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After Azulon's demonstration, Azulon would have seen Azula as the success of his genetic experiment and would have therefore decided to dispose of Luten and then Zuko to weed out what he saw as experimental failures and ensure that the Fire Lord's line would continue through her alone. Azulon was the only person who could have arranged for Luten's death in a way that no one would find out. Had Ozai had done it Iroh would have found out from someone who was loyal to him after all he was the crown prince and only way this could of happened is if the orders were from above Iroh.

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After Azulon's demonstration, Azulon would have seen Azula as the success of his genetic experiment and would have therefore decided to dispose of Luten and then Zuko to weed out what he saw as experimental failures and ensure that the Fire Lord's line would continue through her alone. Azulon was the only person who could have arranged for Luten's death in a way that no one would find out. Had Ozai had done it Iroh would have found out from someone who was loyal to him after all he was the crown prince and only way this could of have happened is if the orders were from above Iroh.
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** Jossed. She was halluncinating.
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** Jossed. She was halluncinating.



* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed. Depressed into forgetting both her children, but not crazy.]]




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** Half-right. She keeps the letter about Ursa being Ikem's son, but she does burn the envelope and the location of Ursa after she memorized it to travel unbound.




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** Set pieces are there but the map is wrong. Ozai wants the throne, Azulon won't give it to him. Ozai's ploy for it blows up in his face. Ursa decides to create a poison that would technically nullify the order, then Ozai banishes her and keeps the kids for collateral.




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** Jossed. Zuko was only to die for poetic justice. Eye for an Eye, so that Ozai would theoretically know the pain of losing his first born son.



* [[spoiler:Jossed, Azula is still perfectly capable of bending.]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed, Azula is still perfectly capable of bending. In fact, despite her emotional turmoil being greater than before, she's improved her lightning bending.]]




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** Jossed. Azulon wanted to issue out poetic justice, an eye for an eye. However, if the order WAS to kill Azula, Ozai would have done so.




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* Wrong on the first one. One of the most important messages of Azula's storyline in the original series is that Monsters are made, not born. However, at that moment in time when her mind and heart were breaking apart, she would've made a lot of bad choices and decisions based in either wrath or paranoia that would've brought down the fire nation.

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** Half right. Ursa's illusions is Azula's repressed conscience but not because Azula had anything to do with her mother's disappearance; but rather their failed relationship. For all her talk and sass, Azula is self-conscious about her cruel streak and possibly her childhood brattiness; realizing later in life that all her talk of getting people to fear her got her nothing. What we see is different and yet, not unlike what we saw of Zuko's internal war through the animated series. Azula's hallucinations are at war with the Fire Nation propaganda she got drilled into her little head but it's also combined with a more desperate desire to be loved and trusted by a parent and her friends. The mask here and in smoke and shadow is analogus to the "tea shop" worker mask Zuko wore: This is not who she really is and wants to be but unlearning that stuff is immensely difficult and takes years of proper therapy to beat out.


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** [[spoiler: [[Main/Jossed Jossed]]. [[spoiler: Azula learns what happens but it isn't the brain breaking we thought would happen. Rather, Zuko's amazing speech about how he'll never turn his back on Azula gives Azula some steady ground to regain her sanity.]]

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** Half-right, sadly. All it took was one bad summer for her world to go inside out.




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** [[spoiler: confirmed, but different circumstances. Ursa gives Ozai a ploy and poison to kill Ozai's father for the throne in return for Zuko and Azula's safety.]]




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** Half-Jossed: The marriage was a shit-show from the get-go. They could've had absolutely perfect genetics and it all would still have gone to hell.




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** [[spoiler: Not entirely wrong. Ursa wanted to get out of that marriage fast but wanted to take both Zuko and Azula. That was the original intention, then Ozai went back on his word to a degree and kept the kids as hostages in case Ursa decided to try to poison Ozai in turn.




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** No. Azulon loved Roku while Ozai was the Unfavorite. Back in the series proper, Azulon was furious at Ozai for trying to make a power play during his grandson's death in battle. You're right about Iroh and his sense of principles. Besides, did you see how utterly unimpressed he was with Azula's firebending? Azula could have given Azulon the world and still never be happy with her or Ozai.



