of the Southern Isles hegemony; it just means that while he might be jailed or executed, his brothers won't be surprised by his attempted coup.

[[WMG:Hans is a distant but estranged cousin of Anna and Elsa]]
Check out any shot that shows Anna and Hans together in profile. Sure, his features are heavier - men's are - but there's definitely something of the same basic structure of the nose and forehead. Additionally, Hans has some physical similarities to King Adgar.
* As their countries definitely seem to be next-door neighbors (for a start, English seems to be the first language of Arendelle, Weselton, and the Southern Isles), it wouldn't be surprising if the families had intermarried many generations ago.
* Them being even first cousins probably wouldn't in itself be an obstacle to their marriage, for royal families of this period, though it's the kind of detail they should probably have at least checked first.
* More importantly it actually gives a bit more strength to the authority he assumes when Anna leaves him as regent (which is otherwise extremely tenuous - they haven't even established or announced the engagement yet and even if they were married, Prince Consorts don't automatically have most of the rights he seems to think he has.) If he's related to the established family, even tenuously, it makes a little more sense of why the country seems to accept him so readily.

[[WMG:Elsa never liked Hans from the start]]
She instantly had him tagged as a GoldDigger, or at least someone who was mostly interested in Anna for the wrong reasons. Maybe she's less pissed by what she suspects are his motives than the fact that she suspects he's mislead Anna about them.
* She's extremely short with him at the coronation, to the point of very un-regal rudeness, when she finds out he proposed to Anna behind her back. Later, when stuff got serious and he has her in shackles in prison, she still doesn't want to talk to him- despite wanting Anna kept away, whatever she does have to say she only wants to say to Anna, not the man she still assumes is her sister's lover.
* Sure, the fact that she tells him to 'take care of' Anna at the end - more or less consent to the marriage- means she has no idea ''quite'' how bad he is - but then, in their circles a politically-motivated marriage is probably only a morally grey thing, and many people who marry for money or status of both sexes can make reasonably dutiful spouses and not the be least bit murderous.
* Perhaps, as a [[Whatevermancy cryomancer]], Elsa could sense the frozen heart under Han's mask. But since she was still inexperienced with her powers (and hadn't encountered a frozen heart in a long time), she didn't realize what it was she was sensing. So she knew there was something wrong with Hans, but not what it was.

[[WMG:Hans is at least in part a HeroismAddict]]
Doesn't excuse, or even explain, all of his behaviour, at least not towards Anna, but at least explains why his TheWisePrince act is so effective. And many features of the trope actually sound strikingly like Hans.

[[WMG:Hans is... whatever he is because he's RoyallyScrewedUp, and the rest of the family are just as bad if not worse]]
Why is he the sole delegate of the Southern Isles? (There's a Headscratchers entry to this effect.) Perhaps he's one of the few Westergards who's sufficiently high-functioning to pass as normal for quite a while.
* The business of 'pretending he was invisible'- it wasn't systematic bullying, it was ''psychosis''.

[[WMG:Hans is a WMG/TimeLord.]]
As Disney/BigHero6 reveals in a FreezeFrameBonus, he's wanted by the San Fransokyo Police Department. Clearly, he is a time-traveling maniac out to cause chaos in as many points in time as he can.

[[WMG:Hans is a member of [[Film/JamesBond SPECTRE]].]]
He manipulated Anna into thinking that she was in love, but in actuality, only wanted to control Arendelle's throne. Ernst Stavro Blofeld, hearing of his exploits, offers him to join SPECTRE (after he was imprisoned and stripped of his noble privileges) as a way to extract revenge on his own family and come up with a new scheme to take over Arendelle. Hans readily joins him but is slightly weary, knowing how ruthless Number One is in terms of dealing with problem employees, but nevertheless accepts Blofeld's offer to get his revenge and seize control of Arendelle.

[[WMG:Hans has serious sewing skills.]]
Regardless of royalty, thirteen kids is ''thirteen'' kids, meaning Hans was probably stuck in hand-me-downs for several years. As a kid with lots of time alone, Hans learned how to customize what he had to work with, and he translated that into how to modify his scheme against the throne of Arendelle accordingly when the entire eternal winter thing started.
* Fits with a wide assumption that Hans is or has been in the Navy. Sailors at the time usually learned to look after their clothes, and Hans is a SharpDressedMan for most of his scenes.
* Seemingly confirmed by one of the official coloring books.

[[WMG: In the next film Hans will attempt to redeem himself by seducing a female villain, and betraying her to save the heroes...and he'll fail.]]
She'll play along for about a minute while he slips the MacGuffin away from her, then she'll basically say "nice try," and grab it back. You have to admit that someone seeing through his act for a change would be interesting. Also, it would leave him off-guard, and vulnerable, so we could finally get to see his better side, without feeling like it's all an act.

[[WMG:It was decided that it was inappropriate for the target demographic to actually see Hans' face after [[spoiler:Anna hit him]]]]
[[spoiler:That punch was ''hard''- frame-by-frame animation reveals that Hans' face was madly distorted to get it to look right, and he ''arced backwards''- impressive as Anna's several inches shorter than him. It doesn't make sense that it ''wouldn't'' leave some nasty bruising- there's even the sound effect of a crunch that sounds very much like a breaking nose- but we never see Hans face-on after it happens- in the epilogue he noticeably keeps his back to the camera.]]
* [[spoiler:For a heroic character- or any other- to hit someone like that without it being in immediate self-defence is rare in a Disney film. It might have only got a pass because it's the only obvious comeuppance Hans gets (his actual fate is left open to interpretation). To show whether Anna inflicted actual injury or not might have been felt to be too much emphasis on violence for kids.]]
[[WMG:Hans was screwed up not by his parents, but by whoever was responsible for educating him]]
This was pointed out on the Headscratchers page that Hans was probably raised by a nanny or governess given that wealthy people normally did not have much contact with their children in this movie's time period (Anna and Elsa's parents being a possible exception to this rule, but only because Elsa is a human snow machine gun). And at the time, many of the people who got these particular job occupations tended to only get the job due to family status and not due to competence. And there are many records of incompetent, neglectful, abusive or downright crazy governesses holding their positions in respectable homes because the charge's parents paid them to just keep the children out of their hair until they were teenagers and never really checked what was going on. If anything, there's a good reason to assume whoever was responsible for raising Hans in his childhood may have been one of these incompetent or abusive caretakers.

[[WMG:Hans is a serial killer, not a real prince.]]
He actually comes from [[Disney/BigHero6 San Fransokyo]] and he goes by the name Westerguard. However, due to creating a high publicity for himself, he used a time travel device to escape to the past. But his bloodlust was still active, so he decided to target two royal sisters ForTheEvulz. Unfortunately, when his plan failed, he used the time travel device to get back to his own time. When he did, he discovered a new challenge for him in the form of six new superheroes...

[[WMG: In the next film, Hans will be cynical and bitter as a result of his punishment.]]
Given how possible it is that his family ''will not'' be pleased when he comes back, Hans will probably be shown in the next film bearing scars as a result of implied torture or flogging, and working in a labour camp, possibly in Australia, breaking rocks. As a result of resentment towards his family, Elsa and Anna, if he does return to help, he will be pessimistic and rude to the main characters in the first half, which could set up an event where the trolls use his remaining love to give him a more... positive outlook on life. Or perhaps Olaf's infectious joy causes him to become more optimistic. Or he will be appreciated when he does something that helps the heroes escape.

[[WMG:Hans has witnessed a [[DeconstructedTrope deconstruction]] of LivingEmotionalCrutch.]]
My money's on with his own parents. One of them (I picture the father, but it can work either way) was emotionally unstable, while the other kept his/her spouse in check. Unfortunately, the crutch parent died, so the unstable one went off the deep end and became [[AbusiveParents abusive]] and/or [[ParentalNeglect neglectful]] to Hans and his older brothers. From this experience, Hans developed a negative outlook on love, though not exactly "LoveIsAWeakness." More like "Love can make you strong, but can destroy your mind just as easily."

[[WMG: Hans is acquitted of attempting to usurp Arendelle's throne]]
The only person to whom Hans admitted his plans was Anna, and she was suffering from magically-induced hypothermia at the time. Not exactly the most reliable witness.
* I doubt it. Technically, Anna saw Hans about to swing a sword at Elsa with the intent of killing her. Regardless of her state of mind, Elsa probably saw Hans drawing his sword with the same intent. Depending on how close he was, Kristoff would have witnessed it too.
* This has been {{Jossed}} by ''Frozen Fever'', which shows Hans shoveling manure back at the Southern Isles and getting pummeled by a massive snowball Elsa sneezed out, suggesting he was punished for his crimes.

[[WMG:Hans' personality in the betrayal scene is not his real self.]]
Specifically, he was still mirroring someone else, but instead of present company, it was someone from his ''memories''. The person (or at least one of the people) who shaped his selfish viewpoint, and taught him that it's every man for himself.
* My money is on one of his brothers, probably the eldest, who's likely a MagnificentBastard. His brothers are more present than their parents, and it's not uncommon for siblings to play larger roles than parents in the lives of younger siblings, especially if the parents are distant, busy, or otherwise absent, ex. royals. While his famous line could come from an abusive parent, it sounds a ''lot'' like something an elder sibling might say to a younger sibling, a crueler version of the "You're really adopted!" taunt. It wasn't his [[{{Fanon}} mother]] he heard it from, it was his oldest brother.
-->"Oh, Hans... If only there was someone out there who loved you."
* Supported by the fact that he only took off one of his gloves in that scene. If we take "removing gloves" as "revealing one's true self" symbolism, then we've only seen one layer below his mask and there's another side to him we still haven't seen yet. Also when Elsa lost one glove she revealed the "monstrous" side of herself to everyone at the party and she didn't truly become herself until she took off the other glove and let go of her fears. In the sequel Hans will lose both his gloves and we'll finally see his real self.
** Considering Hans has been compared to the mirror from the Snow Queen and he simply reflects what people want to see, he's probably doing the same for himself. He's reflecting his brothers or possibly his father, someone he thinks is the ideal king. Should someone point this out to him, he'd probably comment on how when he looks at his own reflection and doesn't know what he sees.

[[WMG:Some of Hans's older brothers are actually half-brothers.]]
See above the theory on Hans's birth.

[[WMG:In addition to his 12 older brothers, Hans has at least one sister.]]
Hans' only interest in his brothers is that they are obstacles to the throne. Assuming that only males are eligible to succeed the king, his sister would not be an obstacle to the throne. As such, she might be beneath Hans' notice and he doesn't bother mentioning her.

[[WMG: Hans has some sort of latent MediumAwareness]]
Which is why in the scene where he meets Anna, he keeps that goofy smile on even after she turns around: he's fooling ''the audience'' as well as Anna.

[[WMG: If Hans gets redeemed and takes another level in Badass in the sequel:]]
He will end up as an Admiral within Arendelle's navy and launch several successful campaigns against hostile pirates plaguing Arendelle and its allies. And due to his sword-fighting skills, Hans could very well become a legendary RedBaron-style figure to the pirates and a FrontlineGeneral to his men, leading his crew into battle and boarding ships himself if required. Eventually, he will go down in history as a talented naval commander and pirate-fighting Badass.

[[WMG: Hans's betrayal was not caused by lust for power, but being horrified at the realization of how irresponsible Elsa and Anna would be as rulers.]]
The troubles begin, when Elsa freaks out and starts the ice age in her own kingdom and runs away. We don't learn about the consequences of Elsa's freezing spree, because of NoEndorHolocaust, but there is no way an entire city being plunged from the middle of summer into an ice age in an instant doesn't kill thousands of people. How many people get caught outside in a freezing weather in their summer clothes? How many of those homes have their windows open? How many people have firewood stocked? How many children were playing in the beaches with their feet in the water when it froze over? Even running to the home and digging up some winter clothing could take such a long time that there had to be dozens of casualties.

Elsa freaks out after being touched and responds by plunging her own kingdom into an ice age. Then, instead of helping her own subjects in their hour of need she abandons them in a massive tantrum. The safety of thousands of people doesn't even factor into her mind. Anna is almost as bad. After Elsa froze up her own kingdom and bolted, the responsibility over the people transfers to princess Anna, but what does she do? Does she make sure that people don't freeze to death or that everyone is safe? No, it doesn't even enter into her mind. She only thinks about her sister, the cause of the whole mess. She dumps the crown on a stranger she just met that day. Just about any other person in the city would have made a more responsible choice to guide the kingdom through this recent crisis. She just abandons everyone to a cold death to go and help the only person in the kingdom guaranteed to not have to worry about freezing to death in the next couple of hours.

Prince Hans is left with the responsibility of helping the citizens of the kingdom not die horribly in this instant Ice age and for what we know, he does this job with admirable responsibility and swiftness. He is acting with the kind of care a responsible ruler should act. How many people he saved from a freezing death? Then Prince Hans becomes worried about Anna and mounts a rescue mission. He still acts all fine and heroic, even talks Elsa out of becoming a monster - in full contradiction to the opportunistic-throne-snatcher-story. It is only after Hans returns to the city that he reveals he wants both Anna and Elsa dead and himself on the throne.

What if Hans changing his act had nothing to do with being power hungry usurper? Maybe he just learned the true extent of the death toll of Elsa's initial rampage to the kingdom, saw the mountains of frozen corpses people had dug up from the snow in the mean time and decided that Elsa and Anna were thoroughly incompetent as rulers. Maybe he realized that Elsa and Anna were both uncaring, neglectful narcissists who didn't care about their own subjects' suffering one bit and decided that the kingdom would be better off without them. Hans's claim to Anna that he wanted the throne may have been simply his attempt to spare dying Anna's feelings before she died. There was no need for him to reveal her, what a horrible ruler he thought she was. Let her die thinking that he was just being a selfish jerk after the throne. Let her think that she is just an innocent victim rather than a terrible threat to the kingdom that needs to be eliminated for the good of the people. She doesn't need to know, how many mothers cry in the city over their corpsicle children. This also explains why Hans neglects to get married with Anna and thus insert himself to the succession of the crown before her death. He doesn't really care about the throne at this point.

Once Anna is dead, Hans can put Elsa on trial for her atrocities counting on her guilt to prevent her from murdering the court. For all we know Hans might not even have cared for the throne for himself, although saving the kingdom from a mass-murdering ice witch may have led to the noblemen to elect him to the throne. However, when Anna and Elsa break free and defeat Hans, the budding revolution withers. Anyone wishing for revolution quiets down in fear and no one dares to protest further the continuation of Elsa's reign of terror, happy songs and casual mass murder.

[[WMG: Theories on why Hans was abused.]]
Everyone knows that Hans was bullied from a young age by his family for being the unlucky 13th in line, and ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'' shows that he was repeatedly mocked for being ineffectual. But could there be a more sinister and darker reason as to why he was abused in the first place?
* A common theory is that he was born with hidden magical powers. Many fanfics show him having {{Pyrokinesis}} as a stark contrast to Elsa's cryokinesis, and as a result, his family bullied him for this.
* MaternalDeathBlameTheChild is also common in many fanfics, as Hans was blamed by his family for being responsible for the queen's death.
* It's also possible that they bullied him for no reason other than being meek and docile.
* Another theory is that his father was cursed by a sorceress, foretelling that his 13th child will be responsible for his downfall, causing him and his 12 older sons to endlessly bully Hans.
** A way to make greater use of this theory is if there is a surprise via ProphecyTwist. The prediction did not outright declare ''Hans'' would cause his father's downfall, but vaguely warn how "one of his sons would betray him," which would ruin the king. When Hans did something as a boy — rebel with serious repercussions, manifest powers, be involved in his mother's death, etc. — the king believed he had found the future traitor and instigated the bullying of his youngest in retribution. During the climax of Frozen 2, it will be revealed that he was mistaken: The abuse he suffered ensured Hans was never on the king's side to begin with, and therefore cannot "betray" him. One of Hans' older brothers double-crosses their father and ends his tyranny for good.
** Perhaps that traitor could be Lars?

[[WMG: Hans did not understand why Elsa rejected him.]]
If you leave out all issues of love and personal happiness, Hans is a pretty good match from a purely utilitarian point of view. He comes from the royal family of what we may assume to be a fairly powerful and influential kingdom (since it's one of the few that sent an envoy to Elsa's coronation), yet he's simultaneously far enough down the line of succession that there's virtually no risk of hi, ending up as the king of both nations and subjecting Arendelle to become a vassal state for the Southern Isles and rely on them for economic and military aid. He's young, physically fit, healthy, smart, and since he comes from a marriage that produced thirteen children, he has a better than average chance of siring heirs. Even if Elsa wanted someone better for herself, he'd be more than good enough to spend Anna's marriage on. So to Hans, who probably couldn't understand love, there seemed no imaginable reason for Elsa to reject his suit.

[[folder:The Southern Isles]]
[[WMG: The Southern Isles will erupt into civil war when the king dies.]]
WordOfGod has confirmed that Hans' older brothers were NotSoDifferent from Hans, combined with the fact that ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'' revealed that their father has turned the Southern Isles into a corrupt and totalitarian dictatorship. Once the king dies or steps down, even if he named Caleb, his oldest son, as his heir, that legitimacy will be challenged and before long, the kingdom will end up looking like [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire Westeros]]. As the brothers fight among themselves, Hans will secretly offer his services to the highest bidder, [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder changing loyalties as different factions gain the upper hand]], until one of his brothers runs a sword through him. Elsa will end up deploying her navy to defend the neighboring kingdom of [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Corona]] as some of the brothers attempt to conquer nearby countries to consolidate their base. In the end, the entire Westergaard clan will end in bloodshed, Elsa will annex the Southern Isles into Arendelle and the people of the Southern Isles will enjoy a new age of peace and prosperity, heralding Elsa and Anna as the liberators who overthrew the hated Westergaard line.
* Alternate theory: Hans's entire reason for wanting to marry into the Arendelle family line was to secretly escape the inevitable uprising.
* Another theory: Hans, realizing his actions in Arendelle became the catalyst for a civil war in the Southern Isles, [[KarmaHoudini secretly slips to the United States after breaking out of prison]], as the insurrection in his homeland has created great political instability in Europe, becomes wealthy thanks to the gold mining rush in California, and his descendants eventually [[Disney/BigHero6 became prominent in the development of San Fransokyo in later years]] - leading to the theory that Fred of Big Hero 6 descended from him. Elsa and company are unaware of his whereabouts, as it's possible he may have died or became KarmaHoudini.

[[WMG:The Westergaards are not of the Southern Isles' ancient line of kings.]]
In Denmark, the country which the Southern Isles is based on, "Westergaard" is a reasonably common family name. It is possible that Hans' paternal ancestry arose from a lesser noble lineage, and became the ruling family when a past king chose a member of it as heir. Either Hans' father, or a couple of generations before.
* This could be an explanation for the King's temperament. He feels the need to compensate for his lack of "pure royal blood" by ruling the Southern Isles and his family as an iron-fisted authoritarian.
* Another theory is that he was spoiled too much by his parents, thinking that he decided he wanted a better life because of his ego, and so, he betrayed everyone he knew and manipulated his way to being a ruler [[ItsAllAboutMe so he can have the riches and power he thinks he deserves]]. If the king had any siblings, it's possible he may have rubbed them out so there won't be any obstacle to his power-hungry quest to success.
** It's possible that his siblings were favored by their parents, which causes him to be DrivenByEnvy and [[TheResenter jealousy]], and so, [[CainAndAbel he killed them]] in various ways so he'll be elevated to the throne much quicker.

