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** [[HollywoodAtheist Bob]] meets God and explains to Him that He doesn't exist. [[LogicBomb God agrees]].
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** [[HollywoodAtheist Bob]] meets God and explains to Him that He doesn't exist. [[MindScrew God]] [[LogicBomb God agrees]].
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that his natural reaction to anything that would make him believe is to undergo SanitySlippage as his mind [[LogicBomb Logic Bombs]] itself into oblivion.
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that his natural reaction to anything that would make him believe is to undergo SanitySlippage as his mind [[LogicBomb Logic Bombs]] {{Logic Bomb}}s itself into oblivion.
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** Bob thinks God is a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose technology [[ClarkesThirdLaw only seems godlike]].
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** Bob thinks God is just a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose with technology that [[ClarkesThirdLaw only seems appears to be godlike]].
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** Bob is a ludicrously vapid conspiracy theorist in a world where people don't know much (or have even heard of) the things he says.
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** Bob believes that God is actually a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose technology [[ClarkesThirdLaw only seems godlike]].
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** Bob believes that thinks God is actually a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose technology [[ClarkesThirdLaw only seems godlike]].
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** Bob exists in a universe with SufficientlyAdvancedAliens. While God exists, Bob just assumes [[ClarkesThirdLaw He's an alien with technology that seems godly.]]
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** Bob exists in a universe with SufficientlyAdvancedAliens. While believes that God exists, Bob just assumes is actually a SufficientlyAdvancedAlien whose technology [[ClarkesThirdLaw He's an alien with technology that only seems godly.]]godlike]].
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** Bob uses the exact same tactics religious organizations perform to try to spread his message of atheism, [[KnockingOnHeathensDoor such as going door to door handing out pamphlets and annoying people with lectures]]. [[TheHorseshoeEffect In the end, he is absolutely lacking in differences with the people he claims to hate]].
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** Bob uses the exact same tactics religious organizations perform to try to spread his message of atheism, [[KnockingOnHeathensDoor such as going door to door handing out pamphlets and annoying swarming people with lectures]]. lectures]] on how the local faith-fueled phenomena is PsychicPowers and collective delusion. [[TheHorseshoeEffect In the end, he He is absolutely lacking in differences with the people he claims to hate]].hate]], and is equally annoying to the common man.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob refuses to believe in God,... despite God being his next door neighbor... and the coach for the local little league baseball team... which Bob's son plays for. The rest of the neighborhood think Bob is a little weird, needless to say.
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** Bob refuses to believe in God,... despite God being his next door neighbor... and the coach for the local little league baseball team... which Bob's son plays for. The rest of the neighborhood think Bob is a little weird, needless tosay.say.
** Bob uses the exact same tactics religious organizations perform to try to spread his message of atheism, [[KnockingOnHeathensDoor such as going door to door handing out pamphlets and annoying people with lectures]]. [[TheHorseshoeEffect In the end, he is absolutely lacking in differences with the people he claims to hate]].
** Bob refuses to believe in God,... despite God being his next door neighbor... and the coach for the local little league baseball team... which Bob's son plays for. The rest of the neighborhood think Bob is a little weird, needless to
** Bob uses the exact same tactics religious organizations perform to try to spread his message of atheism, [[KnockingOnHeathensDoor such as going door to door handing out pamphlets and annoying people with lectures]]. [[TheHorseshoeEffect In the end, he is absolutely lacking in differences with the people he claims to hate]].
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that he is directly responsible for the local demonic invasion - if you need to ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve to prevent it from happening, guess what happens when someone doesn't does either?
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* '''Defied''': Bob is smart enough to recognize the existence of a higher power when the evidence is overwhelming, [[NayTheist even if it's begrudgingly so]].
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Bob is smart enough to recognize the existence of a higher power when the evidence is overwhelming, [[NayTheist even if it's begrudginglyso]].so]].
** Bob decides to apply Pascal's Wager - if he cannot find empirical evidence of the existence of capital-G God that's a bummer, but on the off chance that He and everything associated with Him (especially Heaven and Hell) exist, Bob is not going to walk around looking like a sacrilegious jerk.
** Bob is smart enough to recognize the existence of a higher power when the evidence is overwhelming, [[NayTheist even if it's begrudgingly
** Bob decides to apply Pascal's Wager - if he cannot find empirical evidence of the existence of capital-G God that's a bummer, but on the off chance that He and everything associated with Him (especially Heaven and Hell) exist, Bob is not going to walk around looking like a sacrilegious jerk.