[[spoiler: Good idea, but ultimately not the case. Azula put on a much better performance than Zuko; but Azula's the child of what Azulon considers an irritating Tag Nut at best. So what if she's prodigial? 2 X 0 = 0. And that would only work if they really knew Azula was back behind the curtain. And given how bad that marriage was; Ursa couldn't do jack and shit to them. Also, considering that Azulon gave the order for Zuko to be killed in the first place, it's quite plausible that the royal family would have found a way to do the deed and carry on like nobody's business.]]




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** The page Azula burnt was Azula's insurance to come along on the journey lest Zuko never finds out about their mother.




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* [[spoiler: However, Ursa spirit theory is Jossed. Azula's really just that broke-brained.]]




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[[spoiler: Somewhat confirmed upon interpretation of Smoke and Shadow. Yes, Azula looks better and has some degree of sanity...however, Azula is still preaching about the old ways of the Fire Nation: Control through fear and power, [[IgnoredEpiphany completely missing why she went bonkers in the first place]]. It's not said to the characters in the book and nobody picks up on it, but Azula's mentality nearly goes back to square one and looks to set herself up for a bigger brain break later down the line.]]




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** [[spoiler: For now, [[Main/Jossed Jossed]]; Azula regains some sanity but goes right back to trying to rule through fear. Only difference is that it's to be done through Zuko.]]
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*And what evidence do you have of this claim. Azulon's anger seemed very genuine.


The other is that Ozai is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is fully aware that it's impossible that Ursa could have met Ikem. He concludes (or realizes it after their argument in Vol.2) that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters and decides that if she can be that GenreSavvy then she deserves some particularly painful treatment. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done to Zuko had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the monster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to whatever Ozai had in mind. Zuko thus became the center of his parent's feud.

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The other is that Ozai is DangerouslyGenreSavvy smart and is fully aware that it's impossible that Ursa could have met Ikem. He concludes (or realizes it after their argument in Vol.2) that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters and decides that if she can be that GenreSavvy smart then she deserves some particularly painful treatment. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done to Zuko had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the monster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to whatever Ozai had in mind. Zuko thus became the center of his parent's feud.
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The other is that Ozai is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is fully aware that it's impossible that Ursa could have met Ikem. He concludes (or realizes it after their argument in Vol.2) that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters and decides that if she can be that GenreSavvy then she deserves some particularly painful treatment. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done to Zuko had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the CompleteMonster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to whatever Ozai had in mind. Zuko thus became the center of his parent's feud.

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The other is that Ozai is DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is fully aware that it's impossible that Ursa could have met Ikem. He concludes (or realizes it after their argument in Vol.2) that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters and decides that if she can be that GenreSavvy then she deserves some particularly painful treatment. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done to Zuko had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the CompleteMonster monster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to whatever Ozai had in mind. Zuko thus became the center of his parent's feud.
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* Although [[spoiler: [[StarWars from a certain point of view]] you could say she ''did'' "die" as she was mind-wiped when she became Noriko without any memory of her past other than her love for Ikem/Noren. Ursa ceased to be until Mother of Faces returned her identity.]]

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* Although [[spoiler: [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars from a certain point of view]] you could say she ''did'' "die" as she was mind-wiped when she became Noriko without any memory of her past other than her love for Ikem/Noren. Ursa ceased to be until Mother of Faces returned her identity.]]

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* [[spoiler:Played with. Ozai was well aware that the letter was BlatantLies, but, as a punishment to Ursa, decided to treat Zuko as if he wasn't his son.]]

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*[[spoiler:Well, it could be considered a BatmanGambit GoneHorriblyWrong. Ursa wrote the letter simply to get Ozai to admit he was spying on her. While Ozai knew that what was in the letter wasn't true, as punishment to Ursa, he decides to treat Zuko as if it was.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jossed. Both Ursa and Azula are still alive at the end of the comic.]]




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*[[spoiler:Subverted. Noren and Noriko are not reincarnations of Ikem and Ursa, rather they literally ''are'' Ikem and Ursa with new faces (and in Ursa's case, with her memories of her life at the palace erased). Though Ikem still has his memories.]]