[[WMG:Hans' eldest brother has already become King of the Southern Isles.]]
While ''A Frozen Heart'' says otherwise, the book is not indisputably canon to the films. The dignitary escorting him home did say they would see, "what [Hans'] twelve big brothers think of his behaviour." He strangely does not mention their parents.

[[WMG:Two of Hans' older brothers...]]
...realized that they were not likely to be in line for the throne of the Southern Isles, so they struck out on their own as thieves and hired thugs. They became known as the Stabbington Brothers.

[[WMG:Hans’ brothers are all [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructions]] of the PrinceCharming trope.]]
There’s twelve of them (sans the heir apparent); it’s unlikely that Hans was the only one vying for recognition growing up. Desperate to "find their own place," the twelve older princes of the Southern Isles dedicated themselves wholly to reaching perfection in their occupations (royal navy, council member) or an individual talent. This has reduced them to shallow stereotypes, e.g. TheSmartGuy, the lothario, the JerkJock. Yes, there’s little to back this up, but that is why it’s WildMassGuessing.

[[WMG:The Southern Isles is Denmark redesigned as an archipelago.]]
The geography is virtually the same, except "Jutland" is an island rather than a peninsula.

[[WMG:The Southern Isles' palace will be inspired by Frederiksborg Castle.]]
To hammer down how the Southern Isles is Denmark's FantasyCounterpartCulture.

[[folder:The Duke of Weselton]]
[[WMG:Prince Hans and the Duke of Weselton are related.]]
It has been revealed that [[http://www.therotoscopers.com/2013/07/11/new-character-images-from-disneys-frozen-unveiled-officially/ Hans has twelve older brothers.]] The Duke has [[http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/frozen-duke-of-weselton.jpg two bodyguards]] that somewhat resemble Hans, albeit much older. The Duke could be Hans's father, uncle, grandfather, or even an older but authoritative cousin. In addition, Hans grew up "feeling practically invisible", which could suggest that the Duke forgot Hans existed, and therefore never bothered using Hans as his yes-man.
** That either of the bodyguards is one Hans' family would be odd, unless they're bastard descendants of the Southern Isles' ruling family or distant cousins.
** It would hardly be surprising if most, if not all, of the major royal characters have some common ancestry, if the kingdoms are implied to be close together and share some common language and heritage. It was usually the way for monarchies of states thus connected to constantly marry their children to one another, when they weren't actually at war with each other- by the start of WWI most of the monarchs of Protestant Europe were at least distant cousins. And remember how many of Queen Victoria's children married into other ruling families. Another WMG entry also suggested that Hans could be distantly related to Anna and Elsa as a second or even third cousin.

[[WMG:The Duke is a Control Freak]]
People born with magic is obviously a well-known (if rare) phenomenon, so clearly, his mistrust of Elsa after she's outted isn't due to [[BurnTheWitch irrational hatred]], but because ''he'' has no magic of his own, and given how [[{{Greed}} he is focused solely on the acquisition of wealth (and status if manageable)]], it stands to reason that he wouldn't appreciate anything not under his control.

[[WMG:The Duke is as much a sovereign as Elsa, and her father before her]]
While it's true that a Duke is a noble rank, it can also be a monarchical one. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke See The Other Wiki for more details.]]
* Well he would have to be, he's after trade, not taxes.
** Both highly ranked noblemen and sovereigns would have good reasons to care about trade.
** If not the monarch himself, 'Duke' is often a title bestowed on the monarch's close family: a king's younger brother, or a Queen Regent's husband (or given his advanced years, the monarch's uncle, or widower of a Queen Regent whose adult son is now king).

[[WMG:The Duke is actually present in his capacity as Prime Minister of a state that runs on slightly more modern lines than Arendelle]]
* This is almost certainly coincidence (only spotted due to a verbal slip) but the Duke of Weselton is probably very close in age to the UsefulNotes/TheDukeOfWellington, who was Prime Minister of England for a short time within a reasonable timeframe for ''Frozen''. (Not that apart from his age, rank and taste in uniforms and boots does this Duke have anything else in common with said six-foot stoic.)
** Not for long, given how badly he screwed up relations with Arendelle at the worst possible time. If he were merely the ''foreign'' minister he could be thrown under the wagon to avoid a no-confidence vote, but with him in charge, his party is a write-off for the next decade at best.

[[WMG:[[Series/RipperStreet Fred Best]] is the lost heir to Weselton.]]
The man we know as Fred was misplaced as a child (or deliberately pilfered by one of his father's trading rivals?) and left in a basket on the front steps of a printshop; he grew up an ink-streaked urchin unaware of his true birthright. Pointy features, slight stature, devious and resourceful nature, and magnificent mustache -- how clearly he bears these signs of his heritage!

[[WMG:Weselton doesn't just have bad blood with Arendelle, but also with the Southern Isles]]
Hans disagrees with the Duke when the Duke accosts him for giving away "tradable goods" to Arendelle's public, who really need said blankets badly. Hans seems noticeably irritated and does sound a bit harsh when he tells the Duke off by saying "Do not question the Princess. She left ''me'' in charge, and I will not hesitate to protect Arendelle from treason!" Now, some note that it seems to show the cruelty Hans hides beneath his public persona, but I'd also reasonably imagine that Hans's feelings toward the Duke's condescending attitude were genuine. It's entirely possible that Weselton tends to end up losing trade agreements with other countries pretty easily, and maybe the Southern Isles cut trade off with Weselton for reasons unexplained during the current Duke's time in his job.

[[WMG:The Duke of Weselton's prejudice against those who use magic stems from unfortunate incidents involving other members of Arendelle's royal family with ice powers]]
If the ''Series/OnceUponATime'' episode "The Snow Queen" is taken as canon, the Duke of Weselton had a girlfriend who was accidentally murdered by her ice-power equipped sister because of his manipulations, and some of his memories of the incident survived Grand Pabbie's memory wiping.

[[WMG:The reason the Duke was so close and nearly got got hit when Elsa's powers misfired during Anna and Elsa's argument at the coronation afterparty, was that he was deliberately staying close to them to eavesdrop on their conversation.]]
Although afterwards his main role is the "burn the witch!" guy, his initial reason for being there was to try and see if his visit could be used to glean information that would give him economic/trade advantage. He probably was paying very close attention to the queen and her sister to see if any useful secrets would be let slip.

[[folder:The Trolls]]
[[WMG:The trolls' prophecy ''wasn't'' referring to Anna and Elsa...]]
...but rather, to the [[HoYay infamous]] ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' anime scene involving Andromeda Shun [[IntimateHealing warming up Cygnus Hyoga with his Cosmo]] at the Libra Temple.
[[WMG:Also related to Saint Seiya: Elsa is an ancestor of the Crystal Saint, and the first ever user of ice Cosmo.]]

[[WMG:A stone/earth mage used to live in Arendelle.]]
That's how the trolls were created, and why they have so much knowledge of magic - their creator taught them about it. The speed with which Anna's parents realize, 'Oh, our daughter has been wounded by magic, we must take her to the trolls' implies that magic powers, though rare, are not unprecedented in the film's universe.

[[WMG:The Trolls are psychic]]
Okay so, since I saw ''Frozen'' I've more or less been listening to the soundtrack on repeat in my car, and I've discovered something:

The trolls have the power to know everything about you by looking at you. And they give super cryptic hints about everything.

In the opening of the movie, King Agdar takes young Anna and Elsa to the trolls, and Grand Pabbie immediately knew that he was the king, Anna had a shard of ice in her brain, and Elsa had ice powers. There was no questioning done, he just knew these things. He then told the King that fear was going to be Elsa's worst enemy, which the king takes to mean other people being afraid of Elsa, but what the troll meant was Elsa's fear of her own powers.

Which brings us to later in the film, and "Fixer Upper". At the start of the song the trolls just assume that Kristoff brought Anna home to meet them so they go into the tradition of families everywhere by embarrassing him in front of his date.

That is, UNTIL he tells them she's engaged to someone else. Then they all use their power to look at her for the first time to figure out what she's doing there.

The next verse is about how Anna needs to MurderTheHypotenuse, which would be a SUPER rude thing to say to someone, especially someone you just met. But the trolls know he's evil, so they're telling her to get rid of him "Get the fiancé out of the way and the whole thing will be fixed". Sure, Elsa refused to let Anna marry someone she just met and Kristoff was outright incredulous that Anna got engaged to someone she just met, but they seemed to be telling her 'get to know him better' where the trolls outright say 'dump this guy right now'.

The next line is 'We're not saying you can change him 'cuz people don't really change' sung to Anna. At first it would seem that this line is about Kristoff, but why would Anna want to change anything about Kristoff? I think this line is about [[spoiler:Hans, and it’s the trolls way of saying 'Don't stay in a relationship with him after you learn he's evil, it won't do any good']]. The trolls can't see the future, just everything about your own past.

After that you get the lines 'We're only saying that love's a force that's powerful and strange. People make bad choices if they're mad or scared or stressed, throw a little love their way and you'll bring out their best'. This and the next verse is their advice about [[spoiler:Elsa. Anna needs to forgive her for being a jerk on top of the mountain, and the only way to end the eternal winter is to make Elsa feel love - the selfless act of love Anna does for her at the end]].

Finally the song ends with a rushed marriage between Kristoff and Anna. The trolls were never serious about this; they just wanted to drive home the point of how silly it is to marry someone you just met to Anna.

Then Grand Pabbie comes out again and gives Anna some more cryptic advice because they can never tell things straight. But they know things.
* I always thought (and Headscratchers has more) that Grand Pabbie and the other trolls recognized Agdar because his face is plastered all over Arendelle's currency, currency that people might have given the trolls as payment for spells or something they dropped while running away in pants-pissing terror after the rocks came to life.
[[WMG: The rock trolls can see the RedStringOfFate]]
Kristoff says his family is made of "love experts" yet they try to force him and Anna into marriage immediately. This is because they can tell that the two are soulmates, and so whoever Anna is engaged to is ''obviously'' not the right guy for her. They don't bother explaining this because they think that everyone can do it and Anna is simply turned off by some minor flaw. The fact that Kristoff can't do this is one more reason they think he is "socially impaired".

[[WMG: King Agdar and Queen Idun didn't misinterpret Grand Pabbie's advice]]
Grand Pabbie wants Elsa to repress her powers. Think about it: Out of all the images he could have shown Elsa, why would he show her an angry mob attacking her? He was trying to convey that Elsa needed to learn to control her powers. Why not show her an image of her losing control? His treatment for Anna was to remove all memories of Elsa's magic. So he wanted Elsa to keep her powers a secret, at least from her sister. Also, the King discussed his plans to keep Elsa cut off from the world in earshot of Grand Pabbie. Grand Pabbie could have set the King straight right there, but he didn't. Either he didn't realize what Agdar was planning to do, or he agreed with him.
* I agree, King Agdar and Queen Idun respond by going to a very logical starting place. Their first instinct is, "We've got to minimize the number of people who have knowledge of Elsa's powers, and minimize Elsa's exposure to other people, especially Anna, until she learns to control her powers." Elsa losing control of her powers and the people turning against her is a pretty legitimate and very risky threat and, as the individual actions that the Duke of Weselton and Hans take during the main plot, one that almost happens for real when she's exposed. It just isn't the only problem. No one intends for Elsa to remain locked away living in fear and self loathing. That is Elsa's own doing, by misunderstanding herself and her powers and her parents dying before they really can figure things out. Agdar is even shown trying to help her contain her powers, but even ''he'' is eventually pushed away by Elsa.
** While Agdar and Idun take the logical first step, it is because of the rapid deterioration of Elsa's mental health, as a result of her horror and trauma from what happened to Anna, that that first step forward turns into a hundred steps backwards. They create a 'safe space' for Elsa to learn in; unfortunately for everyone else, Elsa barricades herself into that safe space, mentally and, as much as she can, physically.
*** This explains a lot of new subtext for "Do You Want To Build a Snowman," such as the "I'm scared! It's getting stronger!" scene: notice how Agdar tries to reach out to Elsa to comfort her, but her instinctive reaction is to back away, saying, "No! Don't touch me! Please. I don't want to hurt you!"

[[WMG:Oaken, the trading post owner, and the guy we see with his kids in the sauna are married.]]
Hoo-hoo! Hey Family!

[[WMG:Oaken is gay.]]
When he waves to his family in the spa, we get a quick shot of them waving back. Oaken's family seems to be comprised of a big blond guy who's a match for Oaken in size and assorted children and teenagers.
* Dey grow em big up dere doncha know. Could easily be his eldest son.
* Well we don't see a wife. And note that it isn't unusual for a family to go to the sauna all together in Scandinavia, both male and female members of the family (at least where this troper lives) so that isn't a definite reason for her not to be there. (Of course it could be that it was just too crowded in the sauna. It seems to be a large family.)
* There's plausible deniability in genetics; since Oaken is blonde (or at least dirty strawberry blonde), he can have a blonde kid (the large fellow) if the mother is brunette (with a blonde recessive gene - there is a smaller lady at the side of the tub who is a brunette). This leads to a fascinating WMG, which is that Disney put this in there to troll the inevitable culture-warriors with nothing better to do by putting a family in there that would cater to *any* interpretation, thematic, logical, scientific, or "I'm batshit desperate for copy and need talking points for Fox News by five this afternoon."

[[WMG:Oaken told Olaf about Summer]]
Oaken was making a huge fuss about his "Big Summer Blowout", and just absolutely needed to sell the idea to anybody. It could be possible that before meeting up with Anna and Kristoff, Olaf came across Oaken's trading post and Oaken told him all about the joys of Summer, but not about what heat does to snow. He was hoping to finally sell away his summer items, but couldn't since Olaf obviously doesn't have any money.

[[WMG:Oaken is a WMG/TimeLord.]]
Wandering Oaken's Trading Post and Sauna is his TARDIS!

[[WMG:Oaken has met Grand Pabbie in the past]]
He has some troll figurines on his counter. Also, he has two rock troll statues positioned on either side of his front door, like they're standing guard.

[[WMG:That cold medicine Oaken offers to Elsa in ''Frozen Fever'' is actually an opium derivative, possibly heroin.]]
This was surprisingly common and totally legal for proprietary medicines at the time ([[http://io9.com/how-todays-illegal-drugs-were-marketed-as-medicines-510258499 check out these adverts for heroin cough syrup]])- nobody thought of these drugs as particularly dangerous. Jennifer Lee does hint that it's a combination of the fever and her medicine that's making Elsa delirious. So it's obvious: Elsa is doped up on what the DEA today classifies as narcotics.


[[folder:''Frozen'' / ''Tangled'' Connections]]
[[WMG:''Frozen'' will subvert several ''Tangled'' plot lines and tropes.]]
* Zig-zagged. [[spoiler:Like Rapunzel, Anna is very naive, enlists an attractive loner to help her (with whom she falls in love), and talks in an anachronistic manner. However, her naiveté has harsher consequences.]]

[[WMG:Kristoff was robbed by [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Flynn]] and his gang, explaining why he hates people.]]
"People will beat you and curse you and cheat you!"

[[WMG:The King and Queen died en-route to the celebration of the return of Rapunzel seen at the end of ''Tangled'']]
Since Rapunzel and Eugene's appearances show that the two share a universe and the two had to travel there by ship, probably the King and Queen went to celebrate the return of Princess Rapunzel, but then got caught in a freak storm. The timeline certainly lines up: Elsa's coronation is when she turns twenty-one, three years after her parent's deaths. Assume that she and Rapunzel are the same age- Rapunzel returned to her rightful place at eighteen years old.

Also, "See you in two weeks."
* Pretty much confirmed.
** Link please?

[[WMG:The Queen of Corona and the Queen of Arendelle are sisters, and Rapunzel is Anna and Elsa's cousin.]]
Many have commented that the girls look similar. Some complained that this was laziness on the animators part, but since it takes place in the ''Tangled''-verse, it stands to reason that everyone is part of one big happy royal family.
* Given that this is clearly Europe, and how European royalty went, even if they're ''not'' sisters there is inevitably a tremendous degree of relation. They're just lucky that their physical trademark of royalty is prettier than a Habsburg Chin.

[[WMG: Alternatively, the Queen of Corona and the King of Arendelle are siblings]]
* As seen [[http://onaveridiansea.tumblr.com/post/75195702295/alittlebitofdisneymagic-mystical-flute here]].

[[WMG:Alternatively alternatively, both parents are related to Rapunzel's parents]]
* It's 19th century monarchy in the Germanic-language speaking part of Europe, in real life a lot of the royalty of that region were related multiple times.

[[WMG:Alternatively, for those bothered by the fact that ''Tangled'' is set in the late 18th century and ''Frozen'' mostly in the mid-19th century... Rapunzel is Anna and Elsa's grandmother]]
The Queen looks very like Rapunzel and, given she looks quite young when the girls are teenagers (if she gave birth to Elsa in her late teens- quite feasible in that class at that time- she's in her mid to late-thirties when she dies) she'd be born in about the first decade of the 19th century- now, that's a while after ''Tangled'' but Rapunzel is only 18 when she is discovered, and Flynn vaguely suggests it was a while before they married- if that's in the 1780s she'd still be able to have a child 20 years later- Idunn. (Presumably that means the couple we see in the cameo ''are'' Anna's cousins but they're actually siblings and are Rapunzel and Eugene's IdenticalGrandson and granddaughter.)
* Even though the creators of ''Tangled'' initially said it takes place in the late 18th-century, the presence of books such as ''The Little Mermaid'' actually do suggest that the movie takes place more in the timeline of ''Frozen''. So maybe that initial 1700's time-period statement has been {{Retconned}}?

[[WMG:Because of Rapunzel and Eugene's cameo during the coronation this will lead too....]]
An Avengers style cross over where Snow White assembles Belle, Elsa, Cinderella, Merida, Princess Aurora, and Ariel to fight against some insidious threat.

[[WMG:''Frozen'' and ''Tangled'' occur in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'']]
They all take place in fairytale-type settings filled with mythical creatures and magic spells. How cool would that be?

[[WMG:This universe's version of the Hapsburg Lip is the condition known as Anime Eyes.]]
The girls' eyes are larger than normal and spaced far apart. They are also royalty, and Rapunzel and their mothers share the trait. No other human character, not even Kristoff, seems to have this trait. It's a good thing we consider it attractive rather than, well, what the Habsburg Lip looks like.

[[folder:The Original Tale]]
[[WMG: ''Frozen'' is set after the events of "The Snow Queen"]]
In the script, a pair of characters named Gerda and Kai are prominent members of the royal court. It could very well be they decided to live with their friends the Princess and Prince (now the rulers of Arendelle) of the original story at some point, only for history to repeat itself in a new generation.
* Addition to this:
** Gerda and Kai took it upon themselves to look after Elsa and Anna after the King and Queen drowned.
*** Actually Kai is visible in the background of a shot just before the King and Queen's deaths. But he could have been hired ''because'' he'd met an ice-witch before and so he and his wife Gerda were in the family's confidence about Elsa's condition. He certainly seems to have a broad and flexible brief (though this might just be because there are so few staff).
** Bae (the reindeer who took Gerda to the Snow Queen's palace) is Sven's father.
** The evil troll who made the magic mirror is an outcast from the troll group after using evil magic (probably as a result of a DealWithTheDevil, one version of the original tale has the mirror been made by the Devil). Which would explain why they seem to know a lot about Elsa's powers. The grandfather troll could even be the evil troll's brother.
*** Related to this, the troll was the one who gave Elsa's power, but unintentionally. The troll originally meant to use a spell on Gerda and Kai, but the Prince and Princess got in the way, and somehow gave Elsa her abilities.

