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-->-- '''Description for the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Science]][[ExcitedShowTitle !]] skill''', TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monster Hunters]] 1: Champions

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-->-- '''Description for the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Science]][[ExcitedShowTitle !]] Science!]] skill''', TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monster Hunters]] 1: Champions
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->'''Kevyn''': You're perpetuating a horrible myth, Hob. Experts in a given scientific field seldom have expertise in multiple fields. The 'Mad Scientist' or 'Tinkering Hero' archetype is patently ridiculous. I'm a physicist, specializing in wormhole dynamics. I apply gravitic tunneling to the problems of managing receiverless teleportation. That does not make me a demolitions expert.\\

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->'''Kevyn''': You're perpetuating a horrible myth, Hob. Experts in a given scientific field seldom have expertise in multiple fields. The 'Mad Scientist' 'MadScientist' or 'Tinkering Hero' archetype is patently ridiculous. I'm a physicist, specializing in wormhole dynamics. I apply gravitic tunneling to the problems of managing receiverless teleportation. That does not make me a demolitions expert.\\



-->-- ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20020118.html Jan 18, 2002]]

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-->-- ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'', [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20020118.html Jan 18, 2002]]
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-->-- '''Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}'''

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-->-- '''Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}'''
'''Website/{{Wikipedia}}'''
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-->-- '''Machinima/RedVsBlue''', ''[=S12E13=] "Catch Up, No Mustard"''

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-->-- '''Machinima/RedVsBlue''', '''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue''', ''[=S12E13=] "Catch Up, No Mustard"''
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->''You have an [[LampshadeHanging unrealistically broad]] knowledge of every scientific field. This includes Anthropology, [[ArtisticLicenseAstronomy Astronomy]], [[BioAugmentation Bioengineering]], [[BiologyTropes Biology]], [[ArtisticLicenseChemistry Chemistry]], [[GadgeteerGenius Engineer]], [[ArtisticLicenseGeology Geology]], [[MathTropes Mathematics]], [[TheBlacksmith Metallurgy]], [[WeatherAndEnvironment Meteorology]], [[TropesOfNature Naturalist]], [[ArtisticLicensePaleontology Paleontology]], [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Physics]], Physiology, [[PsychologyTropes Psychology]], and [[SociologyTropes Sociology]] – but also any other roll that requires a “scientific opinion.” [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining This doesn’t necessarily translate to practical application, however]]; e.g., you might be an expert on metal composition and layering (Metallurgy), but that doesn’t mean you can craft a sword (Smith)!''

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->''You have an [[LampshadeHanging unrealistically broad]] knowledge of every scientific field. This includes Anthropology, [[ArtisticLicenseAstronomy [[ArtisticLicenseSpace Astronomy]], [[BioAugmentation Bioengineering]], [[BiologyTropes Biology]], [[ArtisticLicenseChemistry Chemistry]], [[GadgeteerGenius Engineer]], [[ArtisticLicenseGeology Geology]], [[MathTropes Mathematics]], [[TheBlacksmith Metallurgy]], [[WeatherAndEnvironment Meteorology]], [[TropesOfNature Naturalist]], [[ArtisticLicensePaleontology Paleontology]], [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Physics]], Physiology, [[PsychologyTropes Psychology]], and [[SociologyTropes Sociology]] – but also any other roll that requires a “scientific opinion.” [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining This doesn’t necessarily translate to practical application, however]]; e.g., you might be an expert on metal composition and layering (Metallurgy), but that doesn’t mean you can craft a sword (Smith)!''
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->''You have an unrealistically broad knowledge of every scientific field. This includes Anthropology, Astronomy, Bioengineering, Biology, Chemistry, Engineer, Geology, Mathematics, Metallurgy, Meteorology, Naturalist, Paleontology, Physics, Physiology, Psychology, and Sociology – but also any other roll that requires a “scientific opinion.” This doesn’t necessarily translate to practical application, however; e.g., you might be an expert on metal composition and layering (Metallurgy), but that doesn’t mean you can craft a sword (Smith)!''