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*[[spoiler:Played with. Ozai was well aware that the letter was BlatantLies, but, as a punishment to Ursa, decided to treat Zuko as if he wasn't his son.]]

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*[[spoiler: Jossed. No one dies in the comic.]]

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* Jossed in Part 3. Ursa had lost her memory and didn't even know who Zuko and Azula were, so there's no way she could've been communicating with her. It really was just Azula's hallucination.

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* Jossed in Part 3. Ursa had lost her memory and didn't even know who Zuko and Azula were, so there's no way she could've been communicating with her. It really was just Azula's hallucination.
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** [[spoiler:Point one is confirmed, Zuko and Azula are actually the children of Ursa and Ozai. Point two is Jossed, they both have younger half sister - Kiyi, the daughter of "Noren" (actually Ikem) and "Noriko" (actually Ursa).]]
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* Although [[spoiler: [[StarWars from a certain point of view]] you could say she ''did'' "die" as she was mind-wiped when she became Noriko without any memory of her past other than her love for Ikem/Noren. Ursa ceased to be until Mother of Faces returned her identity.]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed. Mother of Faces returns Ursa's memories and she tells Zuko the truth. The letter is a lie she used to see if Ozai was intercepting her letters and he was. Also Ozai is fully aware that Zuko is indeed his son, and treats Zuko badly just to get back at Ursa for hoping Zuko doesn't take after Ozai. Ozai's just that messed up.]]
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* [[spoiler: That's certainly how Ozai chose to interpret it, and punished Ursa by treating Zuko as such.]]




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* [[spoiler: Mostly Jossed, but she ''does'' have three children... Zuko, Azula, and Kiyi.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jossed. She escapes.]]




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** [[spoiler:Jossed. Both Zuko and Azula are Ozai's children.]]




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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Zuko is indeed Ozai's son. Ozai even had spies watch Ursa months before their marriage to confirm this.]]







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** [[spoiler: Jossed. The incriminating letter is indeed from Ursa. But the information about Zuko being Ikem's son is not true.]]





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\n** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Zuko has been Ozai's son all along. ]]





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**[[spoiler: Confirmed. Ursa met the Blue Wolf so she could meet the Mother of Faces to change her face to Noriko's.]]




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*[[spoiler: Confirmed. Sokka's boomerang does hit Azula in the head at a critical moment when she's about to hurt Noren and Noriko.]]




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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Ursa is alive and well living her life as Noriko.]]




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed! Ikem and Ursa did become Noren and Noriko thanks to the Mother of Faces. This way they can live their lives peacefully together without any painful memories. While Noren remembers his and Ursa's past, Noriko has forgotten her time at the Fire Nation Palace because the memories were too painful.]]




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*[[spoiler: Confirmed! Rafa lost his face to Koh the Face Stealer.]]



*[[spoiler: Confirmed! However, Koh is the Mother of Face's estranged son.]]




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* [[spoiler: Jossed. Zuko successfully redirected the lightning.]]




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed! Zuko and Azula are Kyi's half-siblings. Ursa is their mother.]]




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* [[spoiler: Partially confirmed. While Ursa/Noriko does not remember her painful past, Ikem/Noren knows to keep both of their pasts secret to protect themselves.]]




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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Ursa has gotten her face changed into Noriko and wants to live peacefully with Ikem/Noren.]]


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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Ursa's wishful thinking that Zuko was Ikem's son gives Ozai a reason to treat Zuko as he were Ikem's son. In other words, very miserably.]]
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On the assumption that the previous WMGs about Ikem and Ursa are true, then Kyi is at the very least Zuko's half sister. Hints in this regard are how Zuko takes a liking to the child and her dolls and how she gets so friendly with him that she tugs his arm at the end and wants to know if he'll come back. It's definitely full of those "older brother vibes".

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On the assumption that the previous WMGs [=WMGs=] about Ikem and Ursa are true, then Kyi is at the very least Zuko's half sister. Hints in this regard are how Zuko takes a liking to the child and her dolls and how she gets so friendly with him that she tugs his arm at the end and wants to know if he'll come back. It's definitely full of those "older brother vibes".
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[[WMG: Ursa's fate will unhinge Azula for good]]
She will in the end realize that there was no way for her mother to have plotted against her or spoken to her in any manner at all, but unfortunately for her, this belief is the only focal point that has been keeping her mind steady, that too only by rage. Now with all clarity gone, she'll collapse into total insanity. Azula simply cannot accept or face the truth within her conscience.