[[WMG:''Frozen'' is happening simultaneously with a version of the original ''Snow Queen'' story.]]
In the original, Kai is affected by the mirror's shards and given a task by the Snow Queen, who promises to 'make him his own master' and 'give him the world,' both of which seem like just the kind of thing Hans is after. The Snow Queen made him the same promise, ''sans'' the fairytale's skates, but instead of solving a puzzle, Hans was tasked with killing Elsa: The Snow Queen could sense Elsa's power and didn't want such a powerful rival, but was barred from acting directly due to her status as a supernatural (not human-with-magic) being, plus she likely didn't want to risk herself. Since Hans failed, of course, the Snow Queen has probably lost interest in him, though that might not stop her from trying again.

[[WMG:The story of "Literature/TheSnowQueen" will still take place, just differently now that Elsa is good.]]
If Elsa had remained in her ice palace, she would have become the Snow Queen from the story. Since she came back though, it will play out differently.

Kai and Gerda live somewhere on the outskirts of the kingdom, or in a neighboring kingdom. One day, the mysterious Snow Queen Elsa comes and takes Kai away. Gerda sees this happening but is too late to stop it, and nobody will tell her why this has happened. She comes to the conclusion that Queen Elsa must be evil and has kidnapped Kai, so she sets out to rescue him. Along the way she encounters the trolls, Olaf, Rapunzel and Flynn, and others who help her on her way. She eventually runs into Kristoff and Sven. Kristoff knows that Elsa isn't really evil, but plays along and brings Gerda to the palace anyway so she can find her friend. When they get there, Kai is there but he's acting cold and stoic instead of like a normal boy. It turns out that he was under some kind of wintery spell - maybe he developed the same powers as Elsa, maybe he got hit by a frost spell, maybe he got a shard of ice stuck in his heart - and Elsa took him away because she wanted to try and help him. Gerda's love and devotion ends up being the key to finally curing him, and they go home together.

[[WMG:A [[BadEnding bad end]] would result in "Literature/TheSnowQueen"]]
Distraught by her sister's death, Elsa locks herself away in her ice castle. Years later she takes a boy named Kai up there...
* Disturbingly likely. Loneliness can make people do terrible things.

[[WMG:''Frozen'' is the sequel to "Literature/TheSnowQueen".]]
The Greta and Kai extras are actually the Greta and Kai from the story, and the Queen of Arendelle is... somehow, the snow queen? But somehow stripped of her powers because they went into her firstborn. Or something.
* Alternatively, the King and Queen were the Prince and Princess from the original story. See the theory way above.

[[WMG: "The Snow Queen" story happened long ago, and it became a legend to the people of Arendelle.]]
Kai and Gerda were named after the two in the original legend, and the ice harvesters singing "Beware the frozen heart" could also be a reference to the mirror shards in the eye and heart that happened long ago, especially because some of those shard pieces could still be out there. It is also possible that due to the Snow Queen's influence, some people are born with ice powers as she was. Hence Elsa. Perhaps the legendary Snow Queen is still alive?

[[WMG: The Snow Queen was the ''previous'' child "born under an alignment of Saturn" as Elsa was, over 1000 years earlier.]]
Several millenniums difference is plenty of time to have the original story happen and it to become legend later, tying in with the above.

[[WMG: Story is result of manipulation of Snow Queen, one of TheOldGods of Arrendelle.]]
Snow Queen is either goddess, elemental or one of fair folk. When Christianity came-or maybe even Vikings, she could be one of remaining Jotun or EldritchAbomination- that was driven out, either because of [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly Gods Need Prayers Badly]], loss of source of her power, man's new ways to protect themselves from cold, fought off by new deities, bargained with them or she simply didn't care. However, after some time, new mortals got disrespectful. So, every 1000 years, WhenThePlanetsAlign she chooses a child, whom she curses/blesses-thank BlueAndOrangeMorality for that-to be her representative, her ChosenOne among men to remind them she is still out there and they better beware from upsetting her. Reason why she choose Elsa is because Kai-whom she once took in as child-worked there, and she wished to see him, and by way laid [[CursedWithAwesome curse]]/ [[BlessedWithSuck blessing]] on Elsa.

[[WMG: The Snow Queen had an army of snowmen resembling Marshmallow.]]
They were melted away when the Snow Queen was defeated.

[[folder: Other Disney Properties]]
[[WMG:[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel and Eric]] are the monarchs of the Southern Isles.]]
Let's say that the human city seen in ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' is Copenhagen (where Hans Christian Andersen lived, and which has a statue of the Little Mermaid in its harbor.) Copenhagen is located on the island of Zealand, part of the archipelago that makes up the eastern half of Denmark. Denmark is south of Norway, so the Danish Archipelago is the Southern Isles. (Presumably, in this universe Denmark became partitioned so that the Southern Isles and Jutland are separate countries.) And Hans has [[EvilRedhead red hair]], so either:
* He's Ariel and Eric's son, but why wouldn't he mention that he has [[Disney/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea one sister]] in addition to twelve brothers, unless it's because he's a sexist {{Jerkass}}? And what does it say about Ariel's parenting skills that he turned out to be a bad seed? Or --
** Maybe he did mention his older sister but Anna missed that because of the huge number of brothers, or he never got a chance to before Anna cut him off? It doesn't say anything about Ariel's parenting skills if a few of her kids turns out to be a bit jerky, since including Melody, there's 13 of them. Unlike Anna, he didn't take this in stride because he had several [[BigBrotherBully big brother bullies]]. If Ariel and Eric don't know their sons are tormenting one another, there's nothing they can do, and if Hans doesn't voice his bitterness, it just consumes him.
* He's Eric's youngest brother. He got his red hair from his mother, and Eric was attracted to Ariel because of LikeParentLikeSpouse.
* This is (somewhat) backed up by the fact that Ariel herself comes from a huge family of 7 sisters and comes from a place where huge families are commonplace (fish). She could very well have wanted a huge family herself. The only snare is that Melody would be significantly older than the oldest brother because she doesn't have any during her movie.
** Also that The Little Mermaid takes place about three centuries earlier.
*** Whoa. As soon as you look at Hans with the idea that there's a bit more fish in him than the average person... you can't un-see it...

[[WMG:Elsa knows of Ariel and Eric]]
''The Little Mermaid'' probably takes place 10 - 20 years before ''Frozen''.
* Both of these fairy tales (''Frozen'' and ''The Little Mermaid'') were written by Hans Christian Anderson, after all...
** Technically, Andersen didn't write ''Frozen'', he wrote ''The Snow Queen''. And despite the marketing, the two don't really have anything in common, beyond having a queen with winter powers, trolls, and a pair of siblings.
*** You sound like the person who told me on my RP blog I couldn't have two characters be cousins even though their stories take place around the same time, the characters are similar (even sharing a voice actress in the Disney adaptations), and the ''stories'' are even similar. Don't crush peoples' opinions based on superficial details. It's not like "The Little Mermaid" has a great deal in common with its source material either, seeing as Ariel doesn't get her tongue cut out nor does she die and turn to sea foam at the end, nor does it feel like she's walking on white hot knives every time she takes a step. As a WMG above states, this could be a prequel to the actual Snow Queen story (if Elsa grows as cold as her powers and lives a long time due to her powers). There's no reason Ariel and Eric can't be part of this universe if Rapunzel and Eugene are, especially since The Little Mermaid is also a HCA story like what Frozen is based on.
* Doesn't The Little Mermaid take place in the 1500's, while Frozen take's place in the 1800's? Then again, Elsa could know of them as distant ancestors...

[[WMG: Ariel and Eric ruled over what ''eventually became'' the kingdom of the Southern Isles.]]
Seeing as The Little Mermaid takes place about three centuries before Frozen, Ariel and Eric's kingdom expanded over the generations. It eventually led to The Southern Isles becoming a kingdom.

[[WMG: [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Atlantica]] is the sunken Jutland Peninsula.]]
The map seen in ''Disney/FrozenFever'' shows that the Southern Isles looks similar to Denmark if the Jutland Peninsula didn't exist. Maybe the merpeople sank the peninsula and turned it into their kingdom of Atlantica.

[[WMG: The next Disney Princess movie will include a mention of the "weird blizzard last July".]]
Just to tie it in with this movie like this one gets linked with ''Tangled''.

[[WMG:This movie takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles''.]]
* So Frozone's powers are magic-based?
* Alternatively, Elsa is the first [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender waterbender]]
** Or the last.

[[WMG:The movie was written to gel well with ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'']]
Hearts play a significant role (to the extent of true love being defined in terms of the heart rather than its own context as usual), villains are sufficiently minor and unrelated to events that Xehanort can be squeezed in into quite a large role with minor fuss, and the Anna/Elsa pair appears so startlingly similar to Sora/Riku that interacting with them may well serve a character development role for the latter pair by showing them where they/the other were/was pre-character development and that not having a 'Sora and Riku are split and each follow one sister for this world' would practically be a plot twist.\\
The similarity and fit seems too great to be an accident. Thus, it must be by design. They knew it'd show up eventually, so they made it work well for it.
* Corrupted!Elsa would make for an ''awesome'' boss battle.
** Or even just Ice Queen Elsa. She was quite unstable already, and then she went over the edge because of the assassination attempt. Besides, Beast was a boss fight in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' because of his Xaldin-induced freak-out.
** Hell, if Elsa mistakenly thinks Sora's going to pull a trick like [[spoiler:Hans's gold-digging]], she is ''not'' going to put up with anyone trying that on her kingdom or her sister. Heck, ''Anna'' could be a terrifying boss battle or the sisters as a DualBoss could also work.
*** Bonus points if Anna is weak to the Blizzard element, having been nearly killed by it twice.
*** Why go small? [[spoiler: Maleficent recruits Hans. Since Hans is a sociopath, he can control the Heartless with ease. And if we want to throw in ''Tangled'' as well, have Maleficent revive Gothel and Sora has to deal with both of them.]]
*** More bonus points if, during an Elsa boss fight, she has an attack that, if it hits Sora, doesn't actually do damage, but if Sora doesn't get healed within a few seconds, instant popsicle GameOver!
* A BossBattle against a Heartless manifested by Elsa's fears would be awesome!
* It's pretty much a shoo-in for ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'' at this point. There's two reasons why a ''Frozen'' world would be beneficial for both franchises:
** [[PanderingToTheBase Pandering to the Japanese fanbase]]. ''Frozen'' is enjoying ''Titanic''-like success in Japan, which is also ''Kingdom Hearts''' country of origin. This almost guarantees it a spot in the game.
** Helping to introduce more [[PeripheryDemographic male fans]] to ''Frozen''. Even if it's a CastFullOfPrettyBoys, an RPG video game has a much higher proportion of male fans than a Disney princess movie, so if Arendelle as a world is done awesomely then it'd succeed in winning them over.

[[WMG: If ''Frozen'' appears in ''Kingdom Hearts 3'' and D-links return from Birth by Sleep, Elsa will be one.]]
She'll basically grant every Ice ability in the game, with the "limit break" being, what else, "Let it go".

[[WMG:Likewise, we're going to see an alternate universe version of the sisters in ''Series/OnceUponATime''.]]
Elsa's abilities are ''very'' dangerous, and have the steep price tag of social isolation. Anna was saved by Troll magic, but at the cost of her memories. First rule of Horwitz and Kitiss's take on Disney canon? ''Magic'' '''always''' ''comes with a price.'' The feminist themes of ''Frozen'' [[spoiler:and Hans's ''nasty'' subversion of Disney Prince]] also would fit right into a universe where Alice is swinging a sword, Snow White is a deadly archer, Red Riding Hood is a werewolf, and the "wicked stepmother" is a deeply screwed up mess under all the grandstanding, murder, and sorcery.
* Status: [[IKnewIt CONFIRMED!!!]] Storybrooke, Maine is in for one nasty winter come Season 4
** Knowing the series Anna died and Elsa became closer to the Snow Queen of the book as a result.

[[WMG:If all the other Franchise/{{Disney Princess}}es had their own ElementalPowers...]]
(If anyone else has any ideas, please add them)
* Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}: ExtraOreDinary. Her connection with dwarves.
* Disney/{{Cinderella}}: More than one. BeastMaster, CastingaShadow (most of wonders happen to her at night and spell ends on midnight) or Light'emUp- because LightIsGood and magic in first film is associated with stars.
* [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Aurora]]: GreenThumb/FertileFeet.
* [[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Ariel]]: [[MakingASplash Water]] because she's a mermaid and her father is a powerful sea king.
* [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Belle]]: ?
Control over force-not Star Wars, but as in hit them extra strong.
* [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} Jasmine]]: [[DishingOutDirt Sand]] because of her movie's desert theme.
* Disney/{{Pocahontas}}: [[BlowYouAway Wind]] because of her free spirit and the [[DramaticWind wind motif]] throughout her movie.
* Disney/{{Mulan}}: [[ExtraOreDinary Metal]] or [[PlayingWithFire Fire]] to represent her role in the military.
* [[Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog Tiana]]: [[DishingOutDirt Earth]] because of her down-to-earth personality.
* [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]]: [[ThePowerOfTheSun Sun]], implied in the film itself with the sun flower.
* [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Merida]]: [[PlayingWithFire Fire]] because she's a rebellious FieryRedhead.
* [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Anna]]: [[PlayingWithFire Fire/Summer]] or [[GreenThumb Plants/Spring]] because of her warm personality and to contrast her sister's Ice/Winter powers.
* [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa]]: [[AnIcePerson Ice/Winter]]. Obviously.

[[WMG:Elsa and Anna's parents didn't die at sea...]]
This comes from ''[[WordOfGod the actual director]],'' [[http://didyouknowblog.com/post/127190544522/from-director-chris-buck-when-youre-working-on Chris Buck:]]
->"Of course Anna and Elsa’s parents didn’t die. Yes, there was a shipwreck, but they were at sea a little bit longer than we think they were because the mother was pregnant, and she gave birth on the boat, to a little boy. They get shipwrecked, and they end up in the jungle. They end up building a tree house and a leopard kills them, so their baby boy is raised by gorillas. So in my little head, Anna and Elsa’s brother is Tarzan... That’s my fun little world."

[[WMG: The trolls are related to [[Disney/{{Moana}} Te Fiti]].]]
Both are made of earth (rocks/land), and when they are asleep, they both look like the rocks or island that they are made of.


[[folder:Disney, the Polar Vortex and Reality]]
[[WMG:Disney has been pursuing a long-term strategy to sabotage Universal's chances of making ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' into a movie.]]
Universal bought the adaptation rights to ''Literature/{{Wicked}}'' and funded the production of the stage musical with the intent of making it into a film. It's taken them so long to do this that Disney has now co-opted the setting and timeframe of ''Wicked'' in ''Film/OzTheGreatAndPowerful'', and co-opted the plot, character arcs and star (IdinaMenzel) of ''Wicked'' in ''Frozen'', so if a ''Wicked'' movie does come out, audiences will feel like they've seen it all before.
** ''Film/{{Maleficent}}'' takes this further, co-opted the basic story idea of telling a famous tale from a villain's perspective and making the villain, who previously was unsympathetic, a misunderstood heroine. So now Disney has leveled a triple whammy against ''Wicked''; unfortunately for them, "Let it Go" increased Idina Menzel's popularity to the point where audiences crave more, and a ''Wicked'' film starring her could easily take advantage of that.

[[WMG:There is no coincidence that ''Frozen'' was released before the 2014 Arctic blast.]]
* Detailed [[https://www.facebook.com/Broadwayliveonline/photos/pb.369996206464747.-2207520000.1392577090./424455197685514/?type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-prn2%2Ft1%2F1506740_424455197685514_1669557351_n.jpg&size=564%2C960&fbid=424455197685514 here]].

[[WMG:''Frozen'' is meant to subtly encourage people to stop GlobalWarming.]]
* There's a long tradition in European-derived literature and thought of cold as evil and warm as good (for example, "cold-hearted" vs. "warm-hearted"), of which the villainous Snow Queen in the original story was an example. This makes sense for people who lived on a continent where nothing grew in the winter and the cold could be dangerous, but in the modern world, it can make it kind of strange to talk about warming temperatures and an end to winter as bad things. ''Frozen'' is an attempt to show that ice and winter can be beautiful and important if people can only accept them and realize their value. And instead of the antagonist Snow Queen, the cold is associated with the sympathetic and positive character of Elsa.

[[WMG: ArtImitatesLife]]
It takes inspiration from the actual princesses of Sweden, Victoria and Madeleine. Crown Princess Victoria, the eldest, had anorexia, and at age 20, the same age as Elsa, she left Sweden to get treatment. She then returned later, and resumed her princess duties. So, both Victoria and Elsa [[spoiler: had emotional problems they needed to resolve, left their kingdoms to recover, and returned later to resume their duties.]]

On the other hand, Madeline fell in love and married a foreign commoner Christopher O'Neill. As a Saami, Kristoff is technically a foreigner to Arendelle, and definitely a commoner; Christopher is born in England holds dual citizenship of US and UK and hence also a foreigner, refused the Swedish nationality and royal title when married the princess. And notice the similarity of their names yet?

[[WMG: Disney executives made a pact with Satan for this movie to have the success it has]]
Not that it doesn't deserve it, but damn this has achieved far more than even ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Also possibly as means to justify their decision to extinguish traditional animation. Because of this, all characters in the movie are doomed to go to Hell when they die.
* And when Elsa reaches the fiery gates, the time will finally come for Hell to literally freeze over!
** Except that the lowest level of Hell ''is'' frozen over.

[[WMG: Disney knew...]]
Disney used their psychic powers to see Winter Storm Titan before it happened. Knowing that it would increase viewership of a fitting movie, they made Frozen.

[[folder: Sequel]]
[[WMG: A possible sequel will deal with a fire princess and further play with Franchise/DisneyPrincess traditions]]
While Frozen deals with the horrific possibility of a princess becoming a villainous witch and Malevolence will go full cycle with it, it's foreshadowing about the ugly side of things in the Disney Universe are starting to show up after so long.

Case in point, magic is seen as something evil by society which leads to isolation and madness of otherwise kind and pure hearted girls. Like many people here stated that Elsa could have become the Snow Queen or that she could use her powers to lay waste to other countries, there will be another powerful magical princess with pyrokinetic abilities being used for war and who Elsa as the protagonist must return to the light of reason.