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** Bob is a big skeptic, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that deities are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob is a big skeptic, skeptic for many other things (especially because of seeing [[ScoobyDooHoax how far people can go for the sake of scare tactics]]) but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that deities are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob is a big skeptic, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob is a big skeptic, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they deities are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob is skeptical of deities, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob is skeptical of deities, a big skeptic, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob officially doesn't believes in deities, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob officially doesn't believes in is skeptical of deities, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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** Bob officially doesn't believes in deities, but he nevertheless is very religious on the off chance that they are real and he doesn't wants to end in Hell ([[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pascal-wager/ Pascal's Wager]]).
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* '''Subverted''': Bob's atheism begins to weaken after several incidences of direct divine intervention.
* '''Double Subverted''': However, Bob is still a pretty stubborn guy and refuses to give in.
* '''Double Subverted''': However, Bob is still a pretty stubborn guy and refuses to give in.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob's atheism begins to weaken after several incidences of direct divine intervention.
** Bob is ''right'' to be skeptical. The "gods" are just a HigherTechSpecies. Not even SufficientlyAdvancedAliens, they use advanced but comprehensible technology and a lot of smoke and mirrors to seem bigger than they are.
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** However, Bob is still a pretty stubborn guy and refuses to givein.in.
** A particular god or set of gods proves to be smoke and mirrors, but when Bob makes the same guess about another, he's demonstrably wrong.
** Bob's atheism begins to weaken after several incidences of direct divine intervention.
** Bob is ''right'' to be skeptical. The "gods" are just a HigherTechSpecies. Not even SufficientlyAdvancedAliens, they use advanced but comprehensible technology and a lot of smoke and mirrors to seem bigger than they are.
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** However, Bob is still a pretty stubborn guy and refuses to give
** A particular god or set of gods proves to be smoke and mirrors, but when Bob makes the same guess about another, he's demonstrably wrong.
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'''Basic Trope''': In a world where it is proven on many levels that gods exist and personally created the cosmos, a couple people will flat-out disbelieve these facts.
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'''Basic Trope''': In a world where it is proven on many levels that gods exist and personally created the cosmos, fantastical elements exist, a couple people will flat-out disbelieve these facts.
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** Bob acknowledges the gods but theorizes that they are vastly exaggerating their abilities and role in the creation given incongruities of their 'designs' making the old stories they testify to not quite add up.
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** God himself doesn't believe in God!
** Bob's disbelief is so powerful that it creates an AntiMagic field, which obviously loops into making his disbelief even stronger.
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
** Bob's disbelief is so powerful that it creates an AntiMagic field, which obviously loops into making his disbelief even stronger.
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's faith in God changes wildly depending on the situations he's in.
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** Bob's disbelief is so powerful that it creates an AntiMagic field, which obviously loops into making his disbelief even stronger.
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
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** Bob's faith in God changes wildly depending on the situations he'sin.in.
** Bob doesn't believe in God, [[ArbitrarySkepticism but believes in other gods]] (like the ones in Classical Mythology) or even the devil.
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
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** Bob's faith in God changes wildly depending on the situations he's
** Bob doesn't believe in God, [[ArbitrarySkepticism but believes in other gods]] (like the ones in Classical Mythology) or even the devil.
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that he develops a murderous BerserkButton for people who try to convince him otherwise.
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that he develops a murderous BerserkButton for people who try to convince him otherwise. [[KillTheGod And not even deities are safe]].
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** Bob's disbelief is so powerful that it creates an AntiMagic field, which obviously loops into making his disbelief even stronger.
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
** Bob's '''dis'''belief in God is so strong that, in a situation where God [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly needs someone to believe in Him]], He ''still'' gathers power from it. [[MST3KMantra It's probably best not to try]] [[MindScrew to understand]] [[BellisariosMaxim how that works]].
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** Bob believes in God even when its been logically proven God can't exist.
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** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that he develops a murderous BerserkButton for people who try to convince him otherwise.
** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that his natural reaction to anything that would make him believe is to undergo SanitySlippage as his mind [[LogicBomb Logic Bombs]] itself into oblivion.
** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that he develops a murderous BerserkButton for people who try to convince him otherwise.
** Bob is so staunch to refuse to believe that his natural reaction to anything that would make him believe is to undergo SanitySlippage as his mind [[LogicBomb Logic Bombs]] itself into oblivion.
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** Bob believes that the gods are merely sufficiently powerful beings and believes it is possible to ascend to be one eventually. He does eventually gain enough power to do so - and with his newfound omniscience comes to realize that the gods did indeed exist from the beginning of the universe. He sees them as distinct and having some special significance. Until he meddles with time travel enough to retroactively add himself to the beginning of existence.