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* Secondary WMG: Her visions of Ursa might actually be her own repressed conscience. Or Ursa herself is trying to act as her moral conscience as she has become too confused and misguided.

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* Secondary WMG: Her visions of Ursa might actually be her own repressed conscience. Or Ursa herself is trying to act as her moral conscience as she has become too confused and misguided.



[[WMG: Zuko is Ozai's son but the letter caused Ozai to cross yet another MoralEventHorizon and take his wrath on Ursa by disowning Zuko instead. The UnfortunateImplications of letter resulted in Zuko's preferential treatment and all his misery]]
There are two possible ways of doing this. One is that after reading that letter Ozai began to consider that Zuko was no longer his son and therefore began to treat him like a low class child. The other is that Ozai is GenreSavvy enough to know that there's no way Ursa could have met Ikem and that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the CompleteMonster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to Ozai's ideas. Zuko became the center of his parent's feud and the letter paved the way for all his suffering. Either of these would certainly explain Ozai's favoritism of Azula and his cruelty to Zuko. The letter basically led Ozai to disown his son and cross a new MoralEventHorizon yet again, as he has done virtually every time he gets story space.

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[[WMG: Zuko is Ozai's son but the letter caused Ozai to cross yet another MoralEventHorizon and take his wrath on Ursa by disowning Zuko instead. The UnfortunateImplications of letter resulted in Zuko's preferential treatment and all his Zuko being condemned to a life of misery]]
There are two possible ways of doing this. One is that after reading that letter Ozai began to consider that Zuko was no longer his son and therefore began to treat him like a low class child.

The other is that Ozai is GenreSavvy enough to know DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is fully aware that there's no way it's impossible that Ursa could have met Ikem and Ikem. He concludes (or realizes it after their argument in Vol.2) that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters.letters and decides that if she can be that GenreSavvy then she deserves some particularly painful treatment. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done to Zuko had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the CompleteMonster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to Ozai's ideas. whatever Ozai had in mind. Zuko thus became the center of his parent's feud and feud.

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the letter paved the way road for all his of Zuko's suffering. Either of these Both possibilities would certainly explain Ozai's favoritism of Azula and his cruelty to Zuko. The Zuko, although the second possibility would be much more clever writing that plays with the reader's heads for a while but in the end avoids splitting the fanbase and does not doom the central theme of who Zuko is -- it's clear in Vol.2 that Ozai is aware of just what lengths his wife will go to and that is one reason for his ill-treatment of her. In short the letter basically led Ozai to disown his son and cross a new MoralEventHorizon yet again, as he has done virtually every time he gets story space.
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On the assumption that the previous WMGs about Ikem and Ursa are true, then Kyi is at the very least Zuko's half sister. Hints in this regard are how Zuko takes a liking to the child and her dolls and how she gets so friendly with him that she tugs his arm at the end and wants to know if he'll come back. It's definitely full of those "older brother vibes".


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[[WMG: Zuko is Ozai's son but the letter caused Ozai to cross yet another MoralEventHorizon and take his wrath on Ursa by disowning Zuko instead. The UnfortunateImplications of letter resulted in Zuko's preferential treatment and all his misery]]
There are two possible ways of doing this. One is that after reading that letter Ozai began to consider that Zuko was no longer his son and therefore began to treat him like a low class child. The other is that Ozai is GenreSavvy enough to know that there's no way Ursa could have met Ikem and that she lied to him just to force him to confront her over her letters. For her disobedience and potentially scandalous words, he decides to punish her by taking all his wrath out on Zuko, treating him badly before her just so that he can give her more pain than any abuse he could inflict on her directly. He wanted to show her what he would have done had her letter been indeed true and went ahead with it being the CompleteMonster he was. Zuko's early difficulties with bending would have added fuel to Ozai's ideas. Zuko became the center of his parent's feud and the letter paved the way for all his suffering. Either of these would certainly explain Ozai's favoritism of Azula and his cruelty to Zuko. The letter basically led Ozai to disown his son and cross a new MoralEventHorizon yet again, as he has done virtually every time he gets story space.
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Iroh's bereavement gives him an excellent chance to infuriate his father into ordering Zuko's death. Later he confronts Ursa and reveals he plans to go ahead with Azulon's order to kill Zuko. He accuses her of blackmail and threatens her with Zuko's death for her attempts at creating a scandal. Or she could let Zuko live but face exile. Alternatively, he may threaten to kill her instead. However, both know that Azulon will ensure that Zuko dies either way. So Ursa is forced to come up with her plan -- by enabling Ozai to become the fire Lord, her sentence may be reduced to banishment so she goes ahead and kills Azulon. The whole plot was a XanatosGambit set up by [[MagnificentBastard Ozai so that he could become Firelord and finally be rid of her influence.]]