Bonus points if said EvilCounterpart is voiced by Kristin Chenoweth.
* So Kristin Chenoweth voicing [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula.]]
* There may be not a fire princess, but a fire ''prince'' from some neighboring kingdom going on a conquest spree. His armies, clad in high quality steel and armed with deadly smoke spewing 'fire-arms', are unyielding, led by his blazing glory in person. Arendelle is next, and it's up to Elsa to stop him. Possible LoveInterest for her, possible evolution from EvilPrince or PrinceCharmless to a more likable person. Possibly a LoveTriangle for Elsa, though an inverted one compared to Anna's: politics will come before feelings. Possibly they'll balance out each other's ElementalPowers and eventually have an [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]] child. Er, scratch the last one. Possibly there'll be two weddings simultaneously: Elsa's pompous ceremony worthy of a PhysicalGoddess and Anna's modest but flowery one, foiling each other.
** Said neighboring kingdom will be a counterpart of Iceland with the castle set atop a volcano. Alternately, this kingdom could be another part of the Southern Isles, since Iceland was a part of Denmark.
*** Or that fire prince could be Hans. Given their history, lot of political bickering would occur between the Southern Isles and Arendelle, and anybody would expect a lot of initial angst and tension between him and Elsa, [[Franchise/MortalKombat similar to Liu Kang and Kitana]]. Then, Hans suddenly begins to have a [[PowerIncontinence superpower meltdown]] like Elsa, and a HeatWave occurs in the Southern Isles (just like the EndlessWinter caused by Elsa losing grip of her ice powers). Things could change a bit, especially if Elsa realizes what conditions he is currently in (aside from realizing that he too is a borderline PhysicalGod), and helps him control his powers. Meanwhile, the Duke overhears from his spies in the Southern Isles that Hans is a magician like Elsa and tries to have both of them killed, but is foiled. Upon hearing of the Duke's transgressions, both Arendelle and the Southern Isles place trade embargoes and economic sanctions on Weselton for attempting to meddle in their internal affairs, while Elsa and Hans reconcile with each other.
* One of the sequel books coming out next year, ''A Warm Welcome'', involves them traveling to a kingdom that has a Queen who has power over fire and heat, so... confirmed, just in a different sequel way?
** The Queen turns out to not have any special powers. She just rules a very hot island with a climate that varies between tropical and desert. They make friends with her anyway and open a trade agreement.

[[WMG: The sequel is going to be a massive CrisisCrossover]]
* Scotland is buried under an unnatural winter, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Princess Merida]] has to go on a quest to find out why. She visits a princess known to have experience with magic to ask for help. [[Disney/{{Tangled}} That princess]] doesn't know what to do, but she has a cousin who's particularly good with ice and snow... Cue Merida, Rapunzel and Elsa teaming up to restore the sun.

[[WMG: We will never see Hans again]]
Despite what a freaking awesome villain he is, we'll never see him again because he's just too DARK to come back. If there's a sequel we'll have to deal with a crappy villain like the Duke. And even if Hans does return, it won't be as somebody interesting; just a cackling maniac because the cat's out of the bag and he won't be able to pull off the hoax again.
* Or, he'll have to invent a new scheme similar to the one he uses in ''Series/OnceUponATime''.

[[WMG: The sequel will be a retelling of ''The Wild Swans'']]
* First, some backstory; Hans' mother was the second wife of King Bjorn of the Southern Isles, his first wife having died a year or so before. However, she was an evil witch who plotted to assassinate King Bjorn and his twelve older sons so that the infant Hans would be the nominal king, and she would rule as his dowager/regent. Her duplicity was revealed before any damage could be done, so King Bjorn dissolved the marriage and banished her forever. He did not blame the infant Hans for his mother's crimes, however some of Hans' older brothers did resent him because of his mother, and generally treated him like dirt. This resulted in his growing sociopathy, and prompted his attempt to secure his own kingdom by arranging for a convenient accident for Queen Elsa after becoming, in rapid succession, Anna's finance, her husband, and her widower. Bjorn's response to this development was to banish Hans from the Southern Isles forever.
* A little over a year after the events of the first movie, Elsa holds a ball to celebrate the impending marriage of Princess Anna and Royal Icemaster Kristoff. In a diplomatic gesture she invites the twelve princes of the Southern Isles to celebrate at a formal ball two weeks before the wedding. The party is in full swing, until Hans shows up uninvited. Having reunited with his witch mother during his exile, he learned the dark arts from his mom and was now planning revenge against both the Southern Isles and Arendelle. Casting a spell, he turns his older brothers into swans, and is about to run Anna through with his sword. The swans rescue Anna and carry her away. Anna convinces the swans to land near the home of the rock trolls, hoping that Grand-Pabbie can help break the spell. Grand-Pabbie informs Anna that only she, due to her loving heart and IncorruptiblePurePureness, can break the spell. She must gather nettles, extract the silk from them and weave them into garments. Once the swans don the magic garments the spell will be lifted and they will become human again. Oh, and during this whole thing she must remain silent. If she says a single word during this, the garments will be sundered and the swans will die. This leads to an interesting reversal; this time it's Anna who has to shut out Elsa without explaining why. The climax of the action involves Hans attempting to have Anna burned at the stake as a witch, while Elsa confronts Hans' witch mother and goes Fimbulvetr on her ass!
* That. Would. Be. AWESOME!

[[WMG: In the "redemption of Hans" story angle, the first of the heroes to reach out will be...]]
Olaf! Elsa and Kristoff don't know him, and, although Anna is an [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroine]], she was personally hurt by Hans and will have trouble accepting that he's more than a villain. Olaf, however, will want to learn Hans' side of the story and make friends with the prince, because that's just who he is. The snowman's kindness to the enemy will be what inspires the others to give Hans a chance.
* Maybe Olaf can be a [[ShipperOnDeck Helsa shipper]]!

[[WMG: Elsa will be the protagonist of the sequel.]]
She's clearly the big BreakoutCharacter anyway.

[[WMG: Anna will experience further CharacterDevelopment in the sequel.]]
Anna is pretty much an AffectionateParody of Disney Princesses. Her doomed romance with Hans showed the problems of FourthDateMarriage and LoveAtFirstSight, and she's certainly learned from it. In a sequel, another flaw in traditional Disney logic will be taken apart: BlackAndWhiteMorality. It can be said that Elsa was an exploration of this, but her morality was never ambiguous; the worst deliberate thing she did was cast off her responsibilities. Then there’s Hans, who has been confirmed as a TragicVillain. In a “Redemption of Hans storyline” Anna, in her innocence and heartbreak, will have a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of BlackAndWhiteInsanity, and initially see Hans as a [[RonTheDeathEater heartless monster beyond hope]]. Her [[AnAesop personal lesson]] will be existence of [[BlackAndGrayMorality grey]] [[GreyAndGrayMorality morality]], and that people are never just one thing.
* This could come into play if we’re introduced to Hans’ family and they turn out to be horrible as predicted. Growing up only knowing a sadly distant, but nonetheless loving family, it’s probable that Anna would have trouble wrapping her head around the idea of an [[AbusiveParents abusive]] [[BigBrotherBully one]], unless witnessing it firsthand.

[[WMG: The sequel will be based off of season 4 of Series/OnceUponATime.]]
They may find a way to execute this plot, just without the elements of the Enchanted Forest and Storybrooke. Some of the plot elements of the ''Once Upon a Time'' / ''Frozen'' crossover arc - Anna preparing to marry Kristoff, Anna and Elsa learning about their family's background, Hans being back for revenge, etc. - could somehow be incorporated if rewritten accordingly.
[[WMG: Going off the above, Elsa will meet the original Snow Queen.]]
This will result in either a rivalry between them if the Snow Queen is evil, or Elsa seeing the Snow Queen as a mother figure.

[[WMG: The next villain will be based on another story by Creator/HansChristianAndersen]]
Possibilities include:
* A LivingShadow or Elsa's ShadowArchetype (''Literature/TheShadow'')
* A sea witch (''Literature/TheLittleMermaid'')
* A man (possibly Hans) who gets his hand on a magic tinderbox that summons monsters (''Literature/TheTinderBox'')
* Someone who lost a family member during Elsa's winter (''Literature/TheLittleMatchGirl'')

[[WMG:The next villain be The Summer Witch with the garden from the original [[Literature/TheSnowQueen Snow Queen]] ]]
She'll kidnap Anna and it will be up to Elsa to rescue her, meeting a band of plucky side characters along the way.

[[WMG:Anna's ColorMotif will be changed from green to pink.]]
Not just because PrincessesPreferPink, but so green can be Kristoff's colour.
* Also, pink and green are colours commonly associated with Spring.

[[WMG:The sequel film will take place in the Southern Isles.]]
Let's say something bad happens in Arendelle, and the gang seeks out Grand Pabbie's advice. Pabbie tells them to seek out a MacGuffin, but warns them that it can only be found in the Southern Isles and that a "ruler with a frozen heart" will try to stop them. Elsa, Anna, Kristoff and Olaf will initially groan about this, remembering how a certain prince had tried to steal their throne earlier and automatically assume he's the "frozen-hearted ruler". But then, it becomes a new and exciting adventure for them, since they'll get to see the wealthiest but most mysterious of their trading partners, alongside learning more about the man who tried to seize their kingdom and his 12 older brothers.
Anna, Elsa, Kristoff, Sven and Olaf will go to the capital city, which looks like Copenhagen meets Paris, Rome, New York, London or Berlin in the 19th century. Just imagine these [[CountryMouse country kids]]' reaction to a huge, bustling metropolis! They would be impressed at the architecture and be awed by how the Southern Isles is far more prosperous and technologically advanced than either Arendelle or all the kingdoms they've visited so far (including those mentioned in ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'', the comics, or the ''Literature/AnnaAndElsa'' books), and [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil be baffled]] as to why Hans would want to seize control of another kingdom when his homeland is so wealthy and luxurious. They'll think that his people and family are [[StepfordSmiler warm and friendly]], despite what Hans did, combined with the Southern Islanders wanting to show that they're not like the idiot who sullied their kingdom's name. While visiting the Isles, they'd be impressed by Hans' BigFancyCastle, as from a distance, it looked like a black sea serpent that somehow flourishes in the harsh environment (although they would feel a bit scared by its structure and compare it to their BrightCastle or Elsa's IcePalace). And as far as Hans' family is concerned, they'll put up a good appearance to show that they're not like Hans (although Elsa and co. would feel a bit nervous of his father's intimidating appearance). Perhaps Anna might take an interest in one of his 12 older brothers (presumably Caleb, Rudi, Runo or Lars), leading Kristoff to feel a bit jealous about this. It's also possible that Anna, Elsa, Olaf and Kristoff will be given Hans' bedroom for temporary lodgings, as a way to rub it in Hans' face, while Sven stays at the royal stables.
As they visit the kingdom, they slowly realize [[EmpirewithADarkSecret not all is as it seems]] as the Isles has a really dark and grimy secret — it's actually an oppressive and totalitarian {{Dystopia}} led by an militaristic despot who rules it by force. [[{{Unperson}} Perhaps people that they saw earlier mysteriously vanish in the middle of the night]], while the gang later finds out that they're [[ForbiddenZone banned from entering certain areas of the kingdom or castle]], [[ParanoiaFuel which houses both corpses and prisoners]]. Once they witness the true nature of the regime and realize that the king is actually a profoundly violent man who rules in a cruel and draconian manner [[ParanoiaFuel as a brutal authoritarian and tyrannical dictator]], they would be really shocked and horrified at how he uses DisproportionateRetribution to torture his subjects, besides being outright neglectful towards his youngest son. Alternately, the crew could be disgusted at a scene where Hans' brothers viciously torment prisoners and subject them to Gulag-type conditions, or witness a scenario where Hans is abused and treated like a slave. At this point, serious drama occurs if Elsa and the gang give the king and his sons a KirkSummation for running an incredibly repressive and autocratic PoliceState, leading to King Westergaard exploding in anger and having them imprisoned by condemning them to death, which forces them to do an EnemyMine with Hans in order to take down the Southern Isles monarchy aka Hans's BigScrewedUpFamily. It's possible that Hans' father might be the BigBad of the sequel (as he was the GreaterScopeVillain of ''Frozen''), as he might try to prevent the heroes from getting said MacGuffin in their hands, since it's the big secret that's keeping him in power. If Hans is revealed to have a high rank within the Southern Isles armed forces, he could assist the crew by [[TheDogBitesBack starting a mutiny to get revenge on his abusive family]]. [[ProphecyTwist The gang also realizes that the true "ruler with a frozen heart" mentioned earlier in Pabbie's prophecy is not Hans, but actually his father]], who has a heart that's way too rotten and hollow to the core. King Westergaard hid this magical MacGuffin from outsiders, but once he realizes that Elsa and the gang are after said MacGuffin, [[VillainousBreakdown he becomes desperate to prevent anybody, including the Arendellers or Hans from taking it, and so, he corners the heroes]], but a large battle ensues and the king is overthrown and either [[DisneyVillainDeath falls to his death]] or is incapacitated, leading to a vacancy. Most of Hans' brothers, realizing what had happened, will either be too terrified to take the throne or want nothing to do with being a ruler after seeing it's more work than they thought (due to the fact that their father spoiled them too much). Lars might end up becoming the new king if Hans rejects it.
* The Arendellers' arrival in the capital at the beginning of the movie would be an ideal opportunity for a song like "One Short Day" from ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}''. They sing with its citizens how beautiful and amazing the city is and how happy they all are to be here, but like the Emerald City, the Southern Isles is actually a CrapsaccharineWorld with a lying, corrupt ruler.
* The urban environment would certainly be horrible and hostile for Kristoff, because of his wholly rustic lifestyle. Besides discomfort from the sheer culture shock, he would be looked down on and ridiculed by the wealthier residents for his humbleness and attachment to Sven, and is condescendingly assumed by the king to be Anna and Elsa's servant at best and a backwoods hick at worst. All this while Anna is unable to empathize with her boyfriend, as she, Olaf, and Elsa enjoy this thrilling, fascinating new world, putting a strain on their relationship. Right up until the glitter fades and [[EmpireWithADarkSecret the kingdom is revealed for]] [[CrapsackWorld the hellhole it is under King Westergaard]].
** It's possible that even Olaf, Elsa and Anna would feel a bit uncomfortable in an urban setting like Kristoff, given that Arendelle is more like a village or small town versus the modernized nature of Hans' homeland. And being that they're [[CountryMouse from a backwater country]] that's like a minor league team compared to the Southern Isles, which would be a big shot major league franchise, the four would have a TheCityVsTheCountry debate about this when they visit the kingdom, combined with a bit of culture shock. For example:
*** Being that Arendelle has a more rural feel to it, visiting a big city for the first time would make the gang feel a little disoriented.
*** The more advanced and prosperous lifestyle of the Southern Isles.
*** The castle's dark and gloomy interior. The gang would contrast it to Arendelle's BrightCastle.
*** Their militaristic culture — Anna, Kristoff and Elsa don't understand why there are soldiers everywhere, unaware that it's actually a notoriously repressive PoliceState.
*** Elsa and company will be a bit confused as to why the people always have smiles plastered on their faces. People here are actually {{Stepford Smiler}}s, more reluctant to criticize King Westergaard and truly fear earning his wrath in the form of either forced disappearances, execution or hard labor. They think of him as their GodEmperor, just as how North Korea's rulers are, and he uses his subjects' paranoia to maintain his iron-fisted grip on the kingdom. Curfews and restrictions against entering prohibited areas in the kingdom are imposed to quickly suppress any dissent against the king, [[FascistsBedTime requiring citizens to be indoors at certain times]] in order to prevent any unlawful assembly. AllCrimesAreEqual according to King Westergaard, and any crime, no matter how minor [[EvilIsPetty or petty]], [[DisproportionateRetribution must be punished disproportionately.]] {{Kangaroo Court}}s are used to throw dissenters into prison.
*** The Southern Isles' structured but stratified political and social structure, as well as the stricter legal system. It is more orderly like Singapore. Class distinctions are more apparent in the kingdom than in Arendelle, while the justice system is more brutal and harsh. The Arendellers are unaware that the king believes in SocialDarwinism as a way to run his kingdom.
** The thoughts our crew will have regarding the Southern Isles could serve as a {{Foreshadowing}} to the kingdom's dark secrets and the big adventure the Arendellers will face.
* Given that both Anna and Elsa grew up in a sadly distant but still loving family, it’s probable that they would have [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil trouble wrapping their head around the idea]] of [[AbusiveParents a stone-hearted man]] who runs his kingdom in a harsh manner while abusing his youngest son, unless witnessing it firsthand. The fact that Hans' family uses barbaric and inhuman practices such as slavery and violence to control their subjects would unnerve Elsa and the gang. They'd be left wondering, "What kind of people would stoop so extremely low to become amoral, totalitarian dictators while being corrupt and misogynistic?" And if the Southern Isles has colonies, King Westergaard would probably subject the natives to brutal conditions, [[MoralEventHorizon possibly committing genocidal campaigns or other atrocities to wipe them out]]. Any dissent against the regime is met with extreme force.
** During their imprisonment, the trio would be nauseated at how the king brutally abuses prisoners, and wonder how he can be so incredibly depraved towards others, including his own subjects, criminals and regime critics. Horrified at the macabre scene, it's possible the trio could stage a prison revolt and escape via this way.
* Realizing Hans' father is a ruthlessly evil tyrant who routinely kills people at the slightest provocation or disrespect, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff will be appalled that he chose to condemn Hans to hard labor not for attempted murder, but for disgracing the Westergaard name. And given that the Southern Isles is the Frozen equivalent of [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the Fire Nation,]] as both of them are [[TheEmpire absolute monarchies]] with prosperous economies and strong militaries, but whose rulers (Fire Lord Ozai, King Westergaard) are corrupt and dictatorial tyrants that beat up their sons for not following their orders, it really shows.
** Also, during the gang going through their EnemyMine moment with Hans after he unwittingly fell into a trap by his abusive brothers, but only to be saved by our heroes, he will be [[EvilCannotComprehendGood baffled]] as to why [[BigDamnHeroes they risked]] [[SaveTheVillain saving his sorry ass]] despite his crimes. The gang chews him out on this, stating that while they hate him for what he did, it's not that they would want to see him get killed, [[MurderByInaction as doing so]] would make them NotSoDifferent than him. They also state he should realize there's more to life than just being obsessed with ruling a kingdom or mindlessly following his father's cruel orders. This forces Hans to not only [[WasItReallyWorthIt wonder if the time he spent appeasing to the king was really worth it]], ''but also'' realize that his father is a profoundly selfish monster who will do anything to stay in power and cling on to the crown, even by lying or showing a total willingness to ruthlessly destroy any real or perceived threat, including ''[[OffingTheOffspring his own sons]]''. Plus, this makes him finally realize how his past experience has not only warped his mindset, it also caused him to become an enemy of the main characters.
* If Elsa is revealed to have directly executed the decision to send Hans back to his family, she will be [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified at herself]] and unsure of what to do next. As a sign that he is beginning to improve, Hans could comfort her by bluntly stating that it was his own murderous actions which got him sent back, and that she should not feel guilty for doing so, as she had no idea that his family was so messed up and dysfunctional in the first place. She will also sympathize and tell him that her experiences have taught her exiling oneself to self-loathing isn't the answer, so she thinks that Hans should go on a RedemptionQuest and is willing to help him. Hans will be skeptical about this, and bluntly assumes she's wasting her time as he's given up all hope. However, as they continue, Elsa will give him an ArmorPiercingQuestion that causes Hans to realize not all hope is lost. He begins to like Elsa, [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe since she's treating him with kindness in spite of his backstory]].
* Before leaving for the Southern Isles, it's possible that someone, presumably one of the dignitaries who may have visited the kingdom at some point, one of the princes whom Elsa danced in the books, or Queen Marisol if she decides to come to Arendelle, might warn the four of the kingdom's AwfulTruth, but the Arendellers will ignore it. Only during their adventure will they realize that King Westergaard is hiding a lot of skeletons in his closet.
** This could cement the king's status as TheDreaded EvilOverlord to everyone else, given how his kingdom is the most powerful and wealthiest of all.
* Given how the king and his sons are abusive towards their wives, they'll [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain express ignorant and misogynistic views of women ruling a kingdom]], and think Elsa and Anna should instead StayInTheKitchen and [[BabyFactory sire heirs to the throne]] instead of running a kingdom. [[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast They'll think that men would make better rulers than women, as they're purely driven by logic instead of emotions as the sisters are.]] Or, perhaps the king could make rude, insensitive and inappropriate remarks and insults about Anna's choice for a boyfriend, Kristoff's poverty or Elsa's powers, leading to the popular implication that some people still fear her or view her with great suspicion due to her ice magic. This would [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil outrage the Arendellers a bit]], wondering how he can cling on to outdated opinions despite his kingdom's highly advanced economy. For example:
*** King Westergaard [[EvilCannotComprehendGood will automatically assume that Kristoff]], due to his background as an ice harvester, is a SocialClimber who will become a GoldDigger if he marries Anna, and not because of the genuine feelings he has for her. Alternately, he'll call Kristoff undeserving of being Anna's boyfriend due to him not being royal blooded, or make insulting and snobbish remarks on his poverty, humility or attachment to Sven.
*** He could also call Elsa a witch who is unfit to rule a kingdom, relating to the theory that Arendelle is secretly feared and despised by its trade partners and neighbors for having a sorceress as its queen, and that others, like the Duke of Weselton or King Westergaard, hold prejudiced and contemptuous opinions of magic users like Elsa.
*** [[WhatDoesSheSeeInHim He might also ridicule Anna for her choice for a boyfriend]], telling that she deserves someone of equal footing, not some lowly peasant oaf like Kristoff. Or that he'll tell her that she and Elsa don't deserve to run a kingdom, stating that men like one of his sons should rule Arendelle instead (if he thinks women should StayInTheKitchen).
** If King Westergaard becomes the BigBad of the sequel, he'll be a ContrastingSequelAntagonist compared to his son, being what Hans [[ShadowArchetype almost became]]. Also, he'll be one of the more darker Disney villains, on par with [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Frollo]], [[Disney/TheLionKing Scar]] or [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Lotso the Hugging Bear]]. And should he realize that Hans has escaped to join the heroes, he might try to kill his own wife as a way to not only spite his own youngest son (given that he was his mother's favorite), but also to rub out any potential threats, real or perceived, to his power base.
*** So, King Westergaard is a potential CompleteMonster.
* While this is going on, the gang will learn a bit more about why Hans was neglected in the first place, and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone they begin to wonder if sending him back home was really a good idea]]. Maybe he manifested magical powers like Elsa at a young age, which caused his father to humiliate him for this reason. Knowing the full and deadly potential of Hans' magic, the king may have consulted with a sorcerer at some point, who transferred Hans' powers to the MacGuffin, but also left the king with a warning: a prophecy that "one of his 13 sons will betray him." [[EvilCannotComprehendGood Of course, the king believes]] the traitor is Hans due to his powers, kills the sorcerer, hides the MacGuffin away to prevent anybody from knowing about his secret, and as a result, [[TheParanoiac became increasingly suspicious of his sons and authoritarian in ruling his big kingdom and family]], alongside instigating the bullying of Hans. It's possible the MacGuffin Pabbie told the Arendellers about will be the key to unlocking Hans' powers, and although Hans plays an important part in ending his father's tyranny, it will ultimately be one of his twelve brothers who overthrows him for good in an interesting ProphecyTwist.
** Another way to make use of this ProphecyTwist: King Westergaard, having a murderous and genocidal hatred of magic users, wiped out an entire community of them. One of the dying sorcerers curses the king, stating that one of his 13 sons will betray him, and that one of them will also manifest magical powers. Of course, Hans was the only one to have magical powers, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood but the king, thinking the traitor is his youngest son]], obtains a MacGuffin he stole from the magicians, strips Hans of his magic, and hides it in a secret location known only to him. And as with the 1st version of the prophecy, he becomes increasingly suspicious of his sons, but allows them to bully Hans so they won't go after him.
*** And as far as the traitor son mentioned in the prophecy, it could be Lars, who isn't as obsessed with proving his worth as most of his brothers are.
** Potential powers Hans could manifest:
*** Many fanworks depict him having fire powers to counter Elsa's frost, despite not having them in canon.
*** RealityWarping. Hans is capable of bending reality, [[PowerIncontinence but this creates the risk for a bigger crisis]] than Elsa's EndlessWinter, and one that may have the potential to threaten all of reality should it go haywire. This could also imply that he might be a borderline PhysicalGod.
* A scene in the FinalBattle may involve the king giving the usual DisappointedInYou HannibalLecture ReasonYouSuckSpeech to Hans, to which Hans has had enough, CallsTheOldManOut for his atrocities and tells him that he doesn't deserve the respect. The king tries OffingTheOffspring for this, but Hans retaliates and gives him a severe NoHoldsBarredBeatdown for his abuses. Hans could also tell King Westergaard that his adventures with Elsa and company [[HeelRealization really made him realize]] that his father's harsh methods of ruling -- lying on a whim, beating up and tormenting people, abusing the power of authority -- was morally wrong from the beginning ''and'' that his [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain journey to earn his family's respect was self-destructive.]] He then contemplates killing his father, but is stopped when someone, perhaps Lars or Elsa, tells him that he is NotWorthKilling. They also tell him [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim that while he had it coming, killing him would make Hans the perfect son his father always wanted]], and so, Hans simply backs out of this.
* Another scene in the sequel shows Elsa, Anna, Olaf, and Kristoff talking about the Southern Isles once they realize the CrapsackWorld it truly is: while it may be far more prosperous and technologically advanced than Arendelle, the only things lacking there are friendship and compassion, as it's a {{Dystopia}} with everything being hollow. Its people are {{Stepford Smiler}}s, but its ruler is a sociopathic man [[EvilCannotComprehendGood who doesn't understand empathy.]] His wrath knowing no bounds, King Westergaard only cares for himself and is "frozen-hearted". Concepts such as mercy, love or loyalty don't register in his head, as he often expressed distaste for such virtues. And since he expresses ignorant opinions on women, they'll wonder how people like him can be morally bankrupt and cling on to outdated views despite ruling a highly prosperous and modernized economy. According to them, the Southern Isles is a land of contradictions: its economy is booming, yet everything is barren; the people are always smiling, [[StepfordSmiler but they're empty]]; the king is powerful, but he is stone-hearted.
** To rationalize the king's temperament, [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil Olaf, Elsa, Anna and Kristoff might think]] he has a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans mentioning in passing that his paternal ancestors were unbearable. It strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as Hans, with help from the crew, manages to overcome his past traumas, but the king is way past the point of redemption. Conversely, the king might have no excuse, or the excuse he gave was a flimsy one at best. If Anna, Kristoff and Elsa ask why he is so cruel and how could this justify his abusive rule, he might just admit that he actually had loving parents who spoiled him and he decided he wanted a better life because of his bloated ego, [[SocialClimber and so, he betrayed everyone he knew, including his parents and siblings, and manipulated his way to being a ruler]] [[ItsAllAboutMe so he can have the riches and power he thinks he deserves]], and is still willing to cling on to the crown by all means necessary. [[DisappointedByTheMotive Hans will be more than upset over this]], stating that while what he did in Arendelle was terrible and inexcusable, he tried to justify it as him trying to escape his pathetic excuse for a family and did really want to be TheGoodKing, combined with being angry that his mother was killed just to spite Hans out of pure malice and hatred.
* After the FinalBattle, King Westergaard might give Elsa, Anna and Kristoff a HannibalLecture on how their [[VirtueIsWeakness kindness and morals]] have made them soft and weak in ruling Arendelle, or [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForEvil that they could have thought of conquering countries like he did]], only for the Arendellers to fire back and give a WorldOfCardboardSpeech to the king, stating how their adventure have helped them to overcome their flaws (Elsa's insecurity and selflessness, Kristoff's stubbornness, Olaf's recklessness and Anna's naiveté), and a ShutUpHannibal speech on how his wanton violence and greed has caused the suffering and hurt of countless others, including that of his subjects, youngest son, families and neighbors, combined with them telling that a king and his crown should be a symbol of hope and prosperity, not one of tyranny and oppression. The four also tell King Westergaard that he is ''truly the only person'' around with an icy-cold, "frozen heart." Hans corrects them, saying that while frozen hearts ''[[HeelFaceTurn can have the potential to be thawed]]'', [[EveryoneHasStandards his father can't be redeemed as his heart is way too stone-cold, too dark, and too hollow to the core]]. The king, [[VillainousBreakdown enraged by this, has a villainous second wind and tries to attack the his youngest son]], but Lars pulls a BigDamnHeroes moment and knocks the king out, causing him to lose his balance and fall to his DisneyVillainDeath, [[KarmicDeath thus finally ending the tyrant's reign of terror against everyone for good]].
* Having found the MacGuffin, the crew gives it to Hans, as he realized that this was the true source of everybody's troubles, breaks it open, and finally regains the magical powers he was stripped of by his father when he was a child.
* At the end of the sequel, there could be a AndThereWasMuchRejoicing scene, as the populace, free of King Westergaard's tyranny, hail Lars and Hans as the heroes who overthrew their ArchnemesisDad, and encourage the two to lead the kingdom towards a path of prosperity and freedom. Hans, after much CharacterDevelopment and his adventures with Elsa and company, realizes he didn't want the crown, and so, he urges Lars to become the new King of the Southern Isles, given that he wasn't as obsessed with proving his worth to their father, unlike their brothers. In a CMOH, Hans also reconciles with the other eleven, [[HeelRealization as they also realize]] their father's SocialDarwinist mindset and indoctrination was morally ''and'' fundamentally wrong from the get-go.
* [[TheStinger A few months after the events of the movie]], a wedding ceremony takes place, with Kristoff and Anna marrying after spending some time dating. Hans has not only reconciled with the crew, but also his brothers, who also attend the ceremony. At the same time, it's shown that he's now in a relationship with Elsa, and everybody implores him to marry her. At first, Hans is a bit reluctant about this, given what happened, but he changes his mind and Elsa accepts his proposal, in a scene that's reminiscent of how he first proposed to Anna at the end of "Love is an Open Door", and implying that their ceremony would be worthy of {{Physical God}}s.