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->''You have an [[LampshadeHanging unrealistically broad broad]] knowledge of every scientific field. This includes Anthropology, Astronomy, Bioengineering, Biology, Chemistry, Engineer, Geology, Mathematics, Metallurgy, Meteorology, Naturalist, Paleontology, Physics, [[ArtisticLicenseAstronomy Astronomy]], [[BioAugmentation Bioengineering]], [[BiologyTropes Biology]], [[ArtisticLicenseChemistry Chemistry]], [[GadgeteerGenius Engineer]], [[ArtisticLicenseGeology Geology]], [[MathTropes Mathematics]], [[TheBlacksmith Metallurgy]], [[WeatherAndEnvironment Meteorology]], [[TropesOfNature Naturalist]], [[ArtisticLicensePaleontology Paleontology]], [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Physics]], Physiology, Psychology, [[PsychologyTropes Psychology]], and Sociology [[SociologyTropes Sociology]] – but also any other roll that requires a “scientific opinion.” [[SacrificedBasicSkillForAwesomeTraining This doesn’t necessarily translate to practical application, however; however]]; e.g., you might be an expert on metal composition and layering (Metallurgy), but that doesn’t mean you can craft a sword (Smith)!''
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->''You have an unrealistically broad knowledge of every scientific field. This includes Anthropology, Astronomy, Bioengineering, Biology, Chemistry, Engineer, Geology, Mathematics, Metallurgy, Meteorology, Naturalist, Paleontology, Physics, Physiology, Psychology, and Sociology – but also any other roll that requires a “scientific opinion.” This doesn’t necessarily translate to practical application, however; e.g., you might be an expert on metal composition and layering (Metallurgy), but that doesn’t mean you can craft a sword (Smith)!''
-->-- '''Description for the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Science]][[ExcitedShowTitle !]] skill''', TabletopGame/{{GURPS}} [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monster Hunters]] 1: Champions
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->'''Weezi:''' Do you honestly expect us to believe you were able to convert an electric generator into a rocket? Even if such a thing were possible, I thought you were a geologist!
->'''She-Hulk:''' That's not a problem, Weezi. He's a comic book scientist, after all. Remember, Hank Pym started out as an [[ComicBook/AntMan entomologist]] and ended up building [[ComicBook/{{Ultron}} robots]]!
-->-- ''ComicBook/TheSensationalSheHulk'' #31
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-->-- ''[[http://dmfa.katbox.net/comic/1264-even-better-is-when-the-philosophy-majors-clash/ Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures #1264]]''

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-->-- ''[[http://dmfa.katbox.net/comic/1264-even-better-is-when-the-philosophy-majors-clash/ ''[[http://www.missmab.com/Comics/Vol_1264.php Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures #1264]]''
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->''Here's another great example of ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' logic in action: if you were a science officer, you are automatically an expert on everything. Okay, I can see why she would be schooled in the science of made-up Trek physics when it comes to black holes. But she also knows everything about engineering, biology, nanotechnology, and anything else you might come up with. She even assisted the Doctor in brain surgery! How many times does Picard take over Engineering? How many times does Archer take the helm? How many times did Kirk get into a fist fight.... [[NotHelpingYourCase okay, bad example.]]''

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->''Here's another great example of ''[[Franchise/StarTrek Trek]]'' logic in action: if you were a science officer, you are automatically an expert on everything. Okay, I can see why she would be schooled in the science of made-up Trek ''Trek'' physics when it comes to black holes. But she also knows everything about engineering, biology, nanotechnology, and anything else you might come up with. She even assisted the Doctor in brain surgery! How many times does Picard take over Engineering? How many times does Archer take the helm? How many times did Kirk get into a fist fight.... fight? ... [[NotHelpingYourCase okay, Okay, bad example.]]''



->'''[[Creator/JodieWhittaker The Doctor:]]''' You're a medic, I'm the Doctor.\\

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->'''[[Creator/JodieWhittaker The Doctor:]]''' Doctor]]:''' You're a medic, I'm the Doctor.\\



->'''Bruce:''' How many [=PHDs=] does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many [=PHDs=] does Banner have? Seven.\\

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->'''Bruce:''' How many [=PHDs=] [=PhDs=] does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many [=PHDs=] [=PhDs=] does Banner have? Seven.\\



->'''Thor:''' It'll be fine! Use one of your [=PHDs=].\\

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->'''Thor:''' It'll be fine! Use one of your [=PHDs=].[=PhDs=].\\