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If Bob wants to prove these being are not divine then he's not being objective then, is he?
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's fierce disbelief in the supernatural gets shattered when he realizes that he's had a direct, verifiable encounter with the divine.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...However, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them to be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or "divine" at all.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...However, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them to be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or "divine" at all.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's fierce disbelief in the supernatural gets shattered when he realizes that he's had a direct, verifiable encounter with the divine.
divine. He struggles to reconcile this irrefutable fact with his worldview.
*'''Reconstructed''': ...However, '''Reconstructed''': Bob then encounters the divine in an undeniable fashion and ''still'' refuses to believe they are divine, but rather just sufficiently advanced aliens or something. Instead of denying that they exist, he dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them to be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or "divine" at all.he can prove it.
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** NayTheist
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** NayTheistBob is a NayTheist who doesn't understand why people worship a being just because it's supernatural and powerful.
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic, but there's no {{In-Universe}} evidence of God's existence, leaving his choice the rational one.
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic, but there's no {{In-Universe}} InUniverse evidence of God's existence, leaving his choice the rational one.
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** While Bob has seen {{Physical God}}s and believes them; he insists there is are scientific explanations for their power.
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** While Bob has seen {{Physical God}}s and believes them; in them, he insists there is are scientific explanations for their power.
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** Bob is [[{{Muggle}} incapable of recognizing]] [[InvisibleToNormals a divine presence]]
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** Bob is [[{{Muggle}} incapable of recognizing]] [[InvisibleToNormals a divine presence]]presence]].
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** Bob believes in God even when its been logically proven by all scientists that God can't exist.
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** Bob believes in God even when its been logically proven by all scientists that God can't exist.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them to be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or "divine" at all.
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, However, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them to be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or "divine" at all.
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'''{{God}}''': "[[GodIsGood No problem, Bob!]]"
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'''{{God}}''': "[[GodIsGood No problem, Bob!]]"It's alright, Bob.]] I don't believe in you either."
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** Bob goes bowling with God every Friday while angels fly about mages operate the bowling alley and God performs physical defying bowling feats. Bob insists he's a simply a talented stage magician.
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** Bob goes bowling with God every Friday while angels fly about about, mages operate the bowling alley alley, and God performs physical defying physics-defying bowling feats. Bob insists he's a simply a talented stage magician.
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** God himself doesn't believe in god!
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** God himself doesn't believe in god!God!
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** Bob's belief system allows for the possibility of phenomena which current scientific research cannot yet explain -- however, he believes that a sufficient amount of scientific research will eventually uncover the solution, and is unwilling to accept an 'unsatisfactory' answer like the character with power being a God.
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** Bob's belief system allows for the possibility of phenomena which current scientific research cannot yet explain -- however, he believes that a sufficient amount of scientific research will eventually uncover the solution, and is unwilling to accept an 'unsatisfactory' answer like the character with power being a God.god.
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** Bob is a HollywoodAtheist activist/philosopher/author/professor/political leader, or any other job where he might lose respect with his colleagues or be fired if he believes in God.
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** Bob is a HollywoodAtheist activist/philosopher/author/professor/political leader, or any other job where he might lose respect with his colleagues or be fired if he believes admits a belief in God.this specific god.
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** God [[HeroicSelfDeprecation doesn't believe in himself]].
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** God [[HeroicSelfDeprecation doesn't believe in himself]].Himself]].
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic where he would accept God's existence once revealed.
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic where he would accept agnostic, but there's no {{In-Universe}} evidence of God's existence once revealed.existence, leaving his choice the rational one.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob knows that Gods actually exist but thinks of them as nothing more than [[JerkassGods spoiled arrogant assholes]] and refuses to acknowledge or worship them.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob knows Bob's fierce disbelief in the supernatural gets shattered when he realizes that Gods actually exist but thinks of he's had a direct, verifiable encounter with the divine.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for themas nothing more than [[JerkassGods spoiled arrogant assholes]] and refuses to acknowledge be [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic so well-understood]] by the world that they're no longer considered mysterious, otherworldly, or worship them."divine" at all.
* '''Reconstructed''': ...however, Bob then dedicates his life to studying these beings in an objective a way as possible, intending for them
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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob knows that Gods actually exist but thinks of them as nothing more than [[JerkassGods spoiled arrogant assholes]] and refuses to acknowledge or worship them.
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic where there is no definitive proof of God's existence.
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** Or he's an atheist or agnostic where there is no definitive proof of he would accept God's existence.existence once revealed.