[[WMG:An EvilCounterpart race to the Trolls will be major antagonists.]]
Trolls are huge in Scandinavian folklore, so naturally they appeared in the Norwegian set Frozen. The sequel will feature another popular species from the Norse myths: Dwarves. Not the ''Disney/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'' or the [[Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium Tolkien]] varieties, but the olden variety, also known under the name "dark elves". Associated with the Earth, darkness, and death, these dwarves look like ghouls, have jet-black skin (or [[UndeathlyPallor white]],) are old men by age ten, and live underground because [[WeakenedByTheLight sunlight harms them in someway]]. In contrast to the helpful and extremely friendly trolls personalty wise, dwarves, no matter the material, are always cranky, distrustful of other races, and go to great lengths for revenge.
* Dwarves were revered by humans and the gods for their craftsmanship, so maybe they are the creators of the Evil Mirror from the original tale. Sometimes dwarves have mystical powers, either [[SizeShifter shrinking and growing]], [[InvisibilityCloak turning invisible with magic helmets or capes]], [[{{Intangibility}} moving through solid earth]], or [[ComboPlatterPowers all of the above]].

[[WMG: A sequel plot will be inspired by ''[[Literature/TheTwelveDancingPrincesses The Twelve Dancing Princesses]]''.]]
Except gender flipped with Hans and his twelve brothers.

[[WMG:The subplot will be about Anna and Kristoff's relationship being on the rocks.]]
It all starts with TheILoveYouStigma, provided by ''Frozen Fever''. Anna starts to worry that she only loves Kristoff as a friend and she's just looking for [[LovingAShadow her storybook romance again]], while Kristoff wrestles between his feelings for Anna and the fact that he doesn't want to trade his simple life for the world of aristocracy. Throw in some poor communication skills, and you've got a classic B-plot. Of course, the two lovesick fools figure it out in the end.

[[WMG:The reason for Elsa's powers will finally be explained in-universe]]
The official [[WordOfGod word of Jennifer Lee]] of how Elsa got her powers may satisfy for now, but it probably could risk getting jossed.

[[WMG:Hans will have a love interest who tries to redeem him...and fails.]]
Just as ''Frozen'' was centered on subverting the PrinceCharming and LoveAtFirstSight tropes, ''Frozen 2'' will subvert another common fairy tale trope: [[LoveRedeems Beauty and the Beast]]. Hans will meet a woman who is aware of his past but will be confident that she can "fix" him with love. Hans will use this to manipulate her somehow into escaping the Southern Isles and getting revenge against Elsa and Anna.
* Touched on in the original movie when the trolls say to Anna "We're not saying you can change him".
* Maybe a past friend who fell in love with Hans when they were young, but the two became separated as time went by. Years later, she tries to reconnect with him, but she's told about his crimes against Arendelle...and she refuses to believe it.

[[WMG:The sequel will be a TakeThat towards the DracoInLeatherPants treatment of Hans]]
Similar to the above, except instead of ''one'' girl falling in love with Hans, several young women will write love letters to him while he's in prison. Eventually, they will form a movement to get Hans out of prison, similar to what fans of Aurora shooter James Holmes are still trying to do. Naturally, Hans will take [[TheChessmaster full advantage]] of this, and find some means of communicating with his fanbase so he can get at Anna and Elsa while still in prison.

[[WMG:Hans will find out about a flame queen in a distant land]]
He will pull a few strings, and get a message out to the flame queen asking for help, claiming that he was wrongfully imprisoned by a tyrannical ruler. Hans will then formulate a BatmanGambit to transform the benevolent flame queen into an InspectorJavert bent on bringing what she thinks is an evil tyrant to justice by any means necessary.

[[WMG: Hans will return, hoping to be forgiven, but isn't]]
About a year or so after the events of the first film, Elsa throws a grand ball celebrating the marriage of Anna and Kristoff. At the reception, Hans shows up uninvited, asking for the royal family to forgive him, but Elsa, not trusting him due to his past deeds, throws him out of her kingdom, threatening to have him arrested for treason if he ever shows up again. Bitter, Hans concocts a revenge scheme...

[[WMG: The sequel will involve a war between Arendelle and the Southern Isles.]]
Elsa, infuriated by Hans' actions, loses her cool and leads the Arendellian armed forces against the Southern Isles. She soon finds [[BatmanGambit that this is what Hans' brothers counted on]], and that Hans was sent as an assassin to off the Arendelle royalty and take over the kingdom to use as another stepping stone for their empire. It's highly likely that Hans' brothers may have used his knowledge of Elsa's powers to craft a plan in defeating her.
Additionally, Kristoff, Anna and Elsa realize they're woefully unprepared to face a dictatorial and warmongering regime harboring imperialistic ambitions, a history of brutally subjugating their colonies (including slavery and genocidal campaigns, both of which are considered to be crimes against humanity; such barbarianism would cause the three to be nauseated about this shocking discovery), and an extremely powerful and highly advanced military. They also realize that Arendelle had never been to war for centuries, so the three must find a way to rebuild their military, defeat the Southern Isles, and liberate the colonies and kingdoms in their grip.

[[WMG: If there is an evil magical queen in the sequel, her look will be based on [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/File:Concept_by_Bill_Schwab_2.jpg the original]] [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/0/0d/Frozen_Elsa_concept-early.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150430223557 design for Elsa]] [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Elsa_the_Snow_Queen/Gallery#Original_.22Bad_Elsa.22_Concept_art when she was still the bad guy]].]]
Because it would be cool and a nice continuity nod.

[[WMG: Hans will get redeemed in the sequel, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he's gonna have to work for it]].]]
Given that he's one of the most hated villains in Disney canon (even beating out people who have actually succeeded in killing someone), he's going to have to do a lot to prove to Anna and Elsa (and the audience) that he's worthy of a second chance. This will involve being the ButtMonkey of the group most of the time, getting picked on by all of Arendelle, almost suffering a HeelFaceDoorSlam, and a near HeroicSacrifice - and he probably still won't be entirely forgiven by the end. But he'll have earned his second chance and be allowed to stay in Arendelle and away from his abusive family, which will go a long way towards cementing his HeelFaceTurn in any future media.

[[WMG: Elsa will get some ShipTease in the sequel, but will not end up with a canon LoveInterest.]]
She will get moments with Hans and with a new female character (maybe the villain?), but she will not "end up" with either of them. So the people who want her to end up with Hans, the people who want her to not end up with Hans, the people who want her to end up with a girl, and the people who want her to stay single can all get something out of it and not be entirely disappointed.

[[WMG: Elsa's love interest will be put in mortal danger.]]
Elsa will try to use her magic to save said love interest only to fail (or at least believe she failed.) The result will be a SanitySlippageSong with a flavor similar to "No Good Deed" from {{Wicked}} just as "Let It Go" had a similar flavor to "Defying Gravity".

[[WMG:There will be a CallBack to Elsa's ice castle, but in a negative light.]]
Despite the structure's beauty and being the subject of a song about empowerment, Elsa's exile ultimately did nothing to improve her fear and anxiety. The castle was never true freedom, just a new place to run away and hide. By the time of the sequel, Elsa will have realized this, and own up to it.

[[WMG:Elsa and company will have to pursue an EnemyMine situation with Hans, even if they don't like it in the beginning.]]
Elsa, Anna, Kristoff, Sven and Olaf will have to deal with a problem that not only threatens Arendelle, but also the Southern Isles. So they go off to find a certain sideburns-sporting red-haired and green-eyed prince, who has been punished to work in the stables, and try to convince him - but he'll be [[GrumpyBear grouchy]], [[JerkAss rude]], [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids pessimistic]], [[VirtueIsWeakness and]] [[TheCynic cynical]] towards them at first - earning a SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers speech from the gang. After realizing that could be his big moment, it's possible that Hans will get a HeelRealization and slowly become more of an AntiVillain in the sequel, thus giving him a possible shot at his eventual HeelFaceTurn.

It's highly likely that the gang will understand a few facts about Hans in the process:
** Hans' DarkAndTroubledPast, which is what made him into the man he is today.
** Some fanfics expand on the possibility of Hans having fire powers, similar to Elsa carrying ice powers - this is why his family, apart from his mother and Lars, treated him so poorly.
** Elsa, Anna and the others would be baffled by the concept of an abusive family, and eventually realize why Hans became so cold-hearted in the first place - resulting in [[SympathyForTheDevil them pitying Hans]]. It's possible that [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech they could call his father and brothers out]] for their years of abuse and neglect towards Hans.
*** They could also learn a bit of the Southern Isles' history (or witness the true nature of the regime), and be really shocked and horrified at how Hans' father, an extremely stone-cold, ruthless and tyrannical dictator, [[DisproportionateRetribution uses violent and brutal methods]] to torture and execute prisoners, [[EvilDebtCollector regularly strong-arms villagers]] [[IntimidatingRevenueService for not paying taxes on time]] and [[DeadlyEuphemism silences any]] [[ImpliedDeathThreat critics of the regime]]. Serious drama could occur if either Elsa or Anna lose their temper at the king and his sons for running an exceptionally totalitarian PoliceState, leading to Hans's father throwing a fit and sentencing them to be executed, resulting in the gang and Hans having to take on the Southern Isles monarchy alongside the sequel's main antagonist.
** The trolls use his remaining love to give Hans a more positive outlook on life. Olaf, despite sharing the others' dislike of Hans, could also try to help the fallen prince to become more optimistic.