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''[later:]''

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''[later:]''''[later]''
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->''"How many [=PHDs=] does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many [=PHDs=] does Banner have? Seven."''
-->-- '''Bruce Banner''', ''Film/ThorRagnarok''

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->''"How ->'''Bruce:''' How many [=PHDs=] does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many [=PHDs=] does Banner have? Seven."''
-->-- '''Bruce Banner''', ''Film/ThorRagnarok''
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->'''Emily:''' So then you're sure [[[https://rvb.fandom.com/wiki/Suppressor the alien rifle's]]] man made.
->'''Epsilon:''' Yeah, I'm positive. Why?
->'''Emily:''' Well, for starters, it isn't using human technology. It just fired some kind of modified plasma energy. Very deadly. And pretty!
->'''Sarge:''' Plasma?
->'''Emily:''' Alien energy source. I've seen it countless times in archaeological digs.
->'''Simmons:''' Wait, I thought you were a surgeon?
->'''Emily:''' I have an IQ of 240. [[MadScientist A prodigy can only cut people open]] so many times before she needs to find a hobby.
->'''Epsilon:''' Jesus. Couldn't try cross stitching?
->'''Emily:''' [[BlackComedy I sewed them back up, thank you very much.]]
-->-- '''Machinima/RedVsBlue''', ''[=S12E13=] "Catch Up, No Mustard"''
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->'''Thor:''' It'll be fine! Use one of your [=PHDs=].\\
'''Bruce:''' None of them are for flying ''alien spaceships!''
-->-- ''Film/ThorRagnarok''
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->'''John:''' That's over the span of 170 years. I got my biology degree at Oxford in 1840, so I'm a little behind the times. The same in other areas-- I can't keep up with the new stuff that comes along. No one can. Not even in their specialty.

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->'''John:''' That's over the span of 170 years. I got my biology degree at Oxford in 1840, so I'm a little behind the times. The same in other areas-- I areas--I can't keep up with the new stuff that comes along. No one can. Not even in their specialty.



-->--''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'', "[[http://nonadventures.com/2012/09/01/a-whole-blew-world/ A Whole BLEW World]]"

->''Movies tend to treat scientists like they treat minorities: There's at most one of them in the movie, they probably aren't ending up with the romantic lead, and they're used as a stand-in for a wide range of diverse backgrounds.''
-->--''{{Website/Cracked}}'': [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-movies-keep-getting-scientists-wrong_p2/ 5 Dumb Things Hollywood Apparently Believes About Scientists]] - ''#1. Scientists Know All Science''

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-->--''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'', -->-- ''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella'', "[[http://nonadventures.com/2012/09/01/a-whole-blew-world/ A Whole BLEW World]]"

->''Movies ->''"Movies tend to treat scientists like they treat minorities: There's at most one of them in the movie, they probably aren't ending up with the romantic lead, and they're used as a stand-in for a wide range of diverse backgrounds.''
-->--''{{Website/Cracked}}'':
"''
-->-- ''{{Website/Cracked}}'':
[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-movies-keep-getting-scientists-wrong_p2/ 5 Dumb Things Hollywood Apparently Believes About Scientists]] - ''#1. Scientists Know All Science''



->''"How many PHD's does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many PHD's does Banner have? Seven."''

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->''"How many PHD's [=PHDs=] does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many PHD's [=PHDs=] does Banner have? Seven."''
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->''How many PHD's does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many PHD's does Banner have? Seven.''

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->''How ->''"How many PHD's does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many PHD's does Banner have? Seven.''"''
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->'''Liz Shaw:''' What are you doctor of, by the way?
->'''[[Creator/JonPertwee The Doctor]]:''' Practically everything, my dear.

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->'''Liz Shaw:''' What are you doctor of, by the way?
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way?\\
'''[[Creator/JonPertwee
The Doctor]]:''' Practically everything, my dear.



->'''Intercom:''' One of them is calling himself a '[[Creator/DavidTennant Doctor]]'.
->'''Professor Yana:''' O-of medicine?
->'''Intercom:''' He says 'of everything'.