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Iroh's bereavement gives him an excellent chance to infuriate his father into ordering Zuko's death. Later he confronts Ursa and reveals he plans to go ahead with Azulon's order to kill Zuko. He accuses her of blackmail and threatens her with Zuko's death for her attempts at creating a scandal. Or she could let Zuko live but face exile. Alternatively, he may threaten to kill her instead. However, both know that Azulon will ensure that Zuko dies either way. So Ursa is forced to come up with her plan -- by enabling Ozai to become the fire Lord, her sentence may be reduced to banishment so she goes ahead and kills Azulon. The whole plot was a XanatosGambit set up by [[MagnificentBastard Ozai so that he could become Firelord and finally be rid of her influence.]]



This came after thinking about Zuko's dream from the Promise. It's clear that there are several forces at work plotting their own {{XanatosGambit}}s to steer the fate of the fire nation in their respective directions. In Ursa's case, when she finds out that her parents are dead and she is now all alone, she finds a way to contact her grandfather Avatar Roku for advice. In all the circumstances that follow, Avatar Roku is the ManBehindTheMan and is secretly trying to ensure that Azula does not get the throne. Feeling responsible for failing to stop Sozin, Roku, now as a spirit, advises his granddaughter Ursa into plotting to ensure that the Fire Nation does not fall into the hands of a dangerous lunatic like Azula while trying to get her to throw off her "mask" (which would be Ursa's own personal concern). This is in direct opposition to the Ozai-Azula duo's plan of trying to make Zuko's lineage null and void by declaring him an illegitimate son of Ursa.

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This came after thinking about Zuko's dream from the Promise. It's clear that there are several forces at work plotting with their own {{XanatosGambit}}s [[ThePlan plans]] to steer the fate of the fire nation Fire Nation in their respective directions. In Ursa's case, when she finds out that her parents are dead and she is now all alone, she finds a way to contact her grandfather Avatar Roku for advice. In all the circumstances that follow, Avatar Roku is the ManBehindTheMan and is secretly trying to ensure that Azula does not get the throne. Feeling responsible for failing to stop Sozin, Roku, now as a spirit, advises his granddaughter Ursa into plotting to ensure that the Fire Nation does not fall into the hands of a dangerous lunatic like Azula while trying to get her to throw off her "mask" (which would be Ursa's own personal concern). This is in direct opposition to the Ozai-Azula duo's plan of trying to make Zuko's lineage null and void by declaring him an illegitimate son of Ursa.
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They hid Ursa in their house for a while and maybe they somehow got her reunited with Ikem. Later they were interrogated by Vachir when he came to the village and that's how he found out about Forgetful Valley -- maybe he tortured them or burned their house down in the process. Hence Noren is very suspicious of anyone who comes inquiring about know about Ikem or Ursa probably thinking that the fire nation still wants to hunt them down. Azula's attitude is definitely helping his fears.

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They hid Ursa in their house for a while and maybe they somehow got her reunited with Ikem. Later they were interrogated by Vachir when he came to the village looking for Ikem and that's how he found out about Forgetful Valley -- maybe he tortured them or burned their house down in the process.process. Later on they hid Ursa in their house for a while and maybe they somehow got her reunited with Ikem. Hence Noren is very suspicious of anyone who comes inquiring about know about Ikem or Ursa probably thinking that the fire nation still wants to hunt them down. Azula's attitude is definitely helping his fears.

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