[[WMG:The Southern Isles will send Hans back to Arendelle to work as a servant as part of his punishment.]]
''Frozen Fever'' shows Hans shoveling manure at the royal stables as part of his penalty. Some of the fanfics show him working as an unpaid servant in Arendelle as punishment, and give him a shot at his HeelRealization and redemption. Also, FoeYayShipping between him and Elsa occurs, despite the fact Hans tried to murder her and Anna.

[[WMG:A voice actor from an adult cartoon will lend their voice to a character]]
A noticeable trend in animation aimed at families recently. [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Seth Mac Farlane]] played a mouse in SING!, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Trey Parker]] is playing a character in Despicable Me 3 and [[WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce Dave Willis]] uses the voice of Carl in Steven Universe. We might get one for fun.

* (For fun's sake, let's just imagine Justin Roiland reusing the voice of [[WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty Rick Sanchez]] (toned down for children of course) coming out of a sidekick character for Hans and he's playing a {{Foil}} to Olaf. As in smart but snarky, rude, disrespectful and makes jokes at others expense... so, Rick for a younger audience. Like how Uncle Andy was Carl for younger audiences.)

[[WMG: Many aspects of the first film will be featured OnceMoreWithClarity]]
What's known about the sequel so far is that it "You understand things better in the first movie after you've seen the sequel." Questions, certain plot holes, characterization...
* The origin of Elsa's powers and how she can create snow life, along with revealing her depression to others. Plus, if there's anybody out there who have hidden their magical powers out of fear of being labeled as outcasts.
* Why the Duke of Weselton is so against magic and why he was eager for Elsa to die. The book ''Across The Sea'' shows he has family, and he is in someway grateful when Elsa ends the heat wave, so he'd realize Elsa isn't a monster should he try to make amends.
* Hans' backstory, showing how abusive his brothers were and how neglectful and unfeeling his father is, possibly though his good brother Lars. This causes Elsa to have a slight MyGodWhatHaveIDone when she realizes she sent Hans to a FateWorseThanDeath. It's not enough to forgive him, but she realizes why he's such a messed up person and consider helping him reform. Should this happen, the sequel can add the popular theory on [[spoiler:Elsa knowing Hans was about to kill her]], admitting she felt she deserved her fate and that's why she didn't react until Anna stepped in. Should this happen, it will cause Hans to start his HeelRealization.

[[WMG:Elsa will [[BroughtDownToNormal temporarily lose her powers]].]]
The main antagonist is someone who could be easy outmatched by the Snow Queen, so they take precautions and drain the magic out of her. As proof, Elsa's hair will change from platinum blonde to her mother's brunette. Initially, this seems like a blessing. She can finally be as emotional as she wants without indoor blizzards! However, the power has dominated her entire life, for better or worse. If she's not the Snow Queen, who is she? Relief gives way to powerlessness and more anxiety than ever. If there is also danger coming from political enemies, like the Duke of Weselton or Hans' family, they see this development as a chance to take advantage because there is no threat of being turned into an ice statue when they step out of line. Of course, Elsa manages to rediscover the strength and ingenuity with her friends to save the day, and has the magic returned to her. This comes with AnAesop that "Elsa" is more than "Snow" and "Queen."
* Stealing her powers would take away the "Snow" part of her identity, but one way for Elsa to lose "Queen" is for normalization to happen in a country other than Arendelle, and people there doubt that Elsa is the "real" Queen Elsa as she lacks her ice magic and blonde hair.

[[WMG:If Hans does a HeelFaceTurn, Elsa will invite him into Arendelle's royal court.]]
Elsa is unversed in the more underhanded side of ruling a kingdom, but Hans is clearly both well educated and StreetSmart, and the Queen realizes that her new friend/significant other can be valuable as an advisor. Although Hans doesn't become an all-powerful king, he gets to leave the Southern Isles behind, and he is respected and listened to, earning a balance of what he deserves and what he dreams of.
* Working for Elsa can jokingly be referred to as a "punishment" for Hans' attempted regicide, like calling his position community service.

[[WMG: Hans and Elsa bond when both of them realize [[CommonalityConnection they have more in common than they realize]], namely suffering depression.]]
WordOfGod confirms Elsa suffers from depression and anxiety, while ''A Frozen Heart'' shows that Hans himself may suffer from them as well. At first, the two have no desire to be around the other, similar to [[Film/JamesBond James Bond and]] [[Film/{{Spectre}} Madeleine Swann]], but both end up in a situation comes where Hans is unable to contain his issues anymore and breaks down. After some time, Elsa realizes he's not faking anything, slowly realizing [[JerkassWoobie what kind of life he lives]] and consider that instead of punishment, Hans needs someone to actually help him realize he wasted his life on people who never cared for him and set out to make amends with actually decent people.

[[WMG: The King of the Southern Isles will be the BigBad in the sequel]]
Considering what little we know of him in ''A Frozen Heart'' and the fact that he was the GreaterScopeVillain of ''Frozen'', if Hans does return, his father will play a more direct role than in the first movie, as the abuse Hans gets is similar to how [[ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} Darkseid abuses his son Kalibak]] or how [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Fire Lord Ozai treats his son Prince Zuko]]. After realizing that King Westergaard is an extremely violent and tyrannical man who reacts violently against any criticism levied on him, Olaf, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff will be utterly disgusted with how he cruelly treats people and that he chose to condemn Hans to hard labor not for attempted murder, but for disgracing the Westergaard name. Horrified and shocked by the remorseless sadism they witnessed in his father, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone they start to question if sending Hans home was a good idea]]. Furthermore, with what's happened since ''Frozen'', and considering the above theory that the King is not of royal lineage, he might have [[SocialClimber cheated and killed his way to the top]] and maybe go so far as to kill the Queen because she's not useful anymore. Thus, he'd be a ContrastingSequelAntagonist compared to his son, being what Hans almost became. And if he does [[MoralEventHorizon cross the line by killing his own wife]], he will be seen as a BrokenPedestal, with [[HeelRealization Hans not only wondering]] [[WasItReallyWorthIt if all the time he spent appeasing to his father was really worth the effort]], but also getting the harsh realization that his dad is a [[TheSociopath totally sociopathic and remorseless monster]] [[ItsAllAboutMe who cares only for himself]] and will do anything to stay on top, even showing a total willingness to ruthlessly rub out any real or perceived threats to his power, including Elsa, Anna, [[OffingTheOffspring or even his own sons]].
On top of that, the Arendellers would have a [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil hard time understanding]] some of the King's traits:
# The idea that anybody can show an extremely terrible capacity to kill their own family when [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness they're no longer useful to them]].
# Using outright brute force to control and beat his subjects into total submission, whether via political repression, forced disappearances, censorship or extremely high taxes.
# If the Southern Isles has colonies, the king would probably subject the natives to genocidal campaigns or slavery to wipe them out.
# Lying and manipulating others in order to stay in power, combined with killing or torturing those who dare to question his authority.
# Believing that [[TheSocialDarwinist only the fittest survive]] and enforcing this warped worldview on his thirteen sons.
# Expressing [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain ignorant, outdated and misogynistic views]], given that he [[DomesticAbuse abuses his wife]], compares her to a TrophySpouse whose role is to provide more heirs, and thinks that women such as Elsa or Anna should StayInTheKitchen instead of ruling a kingdom. He'll think that men like him or his sons would make better rulers than Anna or Elsa, as they're purely driven by logic instead of emotions as the Arendellers are.
And if Hans does perform a HeelFaceTurn, he will help Anna and Elsa, defying his father. When his father gives him the usual DisappointedInYou TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, Hans has had enough simply stands up and [[CallingTheOldManOut calls him out for all the horrible things he does and tells him that he deserves no respect]]. The king tries to kill him for this and calls him for being too soft like his mother, but Hans retaliates and contemplates killing him, but only stops when someone, probably either Lars, Anna or Elsa, tells him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters that while his father had it coming, murdering someone out of hatred would make Hans the ideal son]]. Because he no longer wants to be TheDutifulSon for his father, Hans listens to them and backs out. And when King Westergaard gives the Arendellers a HannibalLecture for being too soft and weak in ruling their kingdom, Kristoff, Anna and Elsa [[KirkSummation fire back and call him out for his abuses and the brutal manner in which he runs the Southern Isles]], telling that he is ''truly the only person'' around with an icy-cold, "frozen heart". Hans corrects them, saying that while a frozen heart ''[[HeelFaceTurn can be thawed]]'', [[EveryoneHasStandards his father is way past the point of redemption as his heart is way too dark, hollow and rotten to the core]].
A scene in the sequel shows Elsa and company talking about the Southern Isles: while it may be far more powerful, technologically advanced and wealthier than Arendelle or the kingdoms they've visited so far, the only thing lacking there is friendship and compassion, as it's a dystopia with everything being shallow, barren, and cold. Its people are {{Stepford Smiler}}s, but its king is a very corrupt and dictatorial man who rules with an iron fist [[EvilCannotComprehendGood yet doesn't understand mercy]]. His wrath knowing no bounds, King Westergaard only cared for himself and is "frozen-hearted" and cold-blooded. Concepts such as mercy, love or loyalty don't register in his head, as he often despised such virtues.
* There could be hints that the King has a FreudianExcuse, such as Hans mentioning in passing that his paternal grandparents are unbearable. It strengthens Hans and his father as {{Foil}}s to each other, as Hans, with help from others, manages to overcome his past traumas, but the King is much too far gone to.
* Conversely, it might end up the King has no excuse. If he's asked why he is the way it is, he might just admit that he actually had loving parents who spoiled him and he decided he wanted a better life because of his ego, [[SocialClimber so he betrayed everyone he knew and manipulated his way to being a ruler]] [[ItsAllAboutMe so he can have the riches and power he thinks he deserves]]. [[DisappointedByTheMotive Hans will be more than upset over this]], stating that while what he did in Arendelle was terrible and inexcusable, he tried to justify it as him trying to escape a terrible family and did really want to be TheGoodKing.

[[WMG: Hans will be so overworked, his reunion with the sisters will actually be comical.]]
For whatever reason they come to the Southern Isles, they will decide to visit the royal stables so that Sven will have a place to sleep. There they find Hans, passed out from exhaustion. At first, because he's so overworked he thinks he's hallucinating and at first, bluntly ignores them. During this, Anna tries to talk down to him, making it clear he has no control over her, but he just passes it off. [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} He starts to have fun with it]], admitting he liked Anna's SkunkStripe and that he thinks Elsa is "kinda hot" to them, leaving them baffled (and in Elsa's case, uncomfortable). When he sees Olaf, he thinks this confirms it's all in his head and starts laughing his head off. He ends up saying something rude, causing Olaf to throw a piece of coal at him. Hans snaps at him, but after a few seconds he registers that a hallucination shouldn't hurt. After a few seconds of staring at the coal, he gives it back to Olaf, then poking him and the others to confirm they're real. Elsa grabs his finger and covers it in show, making him realize they aren't hallucinations. The situation actually gets serious for a moment as Hans panics at this realization. It becomes comical again when Anna points out Hans admitted to being attracted to Elsa, and she found that bit ActuallyPrettyFunny. Hans is outright embarrassed as he does a FacePalm, but Elsa is so awkward and unsure how to react to this that she has them swear [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain never to bring it up again]]. And Hans agrees with her on this.

[[WMG: There will be a new magical aspect introduced.]]
The books would tease the idea of something magical, only to reveal it is wasn't real (ghosts, fire magic, etc.). Some other kind of magic unrelated to Elsa's powers or the trolls will be introduced. If Hans returns, it might be associated with him or the Southern Isles. If the above idea of Hans thinking Anna and Elsa are hallucinations go, it's probably because he encountered this otherworldly magic in the form of some being, either someone AmbiguouslyHuman or something like a talking animal, and either it only occurs around him to the point of being MaybeMagicMaybeMundane (either its real or just in his head) or it eventually reveals itself to others, proving it was RealAfterAll. Either way, it will probably play a role in Hans potentially doing a HeelFaceTurn and aid the sisters.
* Alternately, these hallucinations could be fragments of Hans' mind coming out, and soon enough, he discovers that he has RealityWarping powers. However, this goes haywire when he accidentally loses control over it, creating a far bigger crisis than Elsa's EndlessWinter, one that has the potential to end all of reality if Hans loses total control over his powers. It's now the job of the sisters to help him.

[[WMG:A serious showdown between Hans and his father will occur in the sequel if he is redeemed.]]
As part of the theory that Hans' father will kill his wife during the sequel in order to stay in power, this may force Hans to realize if all the time he spent appeasing to the king was just a waste of time, alongside the harsh realization that his dad is a profoundly remorseless and evil man who would lie, manipulate and kill others, including his own family, in order to stay in power. Having realized the horrible man his father is, Hans first calls him out for the bad things he's done so far, but he won't have any and [[OffingTheOffspring tries to kill his youngest son]]. Hans retaliates by grabbing him by the collar and proceeding to brutally beat the crap out of him to near-death. He contemplates killing him, but only stops when either Anna or Elsa tell him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters that while it would end the king's reign (as he had it coming), Hans will finally be the son he always wanted him to be]]. Because he no longer wants to be the ideal son for his father, Hans listens to them and backs out. And as far as Hans' twelve older brothers are concerned, they immediately apologize to Hans for bullying him over the years, [[EvenEvilHasStandards and withdraw the support of their father]], realizing that he only cared for himself by killing their mother out of spite.
** Alternatively, Hans's brothers (except Lars, who leaves) immediately start fighting over the crown, and accidentally wipe themselves out in the process.

[[WMG: A showdown between the Arendellers and Hans' father might occur.]]
Apart from aiding Hans in his redemption in the above theories, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff will be utterly disgusted with how King Westergaard brutally treats people and that he chose to condemn Hans to hard labor not for attempted murder, but for disgracing the family name. Horrified and shocked by the display of utter cruelty they witnessed in Hans' father, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone they start to question if sending Hans home was a good idea]], combined with [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil having a hard time understanding the king's MO]] — killing people on a whim, lying to stay in power, believing that only the fittest survive, and forcing his family to emulate them. Serious drama could occur if the three call the king out for his abuse towards not just his youngest son, but also towards his own subjects.

[[WMG: Anna and Elsa will receive [[CerebusRetcon harsh criticism for their actions the first film]].]]
First, there is Elsa turning summer into winter for two days. A very popular belief is that she hasn't fully been forgiven by the kingdom, since such weather would have caused livestock and crops to die so soon, causing a brief economic crisis. Perhaps it turns out some of the citizens fear her or still think she's a monster.
Second, their decision to place an unilateral embargo on Weselton might end up causing more unrest. Not only would trade end, but travel to Weselton would end as well. Perhaps someone in Arendelle had relatives in Weselton who passed away but they were unable to see them in time or go to their funeral in time because travel there would take too long because of the severed ties. They would call their royalty out, saying the actions of one man shouldn't justify ending connections with a whole country or interfere with the lives of people who depend on Weselton for trade.
Third, sending Hans home. By the time the film starts, trade partners with the Southern Isles will be terrified of what's been happening in a place that would be treated in-universe like we would see someplace like North Korea, stating it all happened "a year ago". When they learn that's when Hans was sent back, they immediately think the sisters might have played a hand in the king's sudden increased wrath and they abruptly cut ties with Arendelle, bluntly stating they should never have sent him back to the man responsible for everything that's wrong with him. Anna, Elsa and Kristoff tell them they have no idea what Hans did, but these people would remain unsympathetic to them out of fear of facing King Westergaard's wrath, stating nothing anyone could ever do would justify sending them to the Southern Isles.
* Bonus points if some of these are characters introduced in comics and books like Marisol or the princes Elsa once had to dance with, giving them cameos but also establishing they're truly terrified of the king, warning the trio of the utter cruelty they personally witnessed in him and and to not underestimate how much of a grave threat he poses to others, as the Southern Isles is a highly dangerous and unstable regime waiting to erupt like a volcano any moment.

[[WMG: Hans has his HeelRealization.. and it hits him hard]]
Suppose he and Elsa do go through an EnemyMine scenario, Hans claims he's only trying to seek redemption. Elsa initially doesn't believe him but knows she needs his help. He eventually double-crosses her, saying he's only trying to redeem himself to his father, but when Elsa points out that his father doesn't love him, Hans snaps at her and leaves in a huff. He comes across a trap set by his family, revealing that his father lied about giving Hans a chance at redemption just to lure him to his death. Broken by this, Hans doesn't bother fighting back, [[BigDamnHeroes but is saved by Elsa of all people]]. [[EvilCannotComprehendGood He questions why she'd save his life]] after all he ever did to her and Elsa counters that while she does hate him for everything he's done, [[spoiler:including trying to kill her]], it's not enough to want to see him murdered. She tells him to leave and that she never wants to see him again. [[HeelRealization Alone, Hans tries to rationalize everything that's happened]], trying to find some way of thinking it through the way his father wants him to see things — how people use each other, only the fittest survive, and compassion is weakness — before finally realizing his father's twisted way of thinking, which he never liked in the first place, is morally and fundamentally wrong. He realizes that he's the villain of the story, that love is not a weakness as Anna and Elsa live far happier lives than him and he's become someone he never wanted to be and yet someone who has a valid reason for hating him saved him, and he breaks down as a result. Deciding to at least help Elsa one last time, Hans goes into self-imposed exile. Assuming there is new magic introduced, it will reveal to Elsa Hans's life before coming to Arendelle, revealing that he UsedToBeASweetKid and his father's treatment was pure evil. Hans tells her that he's not the Machiavellian mastermind everyone in Arendelle thinks he is, he's just too desperate for a better life, and that he resorted to his family's schemes, so as a result, he hates himself more than everyone else does. Elsa, actually having sympathy for him, suggests he can change. Hans counters he DID change, he used to be a good person, but he was so eager to be a good man with bad people than he became a bad man to good people, hurting civilians for his father and almost killing a good family to escape. He feels there is no redemption for him and that despite admitting he's sorry for what he did, there's no point seeking forgiveness when he feels he doesn't deserve it. Elsa tries one last time to help him reconsider, but he responds by asking if she could ever forgive him. Elsa, after trying to think it over, responds that she doesn't know. Hans muses that it's not what he wanted to hear but it's better than what he expected before deciding to continue his exile. And as a mirror to how in the film the perception of Hans's character changed when he betrays Anna, this would ultimately change how Elsa sees him, as she leaves she says he shouldn't give up hope, he counters "Oh, I already have". This time, instead of the old smug and sinister Hans, it's now replaced with a Hans that's now totally broken and weak.