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->'''Intercom:''' One of them is calling himself a '[[Creator/DavidTennant Doctor]]'.
->'''Professor
Doctor]]'.\\
'''Professor
Yana:''' O-of medicine?
->'''Intercom:'''
medicine?\\
'''Intercom:'''
He says 'of everything'.



->'''Quell:''' So, what are [[Creator/PeterCapaldi you]] a doctor of?
->'''[[TheSnarkKnight Doctor]]:''' Now, there’s a question that’s never asked often enough. Let’s say intestinal parasites.

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->'''Quell:''' So, what are [[Creator/PeterCapaldi you]] a doctor of?
->'''[[TheSnarkKnight Doctor]]:'''
of?\\
'''The Doctor:''' [[TheSnarkKnight
Now, there’s there's a question that’s that's never asked often enough. Let’s enough]]. Let's say intestinal parasites.



'''Doctor:''' Well, medicine, science, engineering, candy floss, Lego, philosophy, music...

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'''Doctor:''' '''The Doctor:''' Well, medicine, science, engineering, candy floss, Lego, philosophy, music...medicine. Science. Engineering. Candy floss. LEGO, philosophy. Music. Problems. People. Hope. [[HopeBringer Mostly hope]].
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->'''Doctor:''' You're a medic, I'm the Doctor.\\

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->'''Doctor:''' ->'''[[Creator/JodieWhittaker The Doctor:]]''' You're a medic, I'm the Doctor.\\
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'''Doctor:''' Well, medicine. Science, engineering, candy floss, Lego, philosophy, music...

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'''Doctor:''' Well, medicine. Science, medicine, science, engineering, candy floss, Lego, philosophy, music...
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->'''Doctor:''' You're a medic, I'm the Doctor.\\
'''Medic:''' A doctor of medicine?\\
'''Doctor:''' Well, medicine. Science, engineering, candy floss, Lego, philosophy, music...
-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "The Tsuranga Conundrum"
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->''How many PHD's does [[DumbMuscle Hulk]] have? Zero. How many PHD's does Banner have? Seven.''
-->-- '''Bruce Banner''', ''Film/ThorRagnarok''
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->''"Jay Garrick says it's time to go to the Justice League with what he knows. While ComicBook/TheAtom apparently performs an autopsy on Endless Winter. '''He's a physicist'''"''

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->''"Jay Garrick says it's time to go to the Justice League with what he knows. While ComicBook/TheAtom apparently performs an autopsy on Endless Winter. '''He's a physicist'''"''physicist!'''"''
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->'''Linkara (V.O.):''' Jay Garrick says it's time to go to the Justice League with what he knows. While ComicBook/TheAtom apparently performs an autopsy on Endless Winter.
->'''Linkara:''' ''He's a '''physicist'''!''
-->-- ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'', ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice

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->'''Linkara (V.O.):''' Jay ->''"Jay Garrick says it's time to go to the Justice League with what he knows. While ComicBook/TheAtom apparently performs an autopsy on Endless Winter.
->'''Linkara:''' ''He's
Winter. '''He's a '''physicist'''!''
physicist'''"''
-->-- ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'', '''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice
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->'''Linkara (V.O.):''' Jay Garrick says it's time to go to the Justice League with what he knows. While ComicBook/TheAtom apparently performs an autopsy on Endless Winter.
->'''Linkara:''' ''He's a '''physicist'''!''
-->-- ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'', ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice



->'''JF Sargent:''' Quick question Doctor Octopus, are you physicist, or a neurologist, or a roboticist? Because you just casually described incredible breakthroughs in ''all'' of those fields. And you know what? It's not fair for me to use a super villain. Let's stick to normies, like Lucius Fox from [[Film/BatmanBegins Batman]] who not only knows how to design and build a train system but also how to run a multinational super corporation and cure fear toxin. But fine, again, I get it. We're still in superhero movies. Dr. Elizabeth Straw from [[Film/Prometheus Prometheus]] is an archeologist and astronaut, and feels comfortable performing an autopsy on an alien head. Those are three very specific skills that require a lifetime of study, and the third one isn't even a thing.