[[WMG: The songs]]
As Frozen is a musical, so songs are free to guess on.
A song that recaps the first movie from the viewpoints of the sisters, Kristoff and Olaf. They sing of how things have changed for the better while [[DramaticIrony blissfully unaware of controversies]] and other ongoing events, such as growing civil unrest, criticism headed their way for their trade embargo on Weselton and their bilateral relations with the Southern Isles.
Anna and Elsa have a small duet, where they sing of how their lives have changed and how they've mended their close bond, yet while Anna thinks everything is great, it's clear when Elsa's alone that she hasn't forgiven herself for almost getting her little sister killed.
Let's say Kristoff, Anna and Elsa's next adventure takes them to the Southern Isles. Their arrival in the capital at the beginning of the movie would be an ideal opportunity for a song like "One Short Day" from ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}''. They sing with its citizens how beautiful and amazing the city is and how happy they all are to be here, combined with the denizens wanting to show that they're not like the dimwit who sullied their kingdom's name. But the visitors from Arendelle are totally unaware of the Southern Isles' [[EmpireWithADarkSecret grimy secret]] — it's actually a CrapsaccharineWorld with a lying, corrupt ruler, who uses torture and repression to keep his subjects in line.
Hans has a solo, something many suggested should he return. It would probably be seen as the antithesis to "Let It Go". Instead of singing on being free and running from problems, Hans would lament about how his life is worse than ever, how trapped and unhappy he is while [[NeverMyFault refusing to take responsibility for his crimes]], yet deep down [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's aware he might be wrong]]. Another way to echo back to "Let It Go", when Elsa looked at her glove, she got rid of it; when Hans does it, he looks at his scars, then he puts the glove back on in disgust and shame for what he did and what he's become. Perhaps the viewer can also see him manifest hidden magical powers, as shown in many fanfics.
The villain song. If Hans' father is the BigBad, the king will have a chance to sing. His song would probably be about [[{{Hypocrite}} how Hans is a disgrace to someone so "perfect and absolute"]] [[BlatantLies while blatant examples of his cruelty to people are shown.]] Like Hans in "Love is an Open Door", the king's greatness is fake, except far more so with his tone and expressions. It'll be more like "[[Disney/{{Tangled}} Mother Knows Best]]" or the first portion of "[[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Out There]]", where the respective villains Gothel and Frollo act like supporting parents while clear signs of their abuse and wickedness are shown towards Rapunzel and Quasimodo, respectively.
Either a reprise of the solo or a new song where Hans is alone. At first, the song sounds like a typical villain song, with Hans acting defiant but confused over events that have happened. He questions why things keep falling apart and why things never go his way, even questioning why the sisters of Arendelle are nothing like him and his family, yet live happier lives than them. He ultimately gives himself an ArmorPiercingQuestion making him realize... [[HeelRealization he's not the good person he used to be before he met them, but became just like the family he hated]]. The song stops sounding like a dastardly villain's music and begins to sound saddening and broken, matching how Hans feels and he ultimately decides to go into self-exile, unable to forgive himself and believing he's unworthy of redemption. As a call back to "Love Is An Open Door", Hans ends it with "I've wasted my whole life... there is no place for me."
If Hans has his HeelRealization and goes into a deep depression, Elsa will sympathize and they have a small duet where she tells him that her experiences have taught her exiling oneself to live with self-hate and hopelessness isn't the answer, so she thinks that Hans should go on a RedemptionQuest and is willing to help him. Like the solo being an antithesis to "Let It Go", this would be one to "Love Is An Open Door". Instead of singing about superficial and minor things she sees she has in common with Hans like Anna did, Elsa would sing about how she suffers from self-doubt, feeling like she only makes everything worse, and regretting a mistake she think she'll never really fix, showing the two are NotSoDifferent. Instead of faking interest with hidden messages of his goals, Hans will be skeptical, and bluntly honest about how he thinks she's wasting her time as he's given up all hope. However, as they continue, Elsa will give him an ArmorPiercingQuestion that causes Hans to realize that there is some sliver of good in him. Now Hans starts to think maybe it's a chance worth taking. It's a completely downplayed falling in love song, as Elsa is just being empathetic, while Hans starts to like Elsa [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe since she's treating him with unconditional kindness in spite of his crimes]].
A song featuring another new character who acts as an ally. If Lars is introduced, it will be a reprise of "In Summer", similar to Olaf. Maybe Lars and Olaf could have a duet talking about their interests in history and summer respectively. Alternately, Hans' animal companion could have their own solo.
A song featuring Hans and his brothers. If Lars is introduced, it will be a reprise of either "Do You Want to Build A Snowman", with him urging Hans to not shut out his good brother. And if Hans' other eleven brothers are introduced, they would want to reconcile with Hans to make up for the years of bullying (aside from urging him not to shut them out as well) [[HeelRealization after]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing]] that their father only cared for himself, so the audience could here a reprise of "Making Today a Perfect Day".
A song featuring the Arendellers, Hans and his family, with Hans and his brothers [[CallingTheOldManOut calling their father out for his abuses]]. His father retorts that Hans should have followed his brothers [[EvilCannotComprehendGood and question why they are supporting Hans]]. And [[KirkSummation Anna, Kristoff and Elsa call the king out for his abuses]].
A reprise of Hans and Elsa's duet, only closer to being a love song. Hans, [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend after refusing to admit it]], realizes he's genuinely enamored with Elsa, but he decides he's not going to tell her [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy because he thinks he'll only bring her more trouble]]. Elsa is oblivious to this and the fact that she's [[SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan starting to care for who he's becoming]].
A reprise of the first song, only this time there is no underlying problems they aren't aware of and everyone has truly [[EarnYourHappyEnding come out better]].

[[WMG:Hans will have his own animal companion]]
Unless we see Sitron again, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse who just vanished all together (unless he's still in Arendelle)]], then Hans will have an animal who acts as a {{Foil}} to Sven that follows him around. This animal will probably be one associated with villains or evil, like a wolf or bat. As a Foil to Sven, it would be a carnivore and have a somewhat serious tone, acting as Hans' conscience but also behaving like TheSpock. If a somewhat humorous moment happens, this animal would function as the OnlySaneMan in the area, looking at everyone with a disapproving look. However, it would still have its own moments of fun and probably function as a ShipperOnDeck, literally pushing a now repentant Hans into getting closer with Elsa.
* A good name for this sidekick would be Gorm. It is a name that sounds rather [[UnfortunateNames evil and putrid]], but is the name of the first king of Denmark and means "God's mercy." Like his master, it symbolizes looking BeneathTheMask to find goodness. Plus it carries on the pseudo-tradition of the main characters' names being four letters long.
* Additionally, with the above theory on extra magic that Hans encounters, if it goes with MaybeMagicMaybeMundane, maybe "Gorm" will "talk" to Hans when they are alone depending on how they meet. Hans thinks that it's just him imagining a voice due to loneliness and deep-seated guilt, but when the two part ways, Hans outright questions if it was really all in his head or if something really was talking to him.
* A wolf would actually be an appropriate animal for Hans to have follow him. The Southern Isles is based on Denmark, where wolves went extinct for the last 200 years, which would match Frozen's time period. Magic or no magic, a wolf would fit with Hans. In Frozen, the wolves might have gone extinct because of the king not liking them rather than any genuine concern for livestock. Gorm might be the last living wolf in the Southern Isles and he would act as a mirror for Hans: UsedToBeASweetKid but the king's evil and toxic influence ruined his life, forcing him to adopt a hostile and hardhearted exterior to survive. Going on an adventure with the heroes would change him and help him overcome his issues.

[[WMG: We will meet the Brotherhood of the Isles from ''A Frozen Heart'']]
Hans briefly mentioned the possibility of his father sending him to the brotherhood, where he will take a vow of silence. If we do see our heroes come to the Southern Isles, we might get to meet this brotherhood. They might play a role in the plot, acting as a {{Foil}} to the trolls; the trolls are a hidden race of non-humans who are friendly and helpful to the royal family, the Brotherhood are a group of well known humans who aid people in secret yet have no loyalty to the current king and wish for someone nicer to take his place. If it turns out they have magic, then the leader, potentially being AmbiguouslyHuman, acts a sort of mentor/fairy god parent figure for Hans, aiding him on a possible RedemptionQuest.

[[WMG: We will get a new [[{{Snowlems}} snowlem]]]]
It's become clear that Elsa's snowlems only come to life due to some strong emotion she has when she makes them. Olaf from her sisterly love for Anna, Marshmallow from her desire for solitude and the Snowgies from her fun loving side. During her adventures, she will probably create a new one.
One rumor going is that Olaf will get a love interest, he would probably ask Elsa to make a snowwoman for him, but it never comes to life. If she and Olaf adventure with Hans and his own animal companion, there will be a point where they make a snowman as a means of bonding. It should be noted that this snowwoman wouldn't be made from any romantic feelings, but a sense of empathy and compassion Elsa would show someone she's supposed to only hate. If the snowwoman comes to life, Hans and Elsa have a brief spat about how the snowlems come to life and if she planned this. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Olaf isn't clueless as to what this is reminiscent of]]. This snowgirl would remain with them on their adventure, being clueless to Olaf's crush on her, asking Hans for some help in getting her interest. Later, Anna finds out and questions what happened, Elsa insists that she and Hans are just friends now, at this point the snowgirl admits [[ShipperOnDeck she thought Hans was her boyfriend the whole time]].

[[WMG: Hans will get a chance to be king, but thanks to CharacterDevelopment he rejects it]]
During his adventure, Hans will have renounced loyalty to his father and realize his goal with becoming a king was because he wanted to impress him. If his father is overthrown, [[DisneyVillainDeath or dies by falling]], there will be a vacancy. Caleb will either be too terrified to take the throne after what's occurred or wants nothing to do with the throne after seeing it's more work than he thought, as will most of Hans' brothers. Hans will actually be given the crown, but immediately realizes he never truly wanted to be a king. He suggests Lars be king, who admits he never wanted the throne, which is why Hans thinks he'd make a better leader. If he and Elsa grow close, she offers to let him stay and potentially rule Arendelle alongside her, but he rejects this as well, seeing Arendelle has a ruler unlike his father, but he's not against seeing her again.

[[WMG: Elsa's depression will finally be addressed and it's an unlikely source who helps her]]
As we've seen in all post-film media, Elsa hasn't completely gotten over her depression, she still suffers from fear, doubt and regret. Seeing how Hans himself seems to have an extreme case of it, he might actually be someone who helps her if he starts a HeelFaceTurn. He could tell her about how she makes the same mistake he's been making his whole life, namely obsessing so much on bad things that it ruins any chance of something good happening. The main difference is that she has more than one person in her life who can help her and that their help isn't limited like it was for him and Lars. If she shows regret for her actions, he'd defend her. One example that's been discussed, seeing first hand the kind of evil man the King of the Southern Isles is, but Hans assures her that it was his own fault for letting fear and obsession get the better of him and she had no way of knowing what his father is like. This event would not only help Elsa learn to "let it go" but also pave way to forgiving Hans.

[[WMG: The Duke's name will be revealed]]
As a RunningGag, people will keep on calling him Duke or something similar like "Dukey" or "Weaselton" before he snaps and exclaims "I HAVE A NAME, YOU KNOW!" Prompting everyone to look surprised since no one ever bothered to ask what it is.
* As Weselton is theorized to be the fantastic equivalent to Sweden, the Duke's first name will likely be Gustaf or Carl, names popular with Swedish royalty.

[[WMG: John De Lancie will play a role in the film]]
John appears as a minor character in Olaf's Frozen Adventure, which seems a little out of place for the actor who has played Q from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and Discord from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Perhaps he's being teased to play a role in ''Frozen 2''. Here's a list of characters he could play.
** King Westergaard.
** A high-ranking officer within the Southern Isles armed forces, who could serve as TheDragon to King Westergaard.
** The previously mentioned AmbiguouslyHuman character who acts as an ally to Hans. This character could even snap their fingers to use their powers like Q and Discord.
** One of Hans' twelve older brothers, potentially Lars.
** The king prior to Hans' father.

[[WMG: The shorts are foreshadowing what will happen in Frozen 2]]
The shorts are more than just filler with added canon, they are hinting at what will happen.
* In Frozen Fever, Elsa's snowball flies to the Southern Isles and crashes into Hans. In the film, our heroes will come to the Southern Isles and she will leave an impact on Hans.
* In Frozen Fever, Kristoff [[TheILoveYouStigma tells Anna he loves her]]. In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, he celebrates an odd troll holiday that makes Olaf whisper to Anna she "doesn't have to settle". In the sequel, their relationship loses its initial spark and they will learn to fix it.
* In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Elsa and Anna make an effort to rejoin the world outside their castle. This will be taken further in the sequel, with the sisters and their friends visiting new lands, like the Southern Isles.
* In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Anna is revealed to have owned a "sorcerer's" cloak and dragon hand puppets. Perhaps there will be actual dragons and a sorcerer who controls themin the sequel.
* In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Elsa and Anna do some digging into their attic and learn more about their past and realize they had a holiday tradition. In the sequel, they might learn more about the prince who almost took their kingdom by looking into his past.
* In both shorts, Elsa still feels guilty that she and her powers forced Anna into a lonely, isolated life. It will play an important role, like she has a fear of her and Anna falling out and thinks any arguments between them are automatically her fault. She will finally learn to forgive herself.

[[WMG: The end will once again feature EvilCannotComprehendGood]]
King Westergaard is a {{Sociopath}} who saw any form of [[VirtueIsWeakness morality or]] [[MeeknessIsWeakness kindness to be weak and a waste]], and often scoffed or ridiculed those who followed such principles. It ends up being his FatalFlaw, and the thing that leads to his downfall. For this reason, Hans gives him a WorldOfCardboardSpeech, telling how the sisters and their friends have helped him see he doesn't have to be the son his father wanted to make his life better and that they like him better after he choose to abandon his issues and [[HeelFaceTurn adopt his former non-violent mindset]]. The king looks down on Kristoff due to his humbleness and poverty, and believes he and Anna are a doomed romance, but they end up getting through their issues and come out stronger. During Hans and Elsa going through their EnemyMine scenario, he attempts to kill his son after the two split off, seeing that no one can save him and no one wants to save him, [[BigDamnHeroes but Elsa ends up saving his life]]. His father thinks Hans will help Elsa out of fear of her or for protection, but Hans actually listens to her since, unlike his father, [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe she was unconditionally good to him]] and sympathizes with his past despite not being ready to forgive him. In the climax, he expects Hans will be too terrified to face him and help Arendelle or will come back to serve him, but Hans stands up to him, [[CallingTheOldManOut calls him out as a cruel man]] and performs a HeroicSacrifice to save Elsa that soon leads to his father's downfall and possible death.

[[WMG: The sequel will feature GoodCannotComprehendEvil]]
Elsa, Anna and Kristoff will remain confused in the sequel, if they decide to visit the Southern Isles, as to why Hans wanted to seize control of Arendelle, assuming he's an evil jerk who got his just desserts ''[[DramaticIrony without realizing why he did it in the first place]]''. Plus, when they visit Hans' kingdom, they'll be baffled as to why the people have grins plastered over their faces, unaware it's actually a {{Dystopia}} where people get killed for badmouthing the king or not paying their taxes on time. Also, when they realize the Isles' grimy secret, they'll wonder why the king has such a nasty temper and assume that he has some sort of FreudianExcuse to rationalize his behavior towards his 13 sons and subjects, only to realize that he has no such thing (or if he has one, it'll be a lousy one at the least) and that he simply uses it to selfishly abuse his power and authority over his family and kingdom.

[[WMG: We will learn about King Agnarr and Queen Iduna and what happened on their trip]]
Frequently, [[WellDoneDaughterGal Elsa will question if she's the ruler her father wanted her to be]], and wonder what life would be like if they were still alive. Anna would tell her not to worry, as she's sure they'd be proud, showing that neither of them resent their parents for separating them as they were only doing what they thought was best, even learning they were planning to end the separation at some point before their deaths. Hans even admits he wishes he had their parents, saying that even when they made a mistake, they did so with good intentions. It's a possibility their parents actually went somewhere they think will help Elsa control her powers, possibly the Southern Isles, as they went there in the hopes of establishing a trading relationship with the kingdom, but were repulsed at the tyranny of King Westergaard, and criticized him for this, stating that a crown should be a symbol of hope, not one of fear. To make Hans' father a more personal enemy, it might be revealed he orchestrated their deaths in reaction to Agnarr's criticism, [[GreaterScopeVillain thus indirectly setting]] the events of ''Frozen'' (aside from causing Hans' downwards spiral towards villainy) by poisoning their ship's water supply and food so that they'd be too sick to journey through stormy waters.
Should Kristoff, Elsa and Anna realize that King Westergaard was the one who killed Agnarr and Iduna, they would be outraged that he is the person truly responsible for causing all the mess that's occurred since their parents' death. To them, he is a profoundly remorseless sociopath and monster who needs to be overthrown, and agree that a king should not be a brutal dictator, criticizing him for his violence once they visit the Southern Isles and realize its truly harsh and grimy secret. [[KirkSummation It's possible Hans]] [[CallingTheOldManOut would call him out for this]] as well (despite acknowledging his own crimes and saying that he did them out of the pure desire to earn his abusive father's respect), if it's revealed that King Westergaard killed not only Agnarr and Idun, but also his own wife as a means to not rub out any potential threats to his power base, but to continue maintaining his iron-fisted grip on the populace. Hans could also tell that his adventure with Elsa and company really made him realize that his father's harsh methods were wrong from the beginning ''and'' that his [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain journey to earn the king's respect was self-destructive.]]

[[WMG: Elsa's sexuality gets teased about in the beginning as a joke]]
It's no secret the AlternateCharacterInterpretation of Elsa's sexuality is very popular. As a joke, Anna, [[TheMatchmaker who wants her sister to meet somebody]], notes Elsa hasn't met a man who interests her. After Anna makes a suggestive tone towards a woman, who might or might not be Marisol, Elsa quickly responds "Whoa! Just because I haven't shown interest in a boyfriend doesn't mean I'm not attracted to men! I just haven't had an interest in relationships." The books establish that Elsa has more interest in being a sister and ruler than romance and the story enforces she's not against falling for someone but it isn't her top priority. So that even if she gets a love interest, this person will respect her wishes and just take things slow with her so that they aren't an OfficialCouple, at least not yet.

[[folder: The Nature of Magic]]
[[WMG: Every planetary alignment in a set number of years ends up granting someone powers at birth.]]
With WordOfGod stating that Elsa's powers are due to being born 1,000 years after an alignment of Saturn, maybe each of the planets have a sort of elemental power that activates during certain alignments at certain years? Jupiter, for instance, often represents thunder and lightning, and Io, one of its primary moons, is really hot and has volcanos—maybe an alignment at the right time grants someone lightning/fire/heat powers?

[[WMG: All the celestial bodies of the Frozen universe (or at least in the solar system) are [[PhysicalGod Physical Gods]].]]
Seeing an alignment of Saturn's icy attributes plus 1,000 years gave Elsa ice powers, and a drop of sunlight gave [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] healing/reversal abilities, maybe the planetary bodies are in fact sentient entities who have the ability to grant magic to specific individuals?

[[WMG: The icy attributes of the Saturn alignment takes 1,000 to effect someone on Earth because Saturn, Enceladus, etc. are so far away...]]
... In contrast to the "drop of sunlight" with Rapunzel, which physically landed on the Earth and thus took effect immediately.
[[WMG: Celestial Bodies and the Powers they give]]
We already know that the Sun gives Life Power and Saturn gives Ice Power. The top WMG in this folder suggests that Jupiter gives Storm Power. As for the other celestial bodies:
* The Moon has a connection to the tides, so it gives Sea Power.
* Mars is a desert planet, so it gives Sand Power.
* Mercury is a barren world, so it would give Stone Power.
* Venus is basically uber-Mordor, so it gives Fire Power.
* Neptune might give Rain Power.
* Uranus might give Wind Power. And I just realised [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone what]] [[IncrediblyLamePun I've done]].
* Comets, meteors and mayne dwarf planets might give Metal Power because they're a promising source of metal ores.
* And the stars and constellations themselves probably give some sort of undefined Star Power that's either AllYourPowersCombined or a random one of the other Powers turned UpToEleven.

[[folder:Meta (Merch, Cultural Impact, etc.)]]
[[WMG: The US 3D Blu-ray release will be less of a Main/VanillaEdition than the standard 2D Blu-ray release that came out in March,2014]]
Just hear me out; now I own the standard 2D release because I neither own a 3D-TV or a 3D Blu-ray player and while I am perfectly content with what I paid for, I know a lot of fans in the US wished Disney had released the 3D version simultaneously. Now that being said, I am a little disappointed in the Extras department for not including more behind-the-scenes features; true, there's a small seven minute documentary on the company's 75 year journey with trying to make the film and there's a neat little music video, but that's it. There's no optional commentary by the directors/producers/anyone involved with the making of this film or an art gallery (though, thankfully, the iTunes release does include this).

Now with the upcoming 3D Blu-ray release, I wouldn't be surprised if they transferred all the extras from the standard release while adding in the commentary, art gallery, and even the ABC documentary "The Story of Frozen".

[[WMG: Somebody on the ''Frozen'' direction or production team was or is a big ''Sense and Sensibility'' fan.]]

In addition to the fact that Jane Austen fan fiction, sequels, and parodies are rampant these days, the ''Frozen'' story has many parallels to ''Sense and Sensibility,'' whether the writers meant that to be true or not. The stories don't have a perfect 1:1 relationship, but consider these similarities:

** Elsa = Elinor Dashwood. They have similar names and similar personalities. Elsa is the least emotion-driven of the two ''Frozen'' sisters, and arguably the more intelligent. (A deleted song has Anna describing her as "the scholar, athlete, [and] poet.") Both Elsa and Elinor are accused of being cold and unfeeling even though they feel deeply; they just don't feel safe expressing those emotions. With Elinor, it's because her time period restricts her expression, but with Elsa, it's because she knows becoming emotional unleashes hurtful ice powers. Elinor, like Elsa, also chastises sister Marianne for improper behavior such as becoming quickly romantically attached to a man she barely knows.

** Anna = Marianne Dashwood. Anna, like Marianne, is more emotion-driven, reckless, and sanguine. Like Marianne, she is desperate to be loved and experience all the headiness of romance, but sometimes at the expense of good sense or even her health. Anna doesn't understand why Elsa would shut her out, just as Marianne doesn't understand why Elinor won't reveal anything she's feeling.

** Kristoff = Colonel Brandon. He's quieter and less flashy than Prince Hans, but he's also reliable and steady. His presence helps Anna mature, just as Colonel Brandon's presence helps Marianne mature.

** Prince Hans = [[spoiler: Willoughby. Anna believes she loves him, and he is quite romantic and dashing. Yet, he ends up breaking her heart and nearly causing her death.]]

** Duke of Weaselton (WESSELTON!) = John Dashwood Jr. He is determined to take Arendelle from Elsa and Anna, just as Elinor and Marianne's half-brother John was determined to keep them bankrupt after their father's death.

At least one major plot point matches up as well:

** Marianne's disastrous walk in the garden, which lands her with a serious fever and nearly kills her, matches up with [[spoiler: Anna's nearly fatal frozen heart.]] It also matches up because like Marianne, it is not until Anna is deathly ill that she discovers [[spoiler: Hans, her Willoughby, is a real cad.]] Of course, in ''Sense and Sensibility,'' Marianne discovered this earlier, but her illness really helped her get over Willoughby.

[[WMG: At least one song from the film will be played on Christmas radio stations.]]
To the delight of some and to the detraction of others.
* Confirmed with "Do You Want to Build a Snowman".

[[WMG: Following the final scene, the Broadway play will end with a TriumphantReprise of Let It Go, sung by the entire cast.]]
And it will be an AudienceParticipationSong. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome And it will be the most epic thing ever.]]

[[WMG: There will be an animated tv series produced after the sequel.]]
Since the franchise is still crazy-popular, and since they're also making [[WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries a Tangled series]], it'd be nuts for them to not be thinking about making a Frozen series as well. But they are going to wait until after Frozen 2 comes out so as not to create a ContinuitySnarl with the new movie.
* If Hans does make a HeelFaceTurn and stays in Arendelle, he'd be a good AudienceSurrogate for learning about the country and it's traditions.
* They could adapt some of the stories from the chapter books.
* Maybe they could even have a crossover special with WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries like WesternAnimation/AladdinTheSeries and WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} did!

[[WMG: Act One of the Broadway show will end with Let It Go.]]
It's the most natural spot to split the story, wows audiences with the show's show-stopping number and lets them leave Act One with a big smile on their faces. It provides a natural splitting point since it's the end of the first part of the story; Anna sets out to find Elsa while Elsa is revelling in her new found freedom. It also allows a great start for Act 2 by introducing Kristoff properly and having some great comedy at Oaken's.
* Alternatively, Act One will end just after the Wolf Chase and Act Two will start with Olaf's introduction. Either of these would be great splitting points, but Let It Go would be the more exciting and memorable one.


[[WMG:''"Let it go" is about flatulence'']]
* Works on '''SO''' many levels:
** "The wind is howling like the swirling storm inside..." (TMI?)
** "Couldn't keep it in, heaven knows I tried."
** "Can't hold it back anymore."
** "Turn away and slam the door!" (i.e. ''"clear the room, people!"'')
** "I don't care what their going to say!"
** "Let the storm rage on..."
** "I am one with the wind..."
** "The perfect girl is gone!" (maybe she got blown away?)
[[WMG:''Everyone'' is gay]]
* Yes, even Olaf.
** Actually, that does make sense, given he was born from Elsa's desires (the sun, Summer, be close to her sister, et cetera)
* Well, that's just basic literary analysis, isn't it? (Speaking as the guy who posted the Oaken instance of this.)
* Why "even Olaf"? There's no indication that he'd be straight so it's not really a weird suggestion. Anna and Kristoff, on the other hand, seem rather heterosexual (although they could be bi too), so they are the ones who are harder to argue being gay. (Though not impossible! They could be heteroromantic, for example. Or confusing friendship with romance due to social expectations.) The former King and Queen are easier to explain, since theirs could easily have been a marriage of convenience: they seem to be a happy family and to love each other but we can't know if they were ''in love'' with each other.

[[WMG: Frozen is the birth of Disney Princess Theory]]
This isn't at all a concrete theory, but rather a pretty large series of coincidences. Disney has gone through some pretty interesting lengths to keep the [[Franchise/DisneyPrincess Disney Princess franchise]] fresh in people's minds lately. Consider these points:

1. Tiana is the first African American princess, the most modern Disney princess, and the first official Disney Princess since [[Disney/{{Mulan}} 1998]]. Disney wants to draw in a new target demographic, and expressed regret that they did not draw in a good male audience, leading to an effort to capitalize on branding Flynn in ''Disney/{{Tangled}}''.

2. The last four princesses have all been animated in CGI rather than Disney's typical style of 2D animation. Disney has played a lot recently with special effects in these movies, and the result is pretty good. The fact that Brave is a Pixar movie, however, may or may not mean that Merida will be left out of this new direction.

3. The princes in ''The Princess and the Frog'', ''Tangled'' and ''Brave'' all started out as being jerks. This could be some type of theme, or it could not be. Besides the fact that this goes directly against Disney's past standards, Hans is a subversion of this line of thinking, so this isn't my strongest argument. [[spoiler: At least until the end of course!]]

4. Disney has two live action movies slated for the next two years, Maleficent and Cinderella, both of which are reduxes of Princesses they've already covered. These movies will probably retcon in events tying together the older set of Disney Princess movies. Maleficent will be told from the POV of the villain as well, which may prove to be good in terms of theory storytelling. They may also prove to be a good chance to tie in with the movie Enchanted.

5. See the WMG above on the Rapunzel cameo, as well as [[http://jonnegroni.com/2014/03/12/indisputable-proof-that-frozen-and-tangled-exist-in-the-same-universe/ this link]] to the site, current home of Pixar Theory discussion. This is why I believe Frozen to be the birth of Princess theory, because it is the first obvious effort to tie multiple princesses to the same universe. The fact that they are so close together in the timeline also hints that they may be part of a certain subset.

6. Pixar Theory itself seems to be waning. Monsters University was a prequel that lent nothing to the greater timeline. Planes was created by John Lassiter, but was handed off to Disney Toon Studios. There is no Pixar movie slated for this year, and the next two, from what we know so far, just don't seem to fit. The Good Dinosaur is explicitly stated to be in an alternate dimension, which actually may hurt Pixar Theory in general. Unless they do work out, I think we can safely assume that Brave was the last of Pixar's great vision (which makes sense, seeing as it was decided to be the first and last movie in the timeline).

[[WMG:Elsa's Ice Palace will be properly refurbished, and there will be a Snow Queen there [=24/7/365=].]]
The ruse will not draw off ''all'' the adventurers wandering in to "Free Arendelle From The Ice Witch's Grasp" (the Incident is bound to get severely distorted in the retelling without steamships and telegraphs in wide use); but the more gullible ones that bypass the capital to head straight for a lair in ice-bound reaches where snow is permanent 24/7/365 can chase some simulacra around a bit, smash something vaguely female & menacing heroically, and head home none the wiser as 'she' pulls herself together.
* If Elsa does not reshape 'Marshmallow' into her decoy, then [=he/she/it=] gets to be TheDragon.
* And yes, all the citizenry will be in on it. There will be some disappointment when Elsa has to remove the ice skating rink in time for Arendelle's population to hold a parade in "honor" of the hero, and keeping straight faces will be a challenge.

[[WMG:''Frozen'' takes place later then we thought]]
Not in the 21st century but sometime in the early-to-mid 20th. It's set in an AU universe which explains the AnachronismStew.

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The prison cell which Elsa is thrown into was built on her parents' orders years ago as a precaution in case their daughter ever went out of control]]]]
Many fan fiction writers point to the manacles she's made to wear as proof that the room was designed especially for her.
* According to a tweet of Jennifer Lee's, it was Hans who had the manacles made.
** Why would they be custom-made manacles? Prisoners come in all different sizes and you can't predict the hand-size of a difficult one- it makes more sense for them to be adjustable when unlocked. Ordinary handcuffs can adjust to fit almost any human wrist.
** If anyone [[spoiler:made those manacles for Elsa]] they weren't very good at the job, seeing as they warped and broke almost immediately under... pretty much exactly the conditions they would have been intended for.
* The "prison cell" was aboard a boat. Most likely Han's boat.
** No it wasn't. Ever seen a boat made out of stone?
* It was probably just a regular cell that she was thrown into, not custom made for her unlike the manacles. Which is probably why she managed to escape so quickly after getting out of said manacles.
* It was a regular cell where political prisoners are most likely held.
* It may not have been built for Elsa, but for someone earlier in her family's lineage who had similar powers.
[[WMG:Elsa is a [[VideoGame/InFamous Conduit]], and a very powerful one at that]]
Like her eventual successors Cole Macgrath and [[VideoGame/InfamousSecondSon Delsin Rowe]], Elsa is one of the small percentage of humans with the Conduit gene that allows for amazing abilities. Her abilities manifest as Ice/Snow, much like Lucy Kuo, though she seems to have a wider range of abilities.

The only problem is that she seems to have a wide range of abilities even after suppressing them for more than a decade. As [[spoiler:Augustine tells Delsin during their final battle, right after he copies her concrete powers]], it takes years to focus and strengthen a Conduit's powers; Delsin (and Cole, incidently, [[spoiler:at least in this timeline]]) only developed their powers due to their exposure to Ray Field energy (Cole's powers were activated specifically BECAUSE of his exposure, Delsin's manifested naturally but were never seen because he'd never met another Conduit). It's entirely possible that Elsa was exposed to a large amount of Ray Field energy when she was a child (it would have to be, as she already expresses an amazing amount of control over her powers that early) or she could just be a gifted Conduit like [[spoiler: the Cole from the original timeline (alias Kessler)]]. It would certainly explain how she got her powers if no one else in her family has any abilities, as the Conduit gene's distribution is seemingly random.
** And not just any Conduit, she's the ancestor of Lucy Kuo.

[[WMG: ''[[Disney/{{Frozen}} Frozen]]'' was very controversial when it was released in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse]]
A positive depiction of a mutant in a film aimed toward children? Never mind that Elsa wasn't the main character and was a reluctant villain for 2/3rds of the film, the overall message to mutants was "Don't isolate or repress your powers, but share them with the world" and the message to humans was "Don't fear or be prejudiced against mutants, but accept them for who they are." Friends of Humanity must have had a field day picketing the premiere!
* Well, it obviously serves as a push towards metahuman openess: Look at all the harm that came from Elsa hiding her powers! She meant well, and her parents just wanted to protect her, but it ultimately put Elsa and everyone around her in even more danger; wouldn't it have been better for everyone to know about Elsa's power from the start? And shouldn't the people around her have the right to know about her abilities? Boy, it sure makes anyone who'd try to keep their special powers secret look like they ''really'' have something to hide...
* When the movie [[IncrediblyLamePun came out]], Rogue ruined her chair by gripping the armrests too hard. Thor just bawled through the entire movie, then went to find Loki, hug him, and never let go.

[[WMG: In the Franchise/MarvelUniverse, ''Frozen'' was a live-action film without a very big special effects budget.]]
Because they had an actual mutant play Elsa.

[[WMG: Elsa is the reason [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime the Mushroom War]] happened]]
[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10361722/1/The-Most-Men-s-Rights-Activist-Fanfic-Ever-Made Because her army of "feminist water elemental warrior lesbians"]] took over Scandinavia, and Finn went back in time to stop her.

[[WMG: Elsa accidentally cursed Anna.]]
[[spoiler:Elsa hits Anna with the ice blast, Anna freezes, does her act of true love, and thaws.]] But does that mean the ice, let alone the magic is out of her system? Not to mention that Grand Pabbie and King Agdar had a conversation communicated that Elsa's powers could be cursed onto someone else. Anna has been cursed with Elsa's powers, but it's not a big deal because they know how to thaw most accidental freezes (and Anna's rarely scared anyway). The last scene of the film could be before or after that revelation.
* The only part of the conversation to suggest this is Pabbie asking Agdar, "Born with the powers or cursed?" and there' no implication that an ice-magic practitioner can curse someone else with it.

[[WMG:At least one of Hans’s brothers was/is trying to [[InvokedTrope invoke]] AllGirlsWantBadBoys.]]
Too bad for him, he missed how exactly how to do it: He acts like a {{Wangst}}-y goth who peppers his speech with random depressing poetry. Naturally, keeping up this act prevents him from getting into a serious relationship.

[[WMG: Elsa's parents did the right thing]]
Ok, they died before she came to adulthood, and I don't believe they ever told her to keep her powers concealed forever. I kind of suspect that when they thought she was old enough to be responsible (we'd already seen the damage a small child could do), they would have let her gradually start using them again. But, since they died, Elsa kept trying to conceal them, and that created the problem.
* The same logic is applicable to say that they probably intended to tell Anna about Elsa's powers once they thought Anna had come of age.

[[WMG: Kristoff will propose to Anna at the end of Frozen Fever.]]
* Unlikely, as it will go against one of Frozen's minor messages: "[[FourthDateMarriage You can't marry a man you just met]]." Frozen Fever takes place only a few month after the film, so it's still too early for Anna and Kristoff to get serious.
** It's possible that given the HilarityEnsues tone the trailers are going for, there might be a proposal in the works, but from a thematic point of view, this short is still very much about Anna and Elsa. It wouldn't quite fit for a climax for Kristoff to propose at the end of the short. Then again, if he did propose, it'd be too easy for Anna to give the typical "Best Birthday EVER!" speech.
[[WMG:Those women Elsa walks past in "For the First Time in Forever" are supposed to be her ladies in waiting]]
Ladies-in-waiting were perfectly normal for many queens (either as a single queen, queen regent or queen consort[[note]]like Anna and Elsa's mother[[/note]]) in Europe to have during the pre-20th century time period. Their pose is also suggestive of this.
[[WMG:You're allowed to wear more rosemaling in Arendelle the older you get]]
Notice that Anna wears the same style of nightgown both as a five year old and as an eighteen year old. But there are subtle differences: Anna's nightgown as an adult has longer sleeves and also has two bands of rosemaling.
* It's logical that her adult clothes are more elaborate than her childhood clothes- she's going to have them for longer now that her physical growth has stopped.
[[WMG:The world of Arendelle is inside a [[Disney/WreckItRalph video game]]]]
There are several factors that imply that the setting of the movie takes place in a video game.

1. Anna, Sven, and Kristoff surviving the fall off the cliff, implying that they live in a world without fall damage, much like ''Sugar Rush''.

2. The sudden cold weather seems to have no impact upon the health or well-being of any of the citizens of Arendelle, perhaps because they are [=NPCs=] that lack health to lose.

3. [[spoiler: Hans]] is seemingly immune to fire, which is often not too devastating to many video game characters, and is even [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros wielded as a weapon]] [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 by certain ones]].

4. The designs of the characters seem to have a style slightly resembling Nintendo characters, with the big heads and big eyes (so much so that people often mistake Elsa and [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Rosalina]] for each other).

5. [[spoiler:Elsa undoing all the snow and ice is very similar to the ResetButton at the end of Disney/WreckItRalph.]]

Just too many video game tropes exist in this movie for the possibility not to exist that it is indeed a video game. Not saying it is definite or even probable, but it's not impossible.

[[WMG: Frozen is the [[VideoGame/ArNosurgeOdeToAnUnbornStar distant future]] of [[spoiler: the new Ra Ciela.]] ]]
* Elsa's magic comes from her being an Incarnate, and the trolls are a subspecies of Sharl. Olaf and Marshmallow are like Prims created by Elsa.

[[WMG: There will be a Frozen TV series on Disney Junior sometime in the future]]
So far there's already been ''WesternAnimation/JakeAndTheNeverlandPirate''s and ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' (respectively spin-offs of ''Disney/PeterPan'' and ''Disney/TheLionKing''). Considering its wide popularity and bringing big bucks to Disney, Frozen has the likelihood of being given a television spin-off at some point.

[[WMG: Hans will be back in Frozen Ever After]]

[[WMG: Frozen is set in the world of [[Franchise/DragonAge Dragon Age]].]]
Perhaps it's in the northern continent rather than Thedas, perhaps in a distant future where Tevinter, the Chantry and magic are all but forgotten and whatever scraps of it are offhandedly taught to nobles, but Elsa is a mage, the first mage born in Arendelle in centuries, and those faint, scattered records of what happened in the Dragon Age franchise are the only source of information about her nature. And it's why the King, Queen and the Duke of Weselton were utterly terrified of her even though nobody has any idea what's going on.
The trolls possess a potent connection to the Fade and are therefore more familiar with Elsa's condition.

[[WMG: Frozen is set in the same universe as Undertale.]]
1000 years after the monsters were sealed underground, humans started using magic less, to the point that magic users could only be born under certain celestial conditions. Elsa happened to be born during the event associated with ice magic. Alternatively, only people with magic-wielding ancestors can use it; Elsa and Anna's great great great great etc. grandparent helped make the barrier. The trolls in the film are actually monsters; when all the other monsters went underground, the trolls hid.