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->'''JF Sargent:''' Quick question Doctor Octopus, are you physicist, or a neurologist, or a roboticist? Because you just casually described incredible breakthroughs in ''all'' of those fields. And you know what? It's not fair for me to use a super villain. Let's stick to normies, like Lucius Fox from [[Film/BatmanBegins Batman]] who not only knows how to design and build a train system but also how to run a multinational super corporation and cure fear toxin. But fine, again, I get it. We're still in superhero movies. Dr. Elizabeth Straw from [[Film/Prometheus [[{{Film/Prometheus}} Prometheus]] is an archeologist archaeologist and astronaut, and feels comfortable performing an autopsy on an alien head. Those are three very specific skills that require a lifetime of study, and the third one isn't even a thing.

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->''"Since it is considered extremely difficult to genuinely acquire an encyclopaedic knowledge, and even more to be proficient in several fields at the level of an expert (see expertise about research in this area), not to mention to achieve excellence or recognition in multiple fields, the word polymath, in both senses, may also be used, often ironically, with a potentially negative connotation as well. Under this connotation, by sacrificing depth for breadth, the polymath becomes a 'jack of all trades, master of none'."''

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->''"Since it is considered extremely difficult to genuinely acquire an encyclopaedic knowledge, and even more to be proficient in several fields at the level of an expert (see expertise about research in this area), not to mention to achieve excellence or recognition in multiple fields, the word polymath, in both senses, may also be used, often ironically, with a potentially negative connotation as well. Under this connotation, by sacrificing depth for breadth, the polymath becomes a 'jack of all trades, master {{master of none'.none}}'."''


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->'''Quell:''' So, what are [[Creator/PeterCapaldi you]] a doctor of?
->'''[[TheSnarkKnight Doctor]]:''' Now, there’s a question that’s never asked often enough. Let’s say intestinal parasites.
-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "Mummy on the Orient Express"
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-->-- '''Dark Beast''', ''[[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Uncanny X-Men]] #334''

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-->-- '''Dark Beast''', ''[[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ''[[ComicBook/XMen Uncanny X-Men]] #334''
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->''"[[SarcasmMode I'm a biologist, but sure I can invent time travel, just give me a minute]]."''
-->-- '''Jemma Simmons''', ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''
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->'''[[ComicBook/DoctorOctopus Dr. Otto Octavius]]:''' These smart arms are controlled by my brain through a neural link. Nanowires feed directly into my cerebellum allowing me to use these arms to control fusion reaction in an environment no human hand could enter.
->'''JF Sargent:''' Quick question Doctor Octopus, are you physicist, or a neurologist, or a roboticist? Because you just casually described incredible breakthroughs in ''all'' of those fields. And you know what? It's not fair for me to use a super villain. Let's stick to normies, like Lucius Fox from [[Film/BatmanBegins Batman]] who not only knows how to design and build a train system but also how to run a multinational super corporation and cure fear toxin. But fine, again, I get it. We're still in superhero movies. Dr. Elizabeth Straw from [[Film/Prometheus Prometheus]] is an archeologist and astronaut, and feels comfortable performing an autopsy on an alien head. Those are three very specific skills that require a lifetime of study, and the third one isn't even a thing.
-->-- ''{{Website/Cracked}}'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0oOkggVI5E 5 Things Hollywood Gets Wrong About Smart People]]
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-->-- '''Professor Ludwig Von Drake''', ''{{Walt Disney}}'s Wonderful World of Color''

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-->-- '''Professor Ludwig Von Drake''', ''{{Walt ''Creator/{{Walt Disney}}'s Wonderful World of Color''
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->Movies tend to treat scientists like they treat minorities: There's at most one of them in the movie, they probably aren't ending up with the romantic lead, and they're used as a stand-in for a wide range of diverse backgrounds.
-->--''{{Website/Cracked}}'': [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-movies-keep-getting-scientists-wrong_p2/ 5 Dumb Things Hollywood Apparently Believes About Scientists]]

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->Movies ->''Movies tend to treat scientists like they treat minorities: There's at most one of them in the movie, they probably aren't ending up with the romantic lead, and they're used as a stand-in for a wide range of diverse backgrounds.
backgrounds.''
-->--''{{Website/Cracked}}'': [[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-movies-keep-getting-scientists-wrong_p2/ 5 Dumb Things Hollywood Apparently Believes About Scientists]]
Scientists]] - ''#1. Scientists Know All Science''